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Wrong.He is miles better than Dalot.
Wrong.He is miles better than Dalot.
Imagine having eyes and building such an opinion.He is a good player who struggled a season where everyone struggled. Not surprised he has come back playing his way back into the team, but I assumed he wasn't given a fair chance. Hopefully he'll continue like this because we've missed him. He is miles better than Dalot.
He is a good player who struggled a season where everyone struggled. Not surprised he has come back playing his way back into the team, but I assumed he wasn't given a fair chance. Hopefully he'll continue like this because we've missed him. He is miles better than Dalot.
Hmm. I haven't seen levels from Dalot that have impressed me. In a vacuum sure, he hit some form and stability which is an improvement from previous seasons, but not a huge fan of his abilities. AWB has proved far more in terms of value to the team, be it in terms of game saving blocks and recovery runs and his tremendous consistency.Nah, that’s completely wrong.
They’re very different players but Dalot has hit levels this season that we haven’t ever seen from AWB.
Good to have some competition for places though. I wouldn’t be getting rid of him just yet.
And getting under hit passes from Lindelof when the opposition were on him before he had even controlled the ball.You can see the weaknesses clear as day (positional, aerial, passing), but for what he can do, he’s been very good these past two games. He’s at his best when he’s comfortable dribbling out of pressure because he’s actually decent taking players on. It’s also notable how much better he looks when he can lay it off to Varane, Eriksen, Casemiro etc instead of McTominay, Maguire, an injured Rashford.
Hmm. I haven't seen levels from Dalot that have impressed me. In a vacuum sure, he hit some form and stability which is an improvement from previous seasons, but not a huge fan of his abilities. AWB has proved far more in terms of value to the team, be it in terms of game saving blocks and recovery runs and his tremendous consistency.
Dalot has 1 assist in 13 games this season. The season we got second place, AWB missed only 4 games, bagging 2 goals and having 4 assists.
He played a few games with the likes of Pereira, Mata and Lingard on his side. He lost form and motivation last season and didn't look good at all but this "not a footballer in a million years" is as predictable as it is hyperbole. He has made it as a footballer, and those who haven't gets bitter. I guess a lot of people just never liked him, and I don't get that. He has a presence when he plays, good in the press, aggressive, quick feet, great agility and body control. Tackles, passes, runs, crosses. Great determination. He usually gets the ball out wide and manages to keep the ball in play, which is not always an easy thing to do but really important if you want to keep possession. He gets himself and others out of tricky situations using his agility, body faints and speed to make a bit of room for himself.
Exactly. That will make any player look bad tbf.And getting under hit passes from Lindelof when the opposition were on him before he had even controlled the ball.
Do you watch entire games or just highlight clips? There's countless of evidence of him passing well combining in attack, he is better in than aspect that Dalot. Dalot has stronger semi long passes, but it's not like AWB can't hit them at all. If you reduce him only to his athleticism that's you doing that, he is a lot more to me and two seasons ago he was the age Dalot is now, and I much prefer that season to the one Dalot is having this year.“Tackles, passes, runs, crosses”
Are you just naming what a fullback is supposed to do? AWB is clearly poor on the ball in possession, especially when pressed. He’s a terrible forward passer and clearly doesn’t trust himself in that sense.
He clearly is a good tackler and is athletic as a 1v1 defende. He even can put in some nice crosses. But preferring him to Dalot given Dalot’s performances this year (don’t cite assists, we don’t ask our fullbacks to cross as much) and in the WC is just strange unless you are just a life long AWB fan
Dalot has been an integral part of our buildup. People aren't making it up. One of the major differences is how their possessions come about. Dalot is actively entrusted with ballcarrying responsibilities in the first two thirds and his hyperactive overlap is why Antony always seems to have space despite everyone knowing he wants to use his left. This matters against tougher teams. Against the likes of Forest a Malacia and AWB fullback pairing are enough but it makes a huge difference when there's an actual midfield battle.I'll trust ETH's judgment here but AWB still has someway to go displacing anyone.As further posts allude, you are pretty much alone with those thoughts.
I do however agree with you, I also think he is a much better right back than Dalot. Someone I see said about levels and not reached the levels Dalot has this season, what? Dalot has done well but people are making out as if he is being world class or something.
I think the problem with AWB wasnt just his performance levels, his tactial nouse, positioning and decision making....the main things he has needed to improve on....regressed a lot last year, when the year before there were signs of them improving and it was obvious Rangnick really didnt rate him and it appears at the moment Dalot is rated by ETH.
I still rate him, my main gripe is from his body language and expressions, kind of looks like he isnt mentally switched on and sharp to the game and wonder if that may have soemthign to do with him not progressing?
I feel with the investment and lack of progression and Dalot takin ghs chance that Dalot if he continues has nailed the number one spot from Bissaka, still think tahats wrong....however I do now think neither of them are the right first choice for us as there are some real quality young right backs out there, so I still see Dalot beinng a number two
When Dalot was not playing and we wanted to get rid, AC Milan was interested. When AWB is not playing, only Crystal Palce is interested. There is a reason
Dalot is injured, money or no money, someone had to play RBHe was decent today but to say I'm worried by this is an understatement, there is obviously no money for a new right back and I really do not think ETH would play him if there was an option of signing someone.
So we're stuck with him and for the style of football we try to play he will not be the solution, let's all hope someone likes him enough to take him off our hands with a semi decent bid.
I agree with this completely, AWB is currently back up to Dalot and will be all season. What he has shown however is that he is a competent back up which allows for rest and rotation for Dalot. It also adds a little to AWBs value if we decide to offload him in the summer. I think £15m is on the low side for an established premier league player, we should be looking £20-25 but given how bad we are at transfers and our ridiculous wages £15m is probably more realistic.When Dalot was not playing and we wanted to get rid, AC Milan was interested. When AWB is not playing, only Crystal Palce is interested. There is a reason and I still find baffling that some people say he is miles better than Dalot, while Dalot has been preferred even over Cancelo.
Good performance yesterday, and AWB has his potential, but his potential is the one of 15 million at max. He is not a top 10 full back in the pl. He is going to have a nice career in the PL but nothing spectacular.
Yes thank you. I thought I was the only one seeing it!And getting under hit passes from Lindelof when the opposition were on him before he had even controlled the ball.
ETH seems to have his way to handle player that he feels are out of form, not performing,or just not yet suiting system.
First of all, he won't criticize them in public or directly to the press, he often just mention that the player is ,for example not ready to play yet, or have a smaller injurie or "in worst case2 that the player is on a on a personal training schedule to faster get to know the system he wants the team to play and he is often "blaming" the system because it requires a lot of the players, often mentioning that it requires much more from the players, but when it comes to be 100% disciplined when defending, that all 10 players have direction how to act when to defending and that the offensive part is more disciplined for GK, back four and the deep playing CMs (Casemiro and Eriksen mostly) because he said it's impossible to know what will happen in the final part of the offense so those 4 upfront play with almost no clear directives more then were their position should be when we are starting the attack from the back.
I believe this way of handling the press and not calling out players without them having misbehaved completely idiotically (read Cristiano), is a great way to build up a trust between the staff and the players is great and we can finally focus on playing football and the behave like reality show or Gossip Girl TV-show. .
Also this way doesn't put more pressure on the player then necessary, like Sancho right now, that is according to many medias on "a special" program like both Dalot, Rashford, Varane, Martial and even Casemiro the first weeks when he joined and didn't play much. All of these players have turned out to be key players for the team and Varane, Dalot, Casemiro and Rashford playing on the highest level together with some others. Not saying he made Casemiro or Varane this good, they have been among the best players in their position for years. But how he has helped Rashford, Martial, Bruno, Eriksen and even De Gea to play on the top of their game and turned Dalot to one of the best RBs in the world and helped Garnacho take 10 steps in the right directions is impressive, I believe that when Sancho is back and ready to play RW that Antony might be the next one to get his to get some speciell extra training to fit in to the team even better.
Sorry for this long text but hopefully someone gets my point or disagrees so we can discuss the subject (someone could be even kinder and gift med a late Christmas gift i you find the post worth a "LIKE" and make me full member since i have 9 and 10 is needed,)!
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