[2 man midfield]

He’s not even the worst right back we’ve signed.

Go on?

 

[acnumber9]

Go on?

One of them is in the squad currently. Then there’s Darmian.

 

[Adisa]

I repeat, a worse signing than Maguire and whoever signed off £50m for this guy, should not be anywhere near this club.

 

[Kaushal]

Good. Below mediocre player signed by a below mediocre manager for £50m. Next Mctominay and possibly dalot. Footballers who have no business playing football for a team fighting for top 4 let alone challenging for titles.

 

[2 man midfield]

One of them is in the squad currently. Then there’s Darmian.

Dalot is not a worse footballer than Wan Bissaka, not by a country mile. I won’t deny that he isn’t very good though.

Darmian was a nothing player here, but was technically decent and has proven to be a good player by doing great for Inter. Think he even scored at the weekend. He also only cost us 12m. Wan Bissaka cost 50.50!

 

[ti vu]

It sums up everything wrong with this club: there hasn’t been a plan.

We have been messing about ever since SAF left. If we had the right people upstairs with a proper plan then we would have been in a better position as a club than we are now.

There was actually a plan back then, not vision though. Establishing younger British core.

 

[BluesJr]

I will be very happy when he is sold.

 

[2 man midfield]

There was actually a plan back then, not vision though. Establishing younger British core

Which is fine as a plan in of itself, Sir Alex always used to build around the best English players at the time. Rio, Rooney, I have no doubt he’d have signed Harry Kane years ago.

The problem is all the current best English players already play for City and Liverpool, making up their British core. We were left with the scraps, and should’ve looked elsewhere.

 

[Zoo]

I still like Wan Bissaka but if we can get a decent fee for him it would be best to move him on.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

AWB is pretty incredible (at his best) at defending one on one. He has an unique ability in this regard which makes him a potentially excellent back to the walls defensive fullback.

But he's simply too poor on the ball for a club with big aspirations. So while Dalot himself is poor, he's more suitable to a front foot team.

 

[ZupZup]

For me, Wan Bissaka is not good enough… but Dalot should be shown the door before him.

Both awful going forwards but at least one of them can defend. I don’t know what people are seeing when they watch Dalot play… he doesn’t do anything well.

 

[mu4c_20le]

Can only assume he has more transfer value than Dalot

 

[ti vu]

For me, Wan Bissaka is not good enough… but Dalot should be shown the door before him.

Both awful going forwards but at least one of them can defend. I don’t know what people are seeing when they watch Dalot play… he doesn’t do anything well.

If the report is true, these people including the coaches and directors at the club.

 

[bosnian_red]

For me, Wan Bissaka is not good enough… but Dalot should be shown the door before him.

Both awful going forwards but at least one of them can defend. I don’t know what people are seeing when they watch Dalot play… he doesn’t do anything well.

He's pretty decent at most things on the ball apart from his crossing. But his passing out from the back and moving with the ball is a million times better than AWB, and he plays with more intensity generally which means he's probably a lot more coachable to improve. Makes more sense having him as a 2nd right back than AWB, but we need to buy a starter.

 

[didz]

I will be very happy when he is sold.

I imagine you'll be waiting a long time. This has got 'subsidised loan back to Palace' written all over it.

 

[Remember the geese]

He's been much better for us than Dalot, but still not good enough. Perhaps ten Hag believes that the latter has more room to improve and a higher technical level to fall back on.

 

[USREDEVIL]

too many jogs back recently. not sure what's up with this guy but i think we should move on.
otherwise likeable "bloke" though

 

[Adisa]

Bias is why people cant see why Dalot has been chosen over AWB.
If you watch both players, it should be obvious why ETH would chose Dalot. I am not saying Dalot is a top player but he has more tools for an attacking, high energy, high pressing team.
It's not even debatable.

 

[ZupZup]

If the report is true, these people including the coaches and directors at the club.

Rangnick and his coaching team? Who have been a roaring success.

 

[ti vu]

Rangnick and his coaching team? Who have been a roaring success.

RR is leaving the interim coaching role... Backward logic doesn't work here.

 

[ZupZup]

Bias is why people cant see why Dalot has been chosen over AWB.

Bias? I think AWB is rubbish. I just think Dalot is worse.

I think people are more biased the other way because they are desperate for someone to be better than AWB… and I can half understand that because he’s bad.

 

[ZupZup]

RR is leaving the interim coaching role... Backward logic doesn't work here.

You’re the one who pulled the “coach” card… I could spend all day giving you examples of coaches misjudging players and favouring inferior players over others. Plenty that you would agree with too.

 

[Isotope]

I repeat, a worse signing than Maguire and whoever signed off £50m for this guy, should not be anywhere near this club.

Earning too much money can sink most of young men. Then he has worked under two bad managers who hardly improve players.

Such a shame. I believe that under SAF, he'd turn into a very good RB, and might be as good as Brown when played as RB. Hard-tackling no nonsense RB who can contribute offensively.

 

[Redlyn]

Bias? I think AWB is rubbish. I just think Dalot is worse.

I think people are more biased the other way because they are desperate for someone to be better than AWB… and I can half understand that because he’s bad.

I think it's because Dalot carries the ball like a footballer while AWB plays like a donkey. Both equally ineffective but at least one looks the part.

 

[ti vu]

You’re the one who pulled the “coach” card… I could spend all day giving you examples of coaches misjudging players and favouring inferior players over others. Plenty that you would agree with too.

Please put your word where your mouth is. Let's see whether you can give enough example for the whole day.

The rumor has it that ETH who demanded a say in our transfer, agreed with AWB potential departure. Big bad RR leaving his coaching role soon. He's not deciding stuff going forward. Noone buying that excuse

 

[Adisa]

Bias? I think AWB is rubbish. I just think Dalot is worse.

I think people are more biased the other way because they are desperate for someone to be better than AWB… and I can half understand that because he’s bad.

If you're Ten Hag, AWB is a worse RB than Dalot. Different styles of play have different demands on players/positions and fullback is one of the most prominent examples of this.
The areas where Dalot is a better player (first touch, intensity, running the channels, playing balls over the top) happen to be more important to ETH than Ole for example.
We need a better fullback than Dalot but it is not rocket science why a coach like ETH would choose him over Bissaka.

 

[ZupZup]

Please put your word where your mouth is. Let's see whether you can give enough example for the whole day.

The rumor has it that ETH who demanded a say in our transfer, agreed with AWB potential departure. Big bad RR leaving his coaching role soon. He's not deciding stuff going forward. Noone buying that excuse

I barely have a clue what are you are talking about… you said Dalot must be better because coaches and directors think so?

Which ignores the fact that previous coaches preferred AWB… and also they signed him for £50m… which was a mistake but clearly shows that coaches etc. are not always right.

Or are you trying to say that Ten Hag couldn’t ever be wrong in preferring one player over another? In which case I look forwards to every signing of his working out and being brilliant. I don’t think that’s ever happened for another manager before. For all we know, Ten Hag doesn’t think Dalot is any good either… one can only hope.

 

[2 man midfield]

Bias is why people cant see why Dalot has been chosen over AWB.
If you watch both players, it should be obvious why ETH would chose Dalot. I am not saying Dalot is a top player but he has more tools for an attacking, high energy, high pressing team.
It's not even debatable.

I agree and I don’t see why people are ignoring this. I’m not even saying Wan Bissaka is totally useless, he’s got his skill set and he’ll find his level. He’d be perfect for a side like Burnley who aren’t going to dominate the ball, where he can sit back and just focus on his 1 v 1 battle. Where that’s concerned he’s better than Dalot. But as a pure footballer, or someone for how we want to play? He’s about as unsuitable as it gets.

 

[ti vu]

I barely have a clue what are you are talking about… you said Dalot must be better because coaches and directors think so?

Which ignores the fact that previous coaches preferred AWB… and also they signed him for £50m… which was a mistake but clearly shows that coaches etc. are not always right.

Or are you trying to say that Ten Hag couldn’t ever be wrong in preferring one player over another? In which case I look forwards to every signing of his working out and being brilliant. I don’t think that’s ever happened for another manager before. For all we know, Ten Hag doesn’t think Dalot is any good either… one can only hope.

Bolded part is your own biased projection. Please quote where I even mentioned Dalot, let alone "much better".

Anyone can be wrong on thing, noone said otherwise. The issue with your post is the condescending know it all attitude questioning everyone. Those who involved in paying 50mil looks like one the way out. And when they were still here, they were trying to sign Trippier. It's not like they're even blind to their own mistake.

 

[JB7]

Dalot is not a worse footballer than Wan Bissaka, not by a country mile. I won’t deny that he isn’t very good though.

Oh he is. The way I look at it is there is at least one thing anyone can look at AWB and go "he's good at that". By contrast with Dalot there is nothing at all. He looks more comfortable on the ball, he doesn't actually use it better though.

 

[V.O.]

Oh he is. The way I look at it is there is at least one thing anyone can look at AWB and go "he's good at that". By contrast with Dalot there is nothing at all. He looks more comfortable on the ball, he doesn't actually use it better though.

All that means is that Wan Bissaka is better at slide tackles and worse at basically everything else. Dalot is the better (least shit) footballer.

 

[ZupZup]

Anyone can be wrong on thing, noone said otherwise. The issue with your post is the condescending know it all attitude questioning everyone. Those who involved in paying 50mil looks like one the way out. And when they were still here, they were trying to sign Trippier. It's not like they're even blind to their own mistake.

I have said many times I don’t think AWB is any good… we need a new right back.

It’s a forum and I can voice my opinion. For you to get all defensive, maybe I touched a nerve when I said Dalot was rubbish because you actually rate him. Which is fine, you’d be entitled to your own opinion too. I wouldn’t be arsed.

 

[Giggsyking]

AWB is pretty incredible (at his best) at defending one on one. He has an unique ability in this regard which makes him a potentially excellent back to the walls defensive fullback.

But he's simply too poor on the ball for a club with big aspirations. So while Dalot himself is poor, he's more suitable to a front foot team.

How is Dalot better to a front foot team? he is atrocious in every aspect in his game, bad in both defence and offence. I hope he is not our first team player and we are planning to sign someone in that position and Dalot is only staying because he is cheap in wages and Bisaka is going because he still has some resale value.

 

[acnumber9]

Dalot is not a worse footballer than Wan Bissaka, not by a country mile. I won’t deny that he isn’t very good though.

Darmian was a nothing player here, but was technically decent and has proven to be a good player by doing great for Inter. Think he even scored at the weekend. He also only cost us 12m. Wan Bissaka cost 50.50!

He’s a worse right back in just about every way.

Lukaku was great for Inter. Not sure there’s a lot to be read into that.

 

[kps88]

I feel a bit sorry for him. Clearly wasn't ready for the step up. He should have been a squad player with a senior RB ahead of him. Instead we had to play him non stop in every game because there were no other options.

 

[Red00012]

I don’t understand how people think Dalot is worse . Granted he’s not much better but there is more potential and development in Dalot . Wan Bissaka has got worse since his 1st season and is one of the most awkward fullbacks I’ve seen in the opposition half.

 

[acnumber9]

Can only assume he has more transfer value than Dalot

I think this is the main reason. We couldn’t give Dalot away.

 

[Reditus]

I had high hopes. Maybe I’m alone? Thought he looked very good his first season certainly defensively and his tackling was best in the league. 2nd season I thought there was some early signs his touch and control were moving in the right direction. But somewhere along the line he regressed and then this season he looks a significantly worse player than the one we saw in his debut season. Might be a confidence issue. Dunno, but probably the right decision to move on and I will be hoping he is able to find some form again. Seems a nice chap

 

[Long Time Red]

Judging by the way we've tried to move players on previously, I'll be very surprised if we manage to get rid of him as I can't see who would want to pay more than £20m for a right back and I can't see the club accepting £20m.

 

[Cloud7]

This is a good sign that ETH has no time for technically deficient players in his team. AWB should not have ever been signed. He is not a player who has a place at a top club. I never saw anything in him that looked like the makings of a top RB.