Nymeria is in the Riverlands leading a large pack of wolves. She was also the one who pulls Catelyn out of the river after the Red Wedding.Watched the start of season 1 on TV again the other night. Whatever happened to Nymeria Arya's direwolf? I vaguely remember reading her having dreams/out of body experiences as the wolf going on killing sprees in the woods somewhere, but don't remember any of this ever happening in the TV series. It now seems like the direwolves have mostly written out of the series, which is a shame as I was hoping they'd end up playing a prominent role towards the end of the books/story for the series.
But I guess that's because I'm hoping the Starks reunite and are actually the good guys who win in the end, which won't happen with GRR Martin.
From the filming locations for the next season, it looks like the Tower of Joy might make an appearance.
That would all but confirm R+L=JThe casting calls also had something about a great swordsman as well, which further validates the possible Tower of Joy scene since Arthur Dayne could be making an appearance.
Imagine if they started Season 6 with that scene, Lyanna saying, "Promise me." as she hands baby Jon to Ned, and then the screen fades into Jon lying dead in the show. Could potentially be a good way to start the season.
That would all but confirm R+L=J
Yes it is all but confirmed and I also think R+L=J is true. But there are some problems with the theory. My biggest one is the necessity of the fight at the Tower of Joy. I mean if Lyanna was at Tower of Joy, the Kingsguard there could have easily allowed Ned to meet her. They have no reason to not allow Ned meet his sister.It's basically all but confirmed anyway.
Yes it is all but confirmed and I also think R+L=J is true. But there are some problems with the theory. My biggest one is the necessity of the fight at the Tower of Joy. I mean if Lyanna was at Tower of Joy, the Kingsguard there could have easily allowed Ned to meet her. They have no reason to not allow Ned meet his sister.
And I also don't want it to be confirmed in the show before it gets confirmed in the books.
Yes it is all but confirmed and I also think R+L=J is true. But there are some problems with the theory. My biggest one is the necessity of the fight at the Tower of Joy. I mean if Lyanna was at Tower of Joy, the Kingsguard there could have easily allowed Ned to meet her. They have no reason to not allow Ned meet his sister.
And I also don't want it to be confirmed in the show before it gets confirmed in the books.
There was a good post on Reddit which sort of explained the fight.
Basically, Ned doesn't go with the intention of fighting. He's confused that they're there, since his dialogue has him reminding them that Aerys/Rhaegar are dead, and Viserys is with Willem Darry. They know all of that, which indicates that they're protecting Jon because he's either the heir, or he is now actually the king.
That's where things get tricky: Ned's not going to let them take away his nephew so they can revolt a couple of decades later, but they're not going to let him take away their heir and raise him as his own bastard. They may also have not trusted Ned after what happened to the other Targaryen children, even though Ned had nothing to do with that. They can't reach an agreement on this, so that's when the fighting begins.
???The basic premise of the theory is fairly obvious i.e Jon is the son of Rhaegar and Lyanna. The other parts are suspect. I don't think they married nor do I think Lyanna was at the ToJ.
Haven't been on Reddit since yesterday. Let me read up on that.
But for Jon to be the heir, Rhaegar and Lyanna should have been married before the Battle of Trident. There aren't any witness who would attest to such a thing.
“Ser Willem Darry is fled to Dragonstone, with your queen and Prince Viserys. I thought you might have sailed with him.”
“Ser Willem is a good man and true,” said Ser Oswell.
“But not of the Kingsguard,” Ser Gerold pointed out.
He dreamt an old dream, of three knights in white cloaks, and a tower long fallen, and Lyanna in her bed of blood.
In the dream his friends rode with him, as they had in life. Proud Martyn Cassel, Jory’s father; faithful Theo Wull; Ethan Glover, who had
been Brandon’s squire; Ser Mark Ryswell, soft of speech and gentle of heart; the crannogman, Howland Reed; Lord Dustin on his great red
stallion. Ned had known their faces as well as he knew his own once, but the years leech at a man’s memories, even those he has vowed
never to forget. In the dream they were only shadows, grey wraiths on horses made of mist.
They were seven, facing three. In the dream as it had been in life. Yet these were no ordinary three. They waited before the round tower,
the red mountains of Dorne at their backs, their white cloaks blowing in the wind. And these were no shadows; their faces burned clear, even
now. Ser Arthur Dayne, the Sword of the Morning, had a sad smile on his lips. The hilt of the greatsword Dawn poked up over his right
shoulder. Ser Oswell Whent was on one knee, sharpening his blade with a whetstone. Across his white-enameled helm, the black bat of his
House spread its wings. Between them stood fierce old Ser Gerold Hightower, the White Bull, Lord Commander of the Kingsguard.
“I looked for you on the Trident,” Ned said to them.
“We were not there,” Ser Gerold answered. “Woe to the Usurper if we had been,” said Ser Oswell.
“When King’s Landing fell, Ser Jaime slew your king with a golden sword, and I wondered where you were.”
“Far away,” Ser Gerold said, “or Aerys would yet sit the Iron Throne, and our false brother would burn in seven hells.”
“I came down on Storm’s End to lift the siege,” Ned told them, “and the Lords Tyrell and Redwyne dipped their banners, and all their
knights bent the knee to pledge us fealty. I was certain you would be among them.”
“Our knees do not bend easily,” said Ser Arthur Dayne.
“Ser Willem Darry is fled to Dragonstone, with your queen and Prince Viserys. I thought you might have sailed with him.”
“Ser Willem is a good man and true,” said Ser Oswell. “But not of the Kingsguard,” Ser Gerold pointed out. “The Kingsguard does not flee.”
“Then or now,” said Ser Arthur. He donned his helm.
“We swore a vow,” explained old Ser Gerold.
Ned’s wraiths moved up beside him, with shadow swords in hand. They were seven against three.
“And now it begins,” said Ser Arthur Dayne, the Sword of the Morning. He unsheathed Dawn and held it with both hands. The blade was
pale as milkglass, alive with light.
“No,” Ned said with sadness in his voice. “Now it ends.” As they came together in a rush of steel and shadow, he could hear Lyanna
screaming. “Eddard!” she called. A storm of rose petals blew across a blood-streaked sky, as blue as the eyes of death.
Rhaegar is well dead before Jon is born. From the Battle of Trident, Ned rushes to the Kings Landing. Then goes on to lift the siege at Storm's End and then reaches ToJ.All he'd have had to do was legitimise Jon. The three Kingsguard defending him certainly indicates Jon was heir in some way.
Those are the lines which really indicate that Viserys isn't their king.
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If R+L=J then the presence of the 3 Kings Guard points to Lyanna or at least Rhaegar's heir being there. If Rhaegar's child with Lyanna is a bastard then Viserys should be the king as far as the 3 Kingsguard at ToJ are concerned and they or at least one of them should be with Viserys and the Queen.
Wait let me find that passage from GOT
Viserys was the heir regardless. It's mentioned in TWOIAF that Aerys bypasses both Aegon and Rhaenys and names Viserys his heir because he didn't trust the Dornish. That puts a completely new slant on things. Viserys was the heir regardless of whether Rhaegar married or not and KG were breaking their vows. So, using the KG as proof is circular reasoning and doesn't really add up to the facts that we do know.
As for Lyanna, yeah I think she was with the Daynes and not at ToJ. There's so much about them that does not add up. Why is that Dayne kid named after Ned if Ned killed Arthur? There is also that nurse (Wyla I think) who's been mentioned twice now is relation to Jon and she lives at Starfall. Then there's Ashara as well Did she really commit suicide and if so why? How did Ned even know where ToJ was?
We don't know if the 3 KG were aware of Aerys naming Viserys as his heir.
Why would the Dornish continue to fight for Aerys after he names Viserys as his heir. Dorne are closely connected to the throne by the marriage of Rhaegar and whatshername. Aegon is the closest relative of the Martells who has a claim to the throne. Removing Aegon as his heir doesn't seem to be a move which could have been made to keep the Dornish fighting.They were aware of everything else. No need to assume they did not know this. They knew Rhaegar died, they knew Viserys and Rhaella had slipped away and they knew Aegon and Rhaenys were dead. I doubt they would have missed this proclamation especially as it was clearly designed to ensure that the Dornish kept fighting for Aerys.The fact that they are so aware of everything (They don't appear to be surprised when Ned tells them everything) is another reason to suspect the Daynes involvement imo. The ToJ can't have been too far away from Starfall and I doubt Rhaegar expected Lyanna to give birth in a derelict tower.
I think those 3 KG were loyal to Rhaegar alone. He would have needed someone else to back him up if he was planning to get rid his father.
Why would the Dornish continue to fight for Aerys after he names Viserys as his heir. Dorne are closely connected to the throne by the marriage of Rhaegar and whatshername. Aegon is the closest relative of the Martells who has a claim to the throne. Removing Aegon as his heir doesn't seem to be a move which could have been made to keep the Dornish fighting.
The rest seems plausible. As I said in my earlier post, the more you think about that sequence the more murkier it gets.
Shit. I had forgotten about this. A re-read is in order.Because Aegon, Rhaenys and specifically Elia were kept hostage at Kings Landing. That's why Viserys and Rhaella were sent packing to Dragonstone but not the rest of the family. Dorne were forced to join the battle after Aerys did that. Either Ned or Jaime bring this up at one point.
Viserys was the heir regardless. It's mentioned in TWOIAF that Aerys bypasses both Aegon and Rhaenys and names Viserys his heir because he didn't trust the Dornish. That puts a completely new slant on things. Viserys was the heir regardless of whether Rhaegar married or not and KG were breaking their vows. So, using the KG as proof is circular reasoning and doesn't really add up to the facts that we do know.
As for Lyanna, yeah I think she was with the Daynes and not at ToJ. There's so much about them that does not add up. Why is that Dayne kid named after Ned if Ned killed Arthur? There is also that nurse (Wyla I think) who's been mentioned twice now is relation to Jon and she lives at Starfall. Then there's Ashara as well Did she really commit suicide and if so why? How did Ned even know where ToJ was?
Think there's enough to conclude Jon is their son but not much else besides.
Could be really good. Can't really be anything else, could it?I'd be excited to see a prequel of Roberts Rebellion.
RR is vast.How long can the rebellion last though? Maybe something further back would be cool too. It's going to be so far from now anyway.
It's a prequel, suspense is hardly going to be a big part of it, with most of the material already having been released both in books and the DVD extras.It is admittedly. Where would they come up with the suspense though? I do think it's the only feasible option regardless.
4 big battles or so. It could be done well in a couple of seasons IMO.How long can the rebellion last though? Maybe something further back would be cool too. It's going to be so far from now anyway.
Any chance he's Euron?
I thought that to but the cast list for Euron (well the pirate type character) released has his character in his 40s McShane is 72. Big bet right now seems to be Randyll Tarly.
What about Victarion?
