Books A Song of Ice and Fire (Books) | TV show? What TV show?

What do you mean? I think Melisandre genuinely believes that Stannis is the chosen one but I don't buy it (see Lightbringer stuff and many other examples I guess). Dondarrion came back from death six times but how many of that stuff got mentioned in the show? Almost none iirc (correct me if I'm wrong though).

There were some teasers in which you could see Melisandre, Shireen and Selyse return to Castle Black though, so I don't really know.

 
What do you mean? I think Melisandre genuinely believes that Stannis is the chosen one but I don't buy it (see Lightbringer stuff and many other examples I guess). Dondarrion came back from death six times but how many of that stuff got mentioned in the show? Almost none iirc (correct me if I'm wrong though).

There were some teasers in which you could see Melisandre, Shireen and Selyse return to Castle Black though, so I don't really know.

I think he means that she has, in the show called Stannis Azor Ahai reborn more than a few times, so they haven't totally shied away from the supernatural lord of light all that much. She also has been shown to not quite know what is up with Jon, she's hedging her bets. It's overt that Berric has been reanimated a few times by the Red priest and a bit more subtly that, yer man has been trying to frankenstein the Mountain for a while now.

I mean they just showed a guy raise the dead en mass, so they have prepared the audience for a Jon Snow rebirth about as much as they can.
 
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I'm still living in hope that they bring Lady Stoneheart into this somehow. I would've loved that character to be in the show.
 
I think he means that she has, in the show has called him Azor Ahai reborn more than a few times, so they haven't totally shied away from the supernatural lord of light all that much. It's overt that Berric has been reanimated a few times by the Red priest and a bit more subtly that, yer man has been trying to frankenstein the Mountain for a while now.

I mean they just showed a guy raise the dead en mass, so they have prepared the audience for a Jon Snow rebirth about as much as they can.

This.
 
I'm fairly sure the woman who played Catelyn already said the character is dead. They would have had her this season if they really wanted to. A shame really...
 
I'm still living in hope that they bring Lady Stoneheart into this somehow. I would've loved that character to be in the show.

It's an easy cut, she doesn't do anything super important and the things she does do have largely already be re-purposed or cut themselves.

In the TV universe no-one gives a shit about the middle kingdoms right now, Riverun and the brotherhood haven't been seen in over a season at this point iirc, none of our principle characters are even anywhere nearby story-wise she makes no sense right now, it's a cool character though.
 
The thing about Lady Stonehearth is they could have the tv show caught up with the books in one scene (have her meet brienne in time for her to catch jaime on his way back from dorne).
Its one more good scene to end the season with

And the woman playing catelyn wouldn't be lieing saying the character is dead
She'd only need to show up to film one scene, that could be easy enough to hide.
 
The thing about Lady Stonehearth is they could have the tv show caught up with the books in one scene (have her meet brienne in time for her to catch jaime on his way back from dorne).
Its one more good scene to end the season with

And the woman playing catelyn wouldn't be lieing saying the character is dead
She'd only need to show up to film one scene, that could be easy enough to hide.

GRRM was asked to name 5 characters he wishes were in the show. He named Lady Stoneheart as one of five...
 
GRRM was asked to name 5 characters he wishes were in the show. He named Lady Stoneheart as one of five...
Well technically she isn't in the show yet. Not that I particularly think it'll happen but I lean toward the cynical side with stuff like that.
 
Meh, it was a rubbish storyline in the books to begin with, if you ask me.
 
Meh, it was a rubbish storyline in the books to begin with, if you ask me.
It was a cool idea at first, but then when you think more and more about it, you realise it really isn't... I don't think it would integrate well into the show either. Magic is really difficult to merge without losing general viewer interest - Bran's arc is probably the biggest victim of this.
 
Behave!

It was fantastic and a great end to ASoS

Everything about the Jaime/Stoneheart storyline is superb.
 
Jaime's riverlands arc was fantastic, the UnCat stuff... Not so much.
 
Jaime's riverlands arc was fantastic, the UnCat stuff... Not so much.

The Jaime arc bends itself around UnCat throughout the Feast though, don't you think? And besides we have only seen UnCat twice in three books since she was was introduced so we haven't seen her do much yet. It's only been secondhand information for the most part.
 
She doesn't exactly advance the overall plot much, does she? I'd rather see a few of the many other storylines getting some closure or at least some actual development instead of creating a new one. It was pointless in my opinion and I don't think she'd turn out to be an indispensable part of the story.

Also, the whole storyline with Jaime and the Brotherhood didn't really need her imo. She could've stayed dead and the rest still could've made sense, with a few tweaks.
 
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Jaime's riverlands arc was fantastic, the UnCat stuff... Not so much.

I disagree really,
the brotherhood without banners being inside riverrun castle (cant remember its name),
killing frey's left, right and center and just getting increasingly ruthless and vicious is a good arc too.

Ok undead cat being the ringleader is a hard sell but most parts of that storyline and how it links brienne and jaime to these guys is pretty good imo.
 
She doesn't exactly advance the overall plot much, does she? I'd rather see a few of the many other storylines getting some closure or at least some actual development instead of creating a new one. It was pointless in my opinion and I don't think she'd turn out to be an indispensable part of the story.
She hardly has any page time though so she's hardly taking up valuable time either. She's appeared twice in three books...
And it depends what you mean by the 'story'. If the sole point of reading the books is the others battle then 90% of the books are dispensable. The scope of the story is huge and most of it probably won't affect the battle with the others but are brilliant anyway.
 
In any case it'll be interesting to see where they chuck Jaime next.
 
Yeah, I think he'll probably stay in Dorne and play a part of whatever the TV show writers have decided to happen there. If he dies in the books he probably will on the show, as well, although I doubt it.
 
That seems too passive, Jaime seems too pivotal to just stay in Dorne or die any time soon. The copious amount of theories will be all for nothing. Unless the Doran grand plot exists/Dorne plays a big part of end game (it is likely) but still. Maybe Dorne allies with Daenerys?
 
Time to finally see Mace Tyrell and Meryn Trant in Braavos in the next episode?
Arya will see Trant and will use the poison on him, instead of her target. Which will get her punished.
The other things that should feature are some Dorne stuff, preferably involving Doran and Jaime, Jon returning to the wall ( I don't think he'll get stabbed just yet. That'd probably be the final scene of the season), Ramsey's terrorist act which will send Stannis's women back to Castle Black and of course the gladiator battles. That should leave Cersei's walk, the battle of Winterfell, Snow stabbing and whatever happens to Daenerys after her dragon ride for the last episode. Am I missing something?

Edit: Time for Sam to feck off to the South, isn't it? They can't be having him there when Jon gets stabbed, surely?
 
Yea it's possible that Mel will bring him back and then he would be indeed AA reincarnated.
I don't think she's got the ability to bring someone back as AA. If she had I'd reckon she would have killed that person herself and brought them back. Why wait? In the words of Ellie Goulding "What are you waiting for?".
 
I don't think she's got the ability to bring someone back as AA. If she had I'd reckon she would have killed that person herself and brought them back. Why wait? In the words of Ellie Goulding "What are you waiting for?".

Interesting that in the TV show she very definitely didn't have that ability seeing as she was amazed at Beric's resurrection....
 
Interesting that in the TV show she very definitely didn't have that ability seeing as she was amazed at Beric's resurrection....

Has she tried yet though?
Anyway, he can always recover the traditional way - sitting in bed for a few chapters.
 
The last episode of the season is called Mother's Mercy. Obviously this will be Cersei's naked walk, but one of Lady Stoneheart's aliases is Mother Mercy. ;)
 
Time to finally see Mace Tyrell and Meryn Trant in Braavos in the next episode?
Arya will see Trant and will use the poison on him, instead of her target. Which will get her punished.
The other things that should feature are some Dorne stuff, preferably involving Doran and Jaime, Jon returning to the wall ( I don't think he'll get stabbed just yet. That'd probably be the final scene of the season), Ramsey's terrorist act which will send Stannis's women back to Castle Black and of course the gladiator battles. That should leave Cersei's walk, the battle of Winterfell, Snow stabbing and whatever happens to Daenerys after her dragon ride for the last episode. Am I missing something?

Edit: Time for Sam to feck off to the South, isn't it? They can't be having him there when Jon gets stabbed, surely?

I wonder if Jon will be stabbed and then resurrected in the last episode? You'd imagine it would be pretty impossible to hide the fact that Kit Harrington will be acting in the 6th season and they might not want to spoil that. Jon getting resurrected could be a great last scene.

My prediction would be

Episode 9 - Arya kills the gambler/trant, Something big happens in Dorne with Doran, Jon returns and Sam leaves for Oldtown, Ramsay attacks Stannis. Dany takes off with Drogon to end the episode.

Episode 10 - Stannis decides to burn Shireen, Shots of the other 2 dragons destroying Meereen, Sansa and Theon escape maybe with Brienne's help, Cersie's walk of shame and unveiling of Robert Strong at the very end of it. Finally, Jon gets stabbed.

Another possible tangent is Stannis dies. Melisandre then burns Shireen trying to resurrect Stannis but it's Jon who wakes up at Castle Black....that's probably unlikely though.
 
Interesting that in the TV show she very definitely didn't have that ability seeing as she was amazed at Beric's resurrection....
I thought she was shocked at him being resurrected six times rather than shocked at the resurrection itself
 
Another possible tangent is Stannis dies. Melisandre then burns Shireen trying to resurrect Stannis but it's Jon who wakes up at Castle Black....that's probably unlikely though.

That would be very cool
 
Aye if she gives it a load of guff about resurrecting Azor Ahai while performing the resurrection it could work out quite well on tele. Finish the season with her doing that and Jon's eyes opening or summat. Cliche as feck but would make me squeal like a bitch.
 
I see a lot of people are expecting/hoping the seriea ends with the dragons swooping in and burning all the white walkers to save the day. Surely it won't be so predictable?
 
If the season ends with Jon waking up I can just imagine the emotions in the The TV show thread. That thread will erupt or self destruct when they think Jon is dead. I'm sure that's how it will be played if they want to end it with his resurrection. There is someone on the Cafe I need to thank for recommending this book. I think I was browsing one of the book threads on here and someone mentioned it. Whoever it is I'll find you :)
 
If they do end it with the resurrection (if there is one), then surely he'll get stabbed in the next episode?
 
I think showing Hardhome and the carnage there could change the opinion of the Watch to the point that they won't shank him. Given they know they can't fight the Others and the wights without them.