A serious look at Mauricio Pochettino

MackRobinson said:
The bolded is nothing but crazy talk. All that does is put a cloud of uncertainty around Spurs and damages the reputation of everyone involved. If Poch wants to leave Levy will demand a world record fee, United will pay it and that will be the end of it. With that said, if Spurs keep all of their key players I don't see him leaving.
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As I said, I don't think it will come to the nuclear option that I outlined. But it remains an option, and one that I think Levy would be ready to use if necessary. You shouldn't under-estimate how much damage the Berbatov saga did to the state of relations between Levy and United.

Even if Pochettino wanted to leave this summer for United, which he won't, Levy would not let it happen. You don't sign a 5 year contract and just walk away 1 year later ... especially not to United.
 
GlastonSpur said:
As I said, I don't think it will come to the nuclear option that I outlined. But it remains an option, and one that I think Levy would be ready to use if necessary. You shouldn't under-estimate how much damage the Berbatov saga did to the state of relations between Levy and United.

Even if Pochettino wanted to leave this summer for United, which he won't, Levy would not let it happen. You don't sign a 5 year contract and just walk away 1 year later ... especially not to United.
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Pochettino has the power here not Levy. Poch can resign if he wants and walk away - Levy couldnt do a thing. Hey may even go back to Spurs and request more money more wages etc as he is in demand. Levy cant really keep him if he declares he wants to leave.
 
westmeath said:
Poch can kill the speculation with a one line statement but hasn’t done so. That’s how “emotionally invested” he is.
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How many times does it need to be said that Pochettino never responds to such stories in that way. He didn't do it regarding Real Madrid and he won't this time around with United.

He's said that there always rumours about this, that and the other, and has simply pointed to the close working relationship he has with Levy, the high degree of trust that exists between them, and that, as far as he (Pochettino) is concerned, there are some things that don't need to be said.

Let the media continue to wank themselves silly. They will anyway, regardless of what he says or doesn't say, because click-bait is their trade. But it won't make any difference.
 
Dutsey said:
Pochettino has the power here not Levy. Poch can resign if he wants and walk away - Levy couldnt do a thing. Hey may even go back to Spurs and request more money more wages etc as he is in demand. Levy cant really keep him if he declares he wants to leave.
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Not true. I've already said what Levy could do if he's a mind to. Contracts are not just worthless bits of paper. Resigning does not end the contract.
 
InLevyITrust said:
I think it was 2-3, why? I don’t see why you simple don’t google it, I don’t wanna be your teacher. Of course I seen it it was after the game. Also if your Pogba’s biggest fan, it will be interesting to se what Poch makes of him :lol:.
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Thanks for changing the topic to Pogba, but if you don't mind, this is a Poch thread and I'd prefer to stick to the discussion.

So I checked the press conference in full to see whether you were correct or not, and you weren't.

The presser went as follows:

Question about Deli Alli
Question about his maturity for handling the situation well
Question about Sons absence and whether there will be a dip into the market in Jan
Question about title chances for spurs and if it suits them being underdogs

... THEN a question about the ex Southampton chairman's statement on Poch link to United, which the press officer jumped in and shut down straight away. So yes, it's pretty damning that Poch couldn't be trusted to shut down the media and proclaim his commitment to Spurs, before a question was even finished being asked. It wasn't asked 2 or 3 times. Dharmesh Seth asked about the link only once in that presser (after 4-5 spurs related qs) and was shut down by the press officer. That's not normal.
 
Nobody knows for sure but I could imagine that taking over United might be the more attractive option for Poch. Here he would have the possibility to build something from scratch (while getting paid a fortune) and realize his own vision of football with enough money to spend.
We are quite desperate after the past 5 years so the pressure would be much less compared to Madrid. Improving our style of play and secure a top 4 finish would be enough in the first season.
 
VP89 said:
THEN a question about the Southampton managers statement on Poch link to United, which the press officer jumped in and shut down straight away.
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Tried to search, all I found is this Spurs PC. What did that Southampton manager (les Reed I guess) say about Poch?
 
Primativ said:
Poch's so emotionally invested at Tottenham, he isn't throwing that away to start over again at any other English club, including United.
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You say others are fantasising stuff and yet post stuff like this. What's the proof of this?
 
VP89 said:
Thanks for changing the topic to Pogba, but if you don't mind, this is a Poch thread and I'd prefer to stick to the discussion.

So I checked the press conference in full to see whether you were correct or not, and you weren't.

The presser went as follows:

Question about Deli Alli
Question about his maturity for handling the situation well
Question about Sons absence and whether there will be a dip into the market in Jan
Question about title chances for spurs and if it suits them being underdogs

... THEN a question about the ex Southampton chairman's statement on Poch link to United, which the press officer jumped in and shut down straight away. So yes, it's pretty damning that Poch couldn't be trusted to shut down the media and proclaim his commitment to Spurs, before a question was even finished being asked. It wasn't asked 2 or 3 times. Dharmesh Seth asked about the link only once in that presser (after 4-5 spurs related qs) and was shut down by the press officer. That's not normal.
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I will hazard a guess that the press office and Poch had already agreed that those questions would be shut down.
 
Tarrou said:
The above seems quite draconian even by Levy's standards and I'd say unlikely to ever happen, because it is the wrong message for a business to send to its current and future staff.

Generally when managers want to leave they leave, and there are surely good reasons for that.
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I agree that it's very unlikely to happen (I would say it won't happen), but only because Pochettino won't want to leave.

But actually if it did happen it would send a good message as far as the club is concerned, namely that contracts are to be taken seriously.
 
roonster09 said:
Tried to search, all I found is this Spurs PC. What did that Southampton manager (les Reed I guess) say about Poch?
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Nothing major just that Poch will be professional and focused on Spurs for the remainder of this season even if he is considering United, because that's what he did when he was at Southampton.

Dharmesh Seth was actually trying to suggest Poch is still focused on the job which would have helped his case, he even said "let me finish" but the press officer heard United and panicked.

Cassidy said:
I will hazard a guess that the press office and Poch had already agreed that those questions would be shut down.
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In which case Poch would have shut them down himself like he did with Real.

It's sort of obvious how things are going down - the man United want is in a job or he'd be here now. A senior figure of the Times well sourced with Tottenham news confirms Poch is interested and the next day any United driven questions are blocked by someone else rather than Poch himself.

If Paul Mitchell materialises it may begin to be as obvious as when Zlatan joined us.
 
VP89 said:
Nothing major just that Poch will be professional and focused on Spurs for the remainder of this season even if he is considering United, because that's what he did when he was at Southampton.

Dharmesh Seth was actually trying to suggest Poch is still focused on the job which would have helped his case, he even said "let me finish" but the press officer heard United and panicked.
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Thanks. Too many news and noise about this. Carragher also said in his column that if ManUtd offers him job then Poch should take it and gave a reminder of how big the club is, no matter how good Spurs new stadium is.
 
Cassidy said:
I will hazard a guess that the press office and Poch had already agreed that those questions would be shut down.
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Yep. The club, including Pochettino, will have decided that the media can whip themselves into a frenzy ... but only in their own time, not at Spurs' press conferences.
 



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I'm not sure if that sounds like an opinion or not but I'd wager that Sam Lee does have a few decent contacts at United even though he's tier 1 for City. Also helps that he's a United "fan" - you'd think he would have a degree of interest in this.
 
GlastonSpur said:
Yep. The club, including Pochettino, will have decided that the media can whip themselves into a frenzy ... but only in their own time, not at Spurs' press conferences.
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Really? Not from what I've saw. I think he's quite happy with what's happening.
 
GlastonSpur said:
Yep. The club, including Pochettino, will have decided that the media can whip themselves into a frenzy ... but only in their own time, not at Spurs' press conferences.
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Including Poch? Where'd you get that bit from. He was literally stopped from being allowed to answer a question about it. If he was on board he'd have shut it down himself.

Also there's a frenzy but the pressers aren't hi jacked from it. There were 4 or 5 spurs related questions before the United one came up.
 
VP89 said:
Thanks for changing the topic to Pogba, but if you don't mind, this is a Poch thread and I'd prefer to stick to the discussion.

So I checked the press conference in full to see whether you were correct or not, and you weren't.

The presser went as follows:

Question about Deli Alli
Question about his maturity for handling the situation well
Question about Sons absence and whether there will be a dip into the market in Jan
Question about title chances for spurs and if it suits them being underdogs

... THEN a question about the ex Southampton chairman's statement on Poch link to United, which the press officer jumped in and shut down straight away. So yes, it's pretty damning that Poch couldn't be trusted to shut down the media and proclaim his commitment to Spurs, before a question was even finished being asked. It wasn't asked 2 or 3 times. Dharmesh Seth asked about the link only once in that presser (after 4-5 spurs related qs) and was shut down by the press officer. That's not normal.
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As @Cassidy says, do you not think the press officer and Poch might of had a word before hand. I have seen nothing damning at all, but I guess it depends on what side your on. If Poch wants to go I’m sure he will let it known.
 
MaxiPaxi said:



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I'm not sure if that sounds like an opinion or not but I'd wager that Sam Lee does have a few decent contacts at United even though he's tier 1 for City. Also helps that he's a United "fan" - you'd think he would have a degree of interest in this.
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Don't understand why he thinks this will be like Moyes appointment.

Edit: Thought he was comparing Moyes and Poch.
 
InLevyITrust said:
As @Cassidy says, do you not think the press officer and Poch might of had a word before hand. I have seen nothing damning at all, but I guess it depends on what side your on.
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If they had a word and both agreed on the way forward, there's no reason for Poch not to be able to handle it before. He did it just fine with Real Madrid links.
 
Nothing out of the ordinary a press officer shooting down the reporters. Why would Spurs even want to get involved in all of that gossip
 
MaxiPaxi said:
Really? Not from what I've saw. I think he's quite happy with what's happening.
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He was certainly quite happy with the Spur's press officer, judging by his smiling and joking.

You have to be really naïve to think the press conference strategy about this wasn't decided and agreed beforehand.
 
roonster09 said:
Don't understand why he thinks this will be like Moyes appointment.
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Because OGS isn't qualified as a manager and probably decided upon for romantic reasons rather than pragmatic ones.

Moyes was given a 5 year contract, British manager, fellow Scott who supposedly believed in similar values and it flopped.

Ole is very different but I guess Sammy Lee is suggesting he's not the most qualified. He's probably not wrong - Blanc as an interim might have been smarter but I really hope OGS flies for us.
 
VP89 said:
Because OGS isn't qualified as a manager and probably decided upon for romantic reasons rather than pragmatic ones.

Moyes was given a 5 year contract, British manager, fellow Scott who supposedly believed in similar values and it flopped.

Ole is very different but I guess Sammy Lee is suggesting he's not the most qualified. He's probably not wrong - Blanc as an interim might have been smarter but I really hope OGS flies for us.
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I misread it, thought he is comparing Poch to Moyes.
 
GlastonSpur said:
He was certainly quite happy with the Spur's press officer, judging by his smiling and joking.

You have to be really naïve to think the press conference strategy about this wasn't decided and agreed beforehand.
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I'm sure he was quite happy to answer questions about United as well. Sure it would have been more of the same but I'm pretty sure Poch is loving all the publicity that comes with Man United.
 
VP89 said:
Including Poch? Where'd you get that bit from. He was literally stopped from being allowed to answer a question about it. If he was on board he'd have shut it down himself.

Also there's a frenzy but the pressers aren't hi jacked from it. There were 4 or 5 spurs related questions before the United one came up.
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This is so naïve. Do you seriously imagine that it wasn't discussed beforehand with Pochettino re. the inevitable questions concerning the United story?

Pochettino can comment on anything any time he wants. If he'd really wanted to answer the question then he would have, but clearly it's easier for him to have the press officer, as agreed beforehand, step in.
 
GlastonSpur said:
This is so naïve. Do you seriously imagine that it wasn't discussed beforehand with Pochettino re. the inevitable questions concerning the United story?

Pochettino can comment on anything any time he wants. If he'd really wanted to answer the question then he would have, but clearly it's easier for him to have the press officer, as agreed beforehand, step in.
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What's naieve is that you think it's normal to have a press officer shut down questions mid way before they're asked for the first time.

That's not normal. But dropping this point and just as a high level, what % would you give on Poch being a spurs manager come next season?
 
VP89 said:
What's naieve is that you think it's normal to have a press officer shut down questions mid way before they're asked for the first time.

That's not normal. But dropping this point and just as a high level, what % would you give on Poch being a spurs manager come next season?
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100%. There is zero chance of Pochettino walking away from a new-signed 5 year contract to go manage United in the Europa League when things are going so well for him at Spurs.
 
GlastonSpur said:
As I said, I don't think it will come to the nuclear option that I outlined. But it remains an option, and one that I think Levy would be ready to use if necessary. You shouldn't under-estimate how much damage the Berbatov saga did to the state of relations between Levy and United.

Even if Pochettino wanted to leave this summer for United, which he won't, Levy would not let it happen. You don't sign a 5 year contract and just walk away 1 year later ... especially not to United.
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How would he stop him from leaving? Poch isn't one of the players, he cannot simply chuck into the reserves and let him rot.
 
GlastonSpur said:
100%. There is zero chance of Pochettino walking away from a new-signed 5 year contract to go manage United in the Europa League when things are going so well for him at Spurs.
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United are a mammoth club. He knows he can turn us from Europa league to champions league in one season and have backing he's never experienced at Spurs (and will never experience). Worth noting his heritage as a South American and the substantial appeal United will have for him.

Also, how can Levy block the leave if it were to happen? There's a buyout. You can't stop a manager from moving on.
 
GlastonSpur said:
100%. There is zero chance of Pochettino walking away from a new-signed 5 year contract to go manage United in the Europa League when things are going so well for him at Spurs.
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Things are going so well? You're not winning trophies and haven't done in a long time. Ultimately, that's what Poch will want, maybe not at United but I can't imagine he'll be at Spurs for much longer. Your best achievement in the last 10 years was beating Arsenal the other day. Says something about the club.
 
VP89 said:
United are a mammoth club. He knows he can turn us from Europa league to champions league in one season and have backing he's never experienced at Spurs (and will never experience). Worth noting his heritage as a South American and the substantial appeal United will have for him.

Also, how can Levy block the leave if it were to happen? There's a buyout. You can't stop a manager from moving on.
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A buy out? Poch would have to do that himself, United can’t do that. Also if Poch were to with money given to him buy United it would ruin his reputation not to mention legal ramifications.
 
Rhyme Animal said:
Also in the interview, where the media goon is preventing Pochettino from answering the question, I think Pochettino looks annoyed that he's being prevented from answering.

The way he says to the Spurs PR lackey, 'you want to be the star of this interview' is a classic moment of passive aggressive humour I think. It's an uncomfortable moment.

At 4.50, the interviewer starts to talk about Man Utd and Pochettino is nodding as the guy is talking, he looks relaxed and as though he is totally into talking about it...

Then, at 5.03 when the PR guy interrupts the interviewer, Pochettino looks shocked at the PR guy, like 'what are you doing?'

After he's been prevented from speaking around 5.40 he just has this look on his face that just seems unusual for him, and then he makes the 'you want to do the interview' joke.

It's just a really weird interview, and to me, he looks like he wants to talk. The Spurs guy comes across like a jealous, possessive boyfriend or something - it's very odd.

Surely even the most deluded of Spurs fans is able to see that there's something there?

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I am desperate for us to get Pocche. But still I think....
The PO in this video, is amazing. I think the reporter was being a c*nt(they get paid for being that, so I don't respect them). But I feel the PO handled it superbly. The reporter was out of order trying to argue "no, you have to let me ask, you have to answer", the PO did a great job of shutting him down.

I really don't know how you were able to infer what you have from that video.
 
Random Task said:
How would he stop him from leaving? Poch isn't one of the players, he cannot simply chuck into the reserves and let him rot.
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I've already said how he could prevent Pochettino from managing at United this summer. He could simply place him on paid leave - still under contract - and appoint a new manager for the 1st team, letting United stew in their own juices and having to go for a Plan B permanent manager.
 
Di Maria's angel said:
Things are going so well? You're not winning trophies and haven't done in a long time. Ultimately, that's what Poch will want, maybe not at United but I can't imagine he'll be at Spurs for much longer. Your best achievement in the last 10 years was beating Arsenal the other day. Says something about the club.
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There is a flip side to your argument you are aware surely? Why would the biggest club in the world want a manager who has won nothing at 3 clubs and had oppuertunites to win both the league and an FA cup?
 
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