A serious look at Mauricio Pochettino

If he comes to United, there should be three players that should come with him. Kane, Son, and N’Dombele. Maybe even Ali, Winks or Forsyth. These players amongst a few other share emotional feelings for Poch and they will jump at the chance to play under him again, especially as United can double their current salary easily.

:lol: Your manager has just won back to back games, and you still continue talking this absolute horseshit. So you get Poch and then Woody is willing to spend probably the guts of £400M for players. 2 of which have improved their form dramatically under a new manager? Literally pull your head out of your arsehole.
 
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:lol: You’re manager has just won back to back games, and you still continue talking this absolute horseshit. So you get Poch and then Woody is willing to spend probably the guts of £400M for players. 2 of which have improved their form dramatically under a new manager? Literally pull your head out of your arsehole.

Don't think I've seen another poster produce the sheer level of ineptitude as Amadeus.
 
If he comes to United, there should be three players that should come with him. Kane, Son, and N’Dombele. Maybe even Ali, Winks or Forsyth. These players amongst a few other share emotional feelings for Poch and they will jump at the chance to play under him again, especially as United can double their current salary easily.


Surely this the post that proves you are a troll and you get your marching orders from the forum was talking absolute jibberish about Poch and more Poch :lol:
 
Arsenal fans on social media are weirdly confident that they are going to get Poch or Allegri. Do you guys really think there is a genuine possibility of that happening?
 
Arsenal fans on social media are weirdly confident that they are going to get Poch or Allegri. Do you guys really think there is a genuine possibility of that happening?

Now that the United fans are going Ole in, it seems likely.
 
There is no way Ole goes anywhere any time soon, after this week's wins. So, either Poch shows an exemplary restrain (could turn into stupidity, to be fair, if he misses on good options while waiting) or he won't be coming to United this time around. Arsenal would be logical, but depends on whether Poch wants it and Arsenal wants him.

Despite him clearly being talented, I never fancied Poch that much, for United – I don't see him bringing our old glory back to United. I don't want him at Arsenal, either, however because that will very likely make Arsenal better and why would we want THAT :)
 
There is no way Ole goes anywhere any time soon, after this week's wins. So, either Poch shows an exemplary restrain (could turn into stupidity, to be fair, if he misses on good options while waiting) or he won't be coming to United this time around. Arsenal would be logical, but depends on whether Poch wants it and Arsenal wants him.

Despite him clearly being talented, I never fancied Poch that much, for United – I don't see him bringing our old glory back to United. I don't want him at Arsenal, either, however because that will very likely make Arsenal better and why would we want THAT :)

It's the inconsistency with Ole, man. If Poch goes and revitalises Arsenal and we come undone, what do we even do? I hope they stick with the Calvin Klein model for a little bit longer.

We should have evaluated Ole at the end of last season and then decided whether to appoint him as a permanent manager. 24 points from 16 games is just unacceptable.
 
Arsenal fans on social media are weirdly confident that they are going to get Poch or Allegri. Do you guys really think there is a genuine possibility of that happening?
Nope. They're not an elite club and they don't have the budget. Plus, Pochettino has already said he's going abroad next and Allegri already bombed his Arsenal interview before Emery was appointed, apparently he didn't speak enough English to be considered for the job, although his presentation was good apparently.
 
It's the inconsistency with Ole, man. If Poch goes and revitalises Arsenal and we come undone, what do we even do? I hope they stick with the Calvin Klein model for a little bit longer.

We should have evaluated Ole at the end of last season and then decided whether to appoint him as a permanent manager. 24 points from 16 games is just unacceptable.
I hear you. I am not saying Ole is a sure thing, far from it, but having beaten both Mou at Spurs and Pep at City has certainly bought him time at least till Summer. If he manages to improve performance with weaker teams and achieve top 6, or even top 4 - he's here for the next season as well. Poch won't wait around that long.

My feelings towards Poch are a separate deal :)
 
Allegri already bombed his Arsenal interview before Emery was appointed, apparently he didn't speak enough English to be considered for the job, although his presentation was good apparently.
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:lol: Your manager has just won back to back games, and you still continue talking this absolute horseshit. So you get Poch and then Woody is willing to spend probably the guts of £400M for players. 2 of which have improved their form dramatically under a new manager? Literally pull your head out of your arsehole.
You are thinking in the moment and with a narrow perspective. I judge Ole based on more than two games. He went on a better run during the honeymoon period and I still don’t rate him that highly. Let see if he can change that by the end of the season and/or mid season. Poch is undoubtedly a manager that can rebuild United the right way as evidence with Spurs. You guys lucked out because you could have easily been at the level of Everton without Poch.

Also, I don’t believe Poch should bring in all those players. Just one or two. All managers beside Ole at United post Sir Alex Ferguson has brought in players that once played for them before and I will not be surprised if Pochettino does the same.
 
You are thinking in the moment and with a narrow perspective. I judge Ole based on more than two games. He went on a better run during the honeymoon period and I still don’t rate him that highly. Let see if he can change that by the end of the season and/or mid season. Poch is undoubtedly a manager that can rebuild United the right way as evidence with Spurs. You guys lucked out because you could have easily been at the level of Everton without Poch.

Also, I don’t believe Poch should bring in all those players. Just one or two. All managers beside Ole at United post Sir Alex Ferguson has brought in players that once played for them before and I will not be surprised if Pochettino does the same.

You are deliusuonal we were top 6 before Poch, you honestly just sound like an absolute moron. You think Poch would bring take Kane and Son both? In the same transfer window, seriously yes or no?

As for Ole, and your own club how about supporting them rather be than a football coach.
 
You are deliusuonal we were top 6 before Poch, you honestly just sound like an absolute moron. You think Poch would bring take Kane and Son both? In the same transfer window, seriously yes or no?

As for Ole, and your own club how about supporting them rather be than a football coach.
:lol: top 6. Poch gave you constant champions league qualification and finalists on a shoe string budget less then West Ham so that you can build your fancy stadium.
Poch can bring one of those players to United. Both, it has not happened before in football so I don’t see it changing. Unless it is in a separate window. I do support the club and I give Ole chances as well, but he has not convinced me that he is worth taking on this rebuilding project yet. Poch on the other hand has an excellent record in this regard when you look at the team he built at Spurs with minuscule support from their board.
 
:lol: top 6. Poch gave you constant champions league qualification and finalists on a shoe string budget less then West Ham so that you can build your fancy stadium.
Poch can bring one of those players to United. Both, it has not happened before in football so I don’t see it changing. Unless it is in a separate window. I do support the club and I give Ole chances as well, but he has not convinced me that he is worth taking on this rebuilding project yet. Poch on the other hand has an excellent record in this regard when you look at the team he built at Spurs with minuscule support from their board.

Klopp delivered two CL finals and one win for less than Pochettino. Looks like they will walk the league, too.

Good luck to whoever wants him - it sucks constantly losing the last hurdle all the time.
 
Klopp delivered two CL finals and one win for less than Pochettino. Looks like they will walk the league, too.

Good luck to whoever wants him - it sucks constantly losing the last hurdle all the time.
Yea that is why Klopp is regarded the best manager in football. Pochettino accomplishments is not far of from Dortmund Klopp as he is doing it in a much more competitive league with fixtures pile up. Such intensity demanded by Poch and the amount of games played makes it harder for Spurs to be competitive in all front. Especially when his team had the squad depth of a league one side. Just like Liverpool intelligently saw Klopp potential with the limitations he had at Dortmund, other big club should be able to see Poch accomplishments with the limitations he had at Spurs. Pochettino was one dumb Sissoko penalty decision from completely smashing Klopp accomplishments at Dortmund.
 
Nope. They're not an elite club and they don't have the budget. Plus, Pochettino has already said he's going abroad next and Allegri already bombed his Arsenal interview before Emery was appointed, apparently he didn't speak enough English to be considered for the job, although his presentation was good apparently.
Do Arsenal even have english players in the squad? Mostly french, german and spanish, no?
 
Pochettino accomplishments is not far of from Dortmund Klopp as he is doing it in a much more competitive league with fixtures pile up.

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Pochettino was one dumb Sissoko penalty decision from completely smashing Klopp accomplishments at Dortmund.

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Klopp won two league titles, three domestic cups, and lost a CL final all with Bayern.

Pochettino has won nothing as a manager. You're either fully committed to trolling, or completely cuckoo :wenger:
 
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Klopp won two league titles, three domestic cups, and lost a CL final all with Bayern.

Pochettino has won nothing as a manager. You're either fully committed to trolling, or completely cuckoo :wenger:
The league is completely different. Is like saying Gerard won a domestic cup with Rangers so his accomplishments is much better than a manager who has revolutionized a club in a more competitive league where he took them to a champion league final and gave them consistent years of champions league football. The trophy argument with Poch is laughable at this state despite it being used to death by those who think he hasn’t accomplished much with Spurs. A club like Spurs before Poch was never expected to win titles, challenge for the league or get into the champions league as often as they. Especially without the backing of a board who wasn’t supportive of Pochettino Philosophy or sport science equipment.
Pochettino has smashed expectations with what he was giving at Spurs and as he stated, chapter 1 was successful completed. Chapter 2 was going to be another rebuild but this time with the aim of winning trophies due to changing your club expectations. However, he was not giving the time despite bringing a top player that would have not even thought about coming to Spurs without him in charge, as well as having conversations with several other top players. If Poch has his way and was able to push out the players he didn’t seem fit and was backed financially into buying a player like Dybala, the second chapter would have seen lots of trophies as indicated with his Audi cup win before the season started.

Regardless, I m not bothered with Spurs anymore and as United showedthey were not as potent in the attack when we typically meet you guys with Kane doing a great job disappearing against us and you guys only having one shot on target. Very sad that most Spurs fan went into hiding after that game :lol:
 
The league is completely different. Is like saying Gerard won a domestic cup with Rangers so his accomplishments is much better than a manager who has revolutionized a club in a more competitive league where he took them to a champion league final and gave them consistent years of champions league football. The trophy argument with Poch is laughable at this state despite it being used to death by those who think he hasn’t accomplished much with Spurs. A club like Spurs before Poch was never expected to win titles, challenge for the league or get into the champions league as often as they. Especially without the backing of a board who wasn’t supportive of Pochettino Philosophy or sport science equipment.
Pochettino has smashed expectations with what he was giving at Spurs and as he stated, chapter 1 was successful completed. Chapter 2 was going to be another rebuild but this time with the aim of winning trophies due to changing your club expectations. However, he was not giving the time despite bringing a top player that would have not even thought about coming to Spurs without him in charge, as well as having conversations with several other top players. If Poch has his way and was able to push out the players he didn’t seem fit and was backed financially into buying a player like Dybala, the second chapter would have seen lots of trophies as indicated with his Audi cup win before the season started.

Regardless, I m not bothered with Spurs anymore and as United showedthey were not as potent in the attack when we typically meet you guys with Kane doing a great job disappearing against us and you guys only having one shot on target. Very sad that most Spurs fan went into hiding after that game :lol:
Bro, I want Poch as our next manager, but you are writing english essays when you could just say Poch is a better manager than Ole and leave it at that. This 2 game streak has suddenly wiped our fans memories of a dreadful run since March. Do people realise that we have had our worst start in 30 years? The first step to being mediocre is accepting it. We are Manchester United and we need a better manager than Ole, period.
 
Del Bosque too. Obviously any examples of this highly rare thing are going to have to reach back a tad, but twice in 15 years at least shows precedent.

There's plenty of examples where winning coaches are dismissed - you could have said Juve with Allegri and Conte or Inter with Mancini. Madrid sacking Capello was no more scandalous than us firing LVG on the back of Wembley.
 
Those who think we should go for Poch or someone else, are asking for more turmoil.
No new manager will simply start winning every match.
They will have their own style, want their own players.

The board handicapped Ole by delaying their decisions this season.

Finally Ole has a team playing the way he wants it to.
We are still very thin. So if anything can be done in January, it will be most welcome.
Pogba is still to return.
 
Do Arsenal even have english players in the squad? Mostly french, german and spanish, no?
I think the issue and concern is communication with the board and other staff. Apparently during the interview his agent had to do most of the talking for him because his English was so poor.
 
Mourinho took the same squad Poch had and he has done so well.

Just because Poch has experience does not make him a better manager.

Our problems have always been a board that has lost the plot.
I think Mourinho is perfect for spurs because their attack was set, just lacked motivation and refused to play for the previous manager. We will have to see how their season shapes up. Burnley have also been poor this season.
 
I think Mourinho is perfect for spurs because their attack was set, just lacked motivation and refused to play for the previous manager. We will have to see how their season shapes up. Burnley have also been poor this season.

I think the key feature is that we have very few (if any) disruptive personalities, yet still a lot of talent.

That will have thrown him off, in a good way
 
Bro, I want Poch as our next manager, but you are writing english essays when you could just say Poch is a better manager than Ole and leave it at that. This 2 game streak has suddenly wiped our fans memories of a dreadful run since March. Do people realise that we have had our worst start in 30 years? The first step to being mediocre is accepting it. We are Manchester United and we need a better manager than Ole, period.
And you're wrong, I like Ole's tactics much better than what Poch had ever tried to do even with Spurs. In fact, it's back to our roots, our identity, and it's the start of the 2008 team that we are going for, and I love that idea. I respect Ole for trying to do something as exceptional as that team.

We have the youngest squad ever and we are fixing problems one by one. It's going to come quick and fast.
 
The league is completely different. Is like saying Gerard won a domestic cup with Rangers so his accomplishments is much better than a manager who has revolutionized a club in a more competitive league where he took them to a champion league final and gave them consistent years of champions league football. The trophy argument with Poch is laughable at this state despite it being used to death by those who think he hasn’t accomplished much with Spurs. A club like Spurs before Poch was never expected to win titles, challenge for the league or get into the champions league as often as they. Especially without the backing of a board who wasn’t supportive of Pochettino Philosophy or sport science equipment.
Pochettino has smashed expectations with what he was giving at Spurs and as he stated, chapter 1 was successful completed. Chapter 2 was going to be another rebuild but this time with the aim of winning trophies due to changing your club expectations. However, he was not giving the time despite bringing a top player that would have not even thought about coming to Spurs without him in charge, as well as having conversations with several other top players. If Poch has his way and was able to push out the players he didn’t seem fit and was backed financially into buying a player like Dybala, the second chapter would have seen lots of trophies as indicated with his Audi cup win before the season started.

Regardless, I m not bothered with Spurs anymore and as United showedthey were not as potent in the attack when we typically meet you guys with Kane doing a great job disappearing against us and you guys only having one shot on target. Very sad that most Spurs fan went into hiding after that game :lol:

I don't know why you like to forget Tottenham teams before took over. He didn't take over some pub team. He took over internationals and lots of stars. He took over a club that was on way up with previous managers. He took over a attacking minded team that was fun to watch and a team that could win against anybody. Stop raising Poch to the sky and downgrading Tottenham before he came.

Look what he has won if you want to make him a top class manager? 0 trophies. Accomplished less than people think he has. Twice getting sacked (3 clubs).
 
And you're wrong, I like Ole's tactics much better than what Poch had ever tried to do even with Spurs. In fact, it's back to our roots, our identity, and it's the start of the 2008 team that we are going for, and I love that idea. I respect Ole for trying to do something as exceptional as that team.

We have the youngest squad ever and we are fixing problems one by one. It's going to come quick and fast.
I mean, none of our attackers are on the level of Rooney, ronaldo, tevez or berbatov. And our midfielders aren't great either, outside of Pogba
 
I think the key feature is that we have very few (if any) disruptive personalities, yet still a lot of talent.

That will have thrown him off, in a good way
Has danny rose played under Jose? Hope he googled Jose mourinho.
 
And you're wrong, I like Ole's tactics much better than what Poch had ever tried to do even with Spurs. In fact, it's back to our roots, our identity, and it's the start of the 2008 team that we are going for, and I love that idea. I respect Ole for trying to do something as exceptional as that team.

We have the youngest squad ever and we are fixing problems one by one. It's going to come quick and fast.

If anyone sets up like we did in 2008 it's probably Poch. Likes to play 4-2-3-1, likes to get the full-backs involved, likes strong individualists, has taken some promising youth products to great heights. He plays entertaining football and is probably the closest in setup to Fergie. Probably why Fergie likes Poch too.

If we're talking about what a good fit for us would be style-wise (we've always been known for attacking entertaining football since the Busby Babes), Poch's gotta be a candidate. I can't tell what Solskjærs tactics are when breaking middle teams down - Sometimes we simply fall short in creating enough chances, because we rarely flood the opponents areas with wing-backs and fast play, and I can only see what Solskjær is doing against big teams. We're piss-poor against midtablers.

We are fixing problems one by one - Yes probably, but we'd probably do that under any manager.
 
If anyone sets up like we did in 2008 it's probably Poch. Likes to play 4-2-3-1, likes to get the full-backs involved, likes strong individualists, has taken some promising youth products to great heights. He plays entertaining football and is probably the closest in setup to Fergie. Probably why Fergie likes Poch too.

If we're talking about what a good fit for us would be style-wise (we've always been known for attacking entertaining football since the Busby Babes), Poch's gotta be a candidate. I can't tell what Solskjærs tactics are when breaking middle teams down - Sometimes we simply fall short in creating enough chances, because we rarely flood the opponents areas with wing-backs and fast play, and I can only see what Solskjær is doing against big teams. We're piss-poor against midtablers.

We are fixing problems one by one - Yes probably, but we'd probably do that under any manager.
Think everybody will be brought down to earth when we struggle to beat everton this sunday.