A serious look at Mauricio Pochettino

This fascination with Pochettino, is not like he is some Pep that revolutionarised football.
With good club structure and planning, we can get good attacking coaches and change once in a while.
There is Favre, Tuchel and Zidane to name a few.
We should not be tunneled vision in believing he is the only available guy. That was the same mistake we made with the last grinch.
 
BlueHaze said:
I think you are wrong. We are screaming out for a manager like him and with the money he would be given combined with some of the players we already have he could potentially build a stronger team than this Spurs side. However he won't exactly make a mistake if he decides to stay at Tottenham either, which I believe is the most likely outcome of this story.
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He will have his level of ambition come into question if he is seen to turn down the two biggest football clubs on the planet (United and Real) in consecutive summers. Not to mention that he may never get the opportunity to manage at that level again. Then again, maybe he prefers to remain at a club where the pressure to win trophies is significantly less compared to the alternatives. It's a tricky situation to be in, he can't keep everyone sweet.

But he isn't stupid, he is staying tight-lipped on the whole thing in order to keep his options open.
 
GlastonSpur said:
No, such as Sanchez, Schwieny, Zlatan and others.
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Sanchez signed on a free.

Ibra signed on a free.

BFS signed for a whopping £8 million.

Three of the biggest names in the game who cost the club a grand total of £8 million.

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Add Martial to your list of washed-up players looking for a final payday. Or maybe not.
 
Rhyme Animal said:
... You've got a lovely little squad and a tidy manager, who if we choose to, we may appoint in the Summer - but always remember it's trophies that dictate whether a club that's competing has been successful or not.
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:lol: Good grief the unwarranted arrogance ...
 
Random Task said:
Sanchez signed on a free.

Ibra signed on a free.

BFS signed for a whopping £8 million.

Three of the biggest names in the game who cost the club a grand total of £8 million.
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We were talking about pay-days - i.e. wages - if you recall.
 
GlastonSpur said:
No, such as Sanchez, Schwieny, Zlatan and others.
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Zlatan is a big reason as to why we won two trophies in Mourinhos first season.
Not to mention he and Schweinsteiger have moved to a new club post United, and likely make a load of money.
Final pay day? No. Final chance at a European powerhouse? Yes.
 
This guy deserves a shot at at top club.

He must be excited to be the guy that gets the chance to make United great again.
 
Ban said:
This thread would be a nice one if it wasnt for one poster.
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Well, it would be nice in terms of United fans happily indulging in daydreams, that I'll grant you.

But it's better in the long run for you have at least some posters who provide a reality check. I don't expect my clear opinion that Pochettino won't be leaving Spurs to be popular on here, but then it isn't a popularity contest.

There have been plenty of United fans in this thread arrogantly proclaiming that if United want him they'll get him, plus others who have been quick to toss out personal insults (while I have not) when their views are disputed. I don't see that as being very "nice."
 
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Think deep down Pochettino wants the Man Utd Job. It's just the matter of dealing with Daniel Levy the tight git.
 
He has refused to deny the rumours, despite it being asked consistently, which at least proves he is considering his options. Don't think either parties - Spurs or United fans should be completely convinced of either possibility.
 
He move from Southampton to Tottenham. Of course he would move from Tottenham to Man United. It’s that simple.
 
Done deal if you ask me. The only scenario in which Pochettino won't get the job is if Ole wins us the Champions League. If I was a Spurs fan, i'd root for United to win the CL :D
 
He is a good I mean a real good attacking manager who also can develop players and youth too, he is also a positive guy and has a good read and eye for the game, but what worries me that he won nothing with a very good squad he built!
 
GlastonSpur said:
Well, it would be nice in terms of United fans happily indulging in daydreams, that I'll grant you.

But it's better in the long run for you have at least some posters who provide a reality check. I don't expect my clear opinion that Pochettino won't be leaving Spurs to be popular on here, but then it isn't a popularity contest.

There have been plenty of United fans in this thread arrogantly proclaiming that if United want him they'll get him, plus others who have been quick to toss out personal insults (while I have not) when their views are disputed. I don't see that as being very "nice."
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Sure there are a few over-zealous United fans in this thread, just as there are over-confident Spurs fans, but no one is as arrogant as you. Even in the face of overwhelming evidence - Poch refusing point-blank to quell the rumours - you're unprepared to accept that he just might be considering the move. You're the only Spurs fan in this thread who refuses to concede on this point, what does that tell you?

The truth is no one knows where Poch will be at the start of next season other than the man himself, so stop pretending you know him better than everyone else.

Admit it, you're ever-so-slightly concerned.
 
Was he quizzed about the Man Utd job at all today? Either pre or post game?
 
Random Task said:
Sure there are a few over-zealous United fans in this thread, just as there are over-confident Spurs fans, but no one is as arrogant as you. Even in the face of overwhelming evidence - Poch refusing point-blank to quell the rumours - you're unprepared to accept that he just might be considering the move. You're the only Spurs fan in this thread who refuses to concede on this point, what does that tell you?

The truth is no one knows where Poch will be at the start of next season other than the man himself, so stop pretending you know him better than everyone else.

Admit it, you're ever-so-slightly concerned.
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It tells me that I'm apparently the only Spurs fan in this thread who doesn't think that Pochettino is even considering a move to United. This doesn't mean my view is wrong.
 
oh christ is that glaston spur fan still in la la land thinking Spurs are a better prospect than United?
 
GlastonSpur said:
Well, it would be nice in terms of United fans happily indulging in daydreams, that I'll grant you.

But it's better in the long run for you have at least some posters who provide a reality check. I don't expect my clear opinion that Pochettino won't be leaving Spurs to be popular on here, but then it isn't a popularity contest.

There have been plenty of United fans in this thread arrogantly proclaiming that if United want him they'll get him, plus others who have been quick to toss out personal insults (while I have not) when their views are disputed. I don't see that as being very "nice."
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How did you know I meant you.:lol:
 
Don’t get those getting on to Glaston tbh. Considering the facts of what happens out on the pitch, he speaks far more truth and sense than most United fans do when it comes to matters pertaining to United/Spurs. In my humble opinion. Seems for the last few years the best we can come up with can be summarised as ‘we have more money than you’.

That said, for balance sake, the gap between us and Spurs is not as big as he makes it. The reality is the expectation is massively different between both clubs. We’ve won more trophies than them post-Fergie, finished ahead of them last season, and I’m pretty sure have at least an even head-to-head post Fergie. But they are clearly a better side, there has been no outflux lf talent, their manager has so far resisted temptation, and they have kept going in spite of spending less money than us.
 
Can’t help but realize that most of his attacking game plan is heavily dependent on Harry Kane’s surprisingly amazing hold up play up front. A lot of the chances they create is a long pass down the side or middle to son/Ali/Kane who more often than not have a knack on controlling a very difficult pass.

It’s not too unsimilar to Mourinhos set ups where he essentially relies on individual brilliance up front. I wouldn’t want to see that at United.

However, Pochettino seems like a much better man manager and will more often than not get the best out of individuals more so than Mourinho. For that reason alone I wouldn’t mind him here at United

Regarding if he would come or not. Why not? It’s spurs
 
Rozay said:
Don’t get those getting on to Glaston tbh. Considering the facts of what happens out on the pitch, he speaks far more truth and sense than most United fans do when it comes to matters pertaining to United/Spurs. In my humble opinion. Seems for the last few years the best we can come up with can be summarised as ‘we have more money than you’.

That said, for balance sake, the gap between us and Spurs is not as big as he makes it. The reality is the expectation is massively different between both clubs. We’ve won more trophies than them post-Fergie, finished ahead of them last season, and I’m pretty sure have at least an even head-to-head post Fergie. But they are clearly a better side, there has been no outflux lf talent, their manager has so far resisted temptation, and they have kept going in spite of spending less money than us.
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Good post. Agree with most of that.
 
Sir Scott McToMinay said:
Some in here are failing to grasp on how big of a pull Manchester United have got in Britain.
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I think that is a bit unfair tbh. I don't think anybody is really denying that Man Utd are a huge club or that they're bigger than Spurs. I don't think anybody is denying that Man Utd are a huge pull for lots of reasons.

Where I think some people are commenting is that life is a bit more complicated than just 'X club bigger so they must get everything they want'. While there are reasons to think Poch could go to Man Utd, there are also reasons to think he could stay at Spurs.

I think for instance he'll look at the career trajectory of three pretty esteemed managers (well...two esteemed managers and Moyes) after their stint and wonder whether the same may happen to him, especially as he is still a young manager.
His is a method that takes time and an allowance from the chairman to do with footballing matters as he wishes. So when he wants Adebayor sold, he's sold without discussion. When he benches Alderweireld for almost an entire season, whether for footballing reasons or not, Levy lets him do so. Would he be given the same leeway at Man Utd?
And if he were to finish 6th and trophyless first season....would he also get ceremoniously dumped?

Also, I guess the question is, if Man Utd is such an irresistible draw....why Poch? Why not Pep or Klopp or Allegri or Zidane or Ancelotti? Man Utd are huge after all and all of these managers have won at least a league title, if not a CL on top too.
 
I've had a bit of fun in this thread so far, but this is my take on the situation.

When the season closes, Poch will have 3 good offers on the table. All with their pros and cons.

Real Madrid
I'd say this is the riskiest option as it's the most cut throat job.
You're up against Barca and if you go the season without a trophy, be it the La liga title or the Champions league, you run a big risk of being sacked.
They've got a bit of a rebuild on their hands as they have some aging players, so the transition could be quite the pain for any manager who comes in.

On the flip side, you're taking over one of the biggest clubs in the world, with the best trophy collection.
It's a big job for a big person, that comes with a lot of pressure. Few survive it.

Man Utd
I actually thing this is the best risk / reward job of the three.
You come here, you're expected to deliver, but finishing in a respectable position won't get you fired. The longer you sit in the seat, the more that pressure would build, but for the first few seasons, if you manage to get CL football, you'll be safe.
You'd come to a squad that is already talented, that in my opinion have been held back, but we clearly have a very good foundation to build on. On top of that, we can offer the same sort of budget Real can offer to bring in the right players for his plan.
The reward comes with we are a club that wins trophies. We have the budget to compete, and if the man in charge does his job properly, there's no reason he can't win here

Spurs
This is the safest job of the three for me.
I don't think Levy is that expectant on trophies. Poch could finish top 4 for the next years, win nothing and would keep his job.
Not saying that's a bad thing, but it's definitely a safe job.
He's got a very good squad and with all the new amenities, he could definitely be a main figure in Spurs future success.

The biggest problem he faces, is the lack of financial power.
The budget to improve the squad. The wages to keep his players.
Not saying they are, but Spurs could be a bubble about to burst (I don't expect it btw)
Eriksen is digging his heels in. Toby doesn't want to sign and has a low buyout coming up. Both players could leave cheaply and replacing them isn't cheap. Is Levy ready to replace these players or would Poch have to find another gem and hope it works out?

My opinion
I think he has equal chance being at either of the 3 clubs by the start of next season.
As a United fan, I actually think the biggest risk of us not getting him would be him ending up at Real.
The positive for me is that I think the cut throat attitude at Real could put him off. At this point, I think we're to big of a club to turn down.

You can argue that Spurs have a better squad etc, but in reality, 2 years ago, we won the EL and League cup. Last season we finished above Spurs. This season, we've struggled, but I put that down to Jose, and I believe that is the reason why. In reality, we've had some of our worst years, yet I'd say we've been the more successful club in that period.
 
Since Glaston joined Redcafe Spurs have won 1 league cup.

Utd have won 5 Premier League titles, 1 FA Cup, 3 League Cups, 1 European Cup, 1 Europa League and 1 World Club World Cup.

Just mentioning facts.
 
WR10 said:
Can’t help but realize that most of his attacking game plan is heavily dependent on Harry Kane’s surprisingly amazing hold up play up front.
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Yes Spurs have a great first team, it's not like Pochettino is working with the Huddersfield squad. Having said that, for the outlay on the team comparitive to those in the top six it's small change.

Is there a team in Europe that would not want Kane?
 
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