#9 The Priority For Jose

I only want Griez... Pogba will be so sad like the rest of us. Woody get this sorted.
 
I really can't understand this obsession with Griezmann. We've got 4 players who are perfectly comfortable as no 10 (Mata, Mkhitaryan, Rooney and Fellaini) + 2 players whom I think are better off in the shadow striker position then on the flanks or as the lone striker (Rashford and Martial). And no, Im not taking the piss or got senile @Raoul . I dont think that Rooney and Fellaini aren't good enough. However they are still under contract, they can't be pushed out and we all know that Mou rates them.
 
devilish said:
I really can't understand this obsession with Griezmann. We've got 4 players who are perfectly comfortable as no 10 (Mata, Mkhitaryan, Rooney and Fellaini) + 2 players whom I think are better off in the shadow striker position then on the flanks or as the lone striker (Rashford and Martial). And no, Im not taking the piss or got senile @Raoul . I am aware that Rooney and Fellaini aren't good enough. However they are still under contract, they can't be pushed out and we all know that Mou rates them.
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You're on a roll. So tiresome.
 
unitedbhoy said:
You're on a roll. So tiresome.
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Im serious. This team is screaming for top quality wingers and with Ibra gone we need a top notch scorer. Lets add top quality players in those three positions and let us play Martial/Rashford behind a top striker. If it fails, we still have Mata, Mkhitaryan and Pogba who can play in that role.

Now if you or others disagree with that then by all means, let us discuss. But I don't think I should be thread banned for having a different opinion
 
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Kidders said:
We buy Lacazette and in 2018 when Athletico's transfer ban is lifted we swap him (+cash) for Griezman, or maybe he does well and we keep him ?
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Lacazette is comfortable as a second striker. We need someone who leads the line and score goals. Lets add some quality flank men + a proven goalscorer and then play Martial/Rashford in the SS role. If we need a no 10 then there's always Pogba, Mata and Mkhitaryan who can play there. FFS what's so silly with that?
 
I don't think we're spending 100m on Lukaku TBH. First of all, we'll probably add Rooney to the deal. Secondly, I doubt Mou would buy a player he allowed to leave. There again I might be wrong
 
devilish said:
Im serious. This team is screaming for top quality wingers and with Ibra gone we need a top notch scorer. Lets add top quality players in those three positions and let us play Martial/Rashford behind a top striker. If it fails, we still have Mata, Mkhitaryan and Pogba who can play in that role.

Now if you or others disagree with that then by all means, let us discuss. But I don't think I should be thread banned for having a different opinion
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I'd understand your point of view if it was September 1st, however the transfer window hasn't even opened. Rooney won't be here, and there is a possibility that Mata/Fellaini won't be a United player by that time either.

You're either on the wind up or extremely impatient.
 
If this is the case, then we should d whatever it takes to get Mbappe on board. He could be a historical player for us.
 
devilish said:
Lacazette is comfortable as a second striker. We need someone who leads the line and score goals. Lets add some quality flank men + a proven goalscorer and then play Martial/Rashford in the SS role. If we need a no 10 then there's always Pogba, Mata and Mkhitaryan who can play there. FFS what's so silly with that?
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Lacazette has been played as a lead striker for three years now.
 
devilish said:
Lacazette is comfortable as a second striker. We need someone who leads the line and score goals. Lets add some quality flank men + a proven goalscorer and then play Martial/Rashford in the SS role. If we need a no 10 then there's always Pogba, Mata and Mkhitaryan who can play there. FFS what's so silly with that?
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Lacazette leads the line and is very good at it. Don't let his height and speed distract you from the other good qualities he has as a lone striker.
 
Keeps It tidy said:
I think we should go after Lacazette. I think he is the best striker on the market.
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Agree we should go for him, not necessarily the best on the market, though. Still, he is most definitely available, plus supposedly for only 50mil (to Athletico). Better value than Belotti & probably Moratta. Not that 'value' really matters, but I don't think we should be paying so much for potential vs results. Belotti could easily be a 1 hit wonder, while Moratta is still more about potential.
 
RooneyLegend said:
If this is the case, then we should d whatever it takes to get Mbappe on board. He could be a historical player for us.
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If we do that , in few years we again find ourselves in madrid mess. Firstly we should focus on getting the best out of our phenomenal young talents.
 
redNATION said:
I do think Martial will be deployed as a no9 more often next season, Jose clearly doesnt trust him defensively on the left. That means we have Martial, Rashford, and another no9 to come in. It means we need two wingers to come in, as I have little faith in Mkhi or Mata on the right, and can't see who would play on the left if Martial doesnt.
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That's exactly what I think. Mou loves wingers who can backtrack. Martial/Rashford are top quality players but they aren't that sort of players + they aren't yet ready to lead the line. I can see Mourinho getting a top striker who can score goals and play Martial/Rashford at his back. Freed from their defensive duties + by not being constantly marked as the lone striker is they will be able to exploit the space left by marking the main striker and score. If plan a fails there's always Pogba, Mkhitaryan and Mata who are perfectly comfortable as no 10s
 
Mister_Stubbs said:
Unless we are willing to break the bank for either Lewandowski or Kane then whoever we get won't be a big upgrade on what we currently have.

Out of the three being linked I'd rather Lukaku, at least he is proven in this league.
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I think this is the logic we should have, too much of us just want signings for signings sake. If we can't get someone who isn't in the top few in the world, would rather we don't pay through the nose for an 'ok' player and use Ibra, Rashford, Martial as a 9.
 
unitedbhoy said:
Lacazette leads the line and is very good at it. Don't let his height and speed distract you from the other good qualities he has as a lone striker.
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I hope you're right as he's a 'gettable' player. However I share @Devil may care opinion that Mou likes a striker who is physically strong, whose decent in air and can hold the play. Can Lacazette do that?
 
devilish said:
Lacazette is comfortable as a second striker. We need someone who leads the line and score goals. Lets add some quality flank men + a proven goalscorer and then play Martial/Rashford in the SS role. If we need a no 10 then there's always Pogba, Mata and Mkhitaryan who can play there. FFS what's so silly with that?
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I would love to see it but I can't see Jose buying two wingers and a #9, but IF he did who would suggest ?
 
He'll probably still come but I do think Griezmann is the signing that everyone thinks will change our fortunes going forward but will likely not have the answers we hope for.

If he wants a 9 then just bust the bank for Kane and get it over with.
 
Is Cavani a viable option? I think he's the typical Mou's striker. He won't win us the CL, but for PL title, he might be.
 
unitedbhoy said:
I'd understand your point of view if it was September 1st, however the transfer window hasn't even opened. Rooney won't be here, and there is a possibility that Mata/Fellaini won't be a United player by that time either.

You're either on the wind up or extremely impatient.
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I agree that there's every chance that Fellaini/Rooney will leave. If I was a betting man I'd place my bid on them leaving. However they are both on high salary and on a decent contract. Very few clubs can match that salary (we tried to sell Fellaini to AC Milan and Napoli before and they refused to foot that salary all by themselves) and its hard to persuade a player to take a pay cut. If they want to dig their heels they can and will remain here.

That's the reason I am so against giving oldish/average player long contracts/big salaries
 
Isotope said:
Is Cavani a viable option? I think he's the typical Mou's striker. He won't win us the CL, but for PL title, he might be.
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I doubt PSG would let him go at a respectable price, age considered and such.
 
Morata would be a very underwhelming transfer IMO. He's good but not great and I'd prefer a more dynamic forward.
 
That tweet tweet doesn't really make sense. We need a goalscorer. It's irrelevant whether it's a 9 or a second striker or whatever. And Griezmann is miles better than any striker we can sign this summer. Unless we've got a true gem in the works, only an idiot would cool interest in Griezmann to focus on the likes Morata and Lukaku.
 
Icardi, anyone? 5'11, 24 years old and 24 goals this season.

He'd be big money, but not as big as Lukaku.
 
@Raoul @antohan agree with you guys, plus the alternative options are not good enough for us to back out of this Griezmann deal.
 
Kidders said:
I would love to see it but I can't see Jose buying two wingers and a #9, but IF he did who would suggest ?
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I think that we've been far too narrow and slow in our build ups this season. That's something even the guys at sky noticed. Mou had tried to compensate to that by playing Rashford on the flanks. However, lets be honest, the boy has great potential but he's not a winger.

Id say Mou will try and add Perisic to the team. He's the closest thing there is to his beloved Willian, ie a hardworking winger who tend to hug the touchline and is equally comfortable cutting inside. Bernardeschi is quite good too. He's physical, hardworking and has quite a good eye to goal
 
Belotti would be fantastic, he was absolutely lethal for the vast majority of the season, Torino didn't have a fantastic end to the season, but even then when he wasn't scoring or playing particularly well he was running his bollox off for 90 minutes. A goal every 99 minutes is amazing.
 
devilish said:
I think that we've been far too narrow and slow in our build ups this season. That's something even the guys at sky noticed. Mou had tried to compensate to that by playing Rashford on the flanks. However, lets be honest, the boy has great potential but he's not a winger.

Id say Mou will try and add Perisic to the team. He's the closest thing there is to his beloved Willian, ie a hardworking winger who tend to hug the touchline and is equally comfortable cutting inside. Bernardeschi is quite good too. He's physical, hardworking and has quite a good eye to goal
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Totally agree with more width being needed, two problems for me, not sure about the quality of wide players available (although I would take Willian), secondly we would need to seriously consider letting a few leave, Mata, Rooney (I know) Martial maybe, Lingard maybe ?
Plus you never mentioned a #9
 
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