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get the feck in. That was an amazing last 10 minutes.Ref made a name for himself there as no arguements over the sin binnings but some of his penalties at the scrum were complete crap at times. He was too keen to penalise anything at the scrum it was inevitable that it would end up catching up to whichever team he thought was the worst at giving the penalties away.
Well done to Wales for the fightback but something needs to be done about the scrums, as 2nd week in a row where i am left scratching my head as to exactly what was worng with the majority of ones he was penalising Scotland for as you couldn't tell even when they showed replays of who exactly did what.
Well done to Wales for the fightback but something needs to be done about the scrums, as 2nd week in a row where i am left scratching my head as to exactly what was worng with the majority of ones he was penalising Scotland for as you couldn't tell even when they showed replays of who exactly did what.
What a great ending now for the France and Ireland game good stuff.
Fooking class stuff there :-)
French look powerful...
France play like this even the All Blacks will struggle.
As I Type this Ireland back in it with a try.
As I Type this Ireland back in it with a try.
They should go on and do the Grand Slam now. Ireland need to regroup for the triple crown games.....
Jesus that was tough on Ireland but it was their own doing. They should have scored one if not two tried before France registered a score and that would have changed the whole game as France are not known for fightbacks and the French crowd are known to get on their backs. Then ridiculous mistakes by Healy and Flannery (how he didn't get sinbinned for that I'll never know) let France in and once they were ahead, there was no turning back. Then Ireland got an inch to the line again in the dying parts of the first half but couldn't finish it off and that was that. Terrible performance but at the same time, they could have won it. Seeing the likes of Wallace and O'Driscoll knocking on the ball is very rare. Healy getting sinbinned really fecked us up as it meant Ferris had to be subbed to get the other prop on, Court, for those ten odd minutes.
The loss off Kearney was massive but hopefully it's not a serious injury. It was ridiculous having Wallace on the bench and not Horgan. There was no need for Wallace on the bench with Sexton already on it.
O'Leary was shocking with his kicking. The worst thing to do is kick the ball to France over and over again as they are so good on the counter. Also, he was poor at the end of the first half and his poor decision probably prevented the try.
Shocking and disappointing. I did not think Ireland had much of a chance in Paris to be honest, but I expected more from certain players. The result could have been so much better, but the mistakes made were woeful and inexcusable.
As for the Wales Scotland match, Scotland were robbed. They dominated the match for 65+ minutes and deserved to win. That's the way it goes sometimes. They took the foot off the pedal and tried to wind the clock down when another couple of scores (which they were more than capable of doing) would have completely killed off the Welsh.
Anyway, if France don't win the Grand Slam, I'll be shocked. I can't see England turning them over to be honest, nor the Welsh who have been extremely poor in their two matches so far.
Ireland need to regroup for Twikenham but that was a real kick in the stones today and I'd wonder if they can recover in time, especially with the likes of Kearney possibly being out and Flannery possibly being banned for an atrocious tackle.
The loss off Kearney was massive but hopefully it's not a serious injury. It was ridiculous having Wallace on the bench and not Horgan. There was no need for Wallace on the bench with Sexton already on it.
O'Leary was shocking with his kicking. The worst thing to do is kick the ball to France over and over again as they are so good on the counter. Also, he was poor at the end of the first half and his poor decision probably prevented the try.
Shocking and disappointing. I did not think Ireland had much of a chance in Paris to be honest, but I expected more from certain players. The result could have been so much better, but the mistakes made were woeful and inexcusable.
As for the Wales Scotland match, Scotland were robbed. They dominated the match for 65+ minutes and deserved to win. That's the way it goes sometimes. They took the foot off the pedal and tried to wind the clock down when another couple of scores (which they were more than capable of doing) would have completely killed off the Welsh.
Anyway, if France don't win the Grand Slam, I'll be shocked. I can't see England turning them over to be honest, nor the Welsh who have been extremely poor in their two matches so far.
Ireland need to regroup for Twikenham but that was a real kick in the stones today and I'd wonder if they can recover in time, especially with the likes of Kearney possibly being out and Flannery possibly being banned for an atrocious tackle.
The All Blacks wouldn't have made those terrible mistakes that the Irish did though to let the French in. Saying that, when France did get anywhere close to the Irish 22, they were absolutely clinical.
Ireland were awful today, architects of their own down fall. The first French try basically came from Flannery's stupid kick out leading to the penalty being reversed. They got set up for another try when Keith Earls rushed taking the penalty after a mark and knocked on. Just so many basic mistakes. Even the Irish try was questionable, I'm fairly sure there was a forward pass. Needs to be much better if they're to beat the English.
very poor today by the irish , the amount of errors was very frustrating to watch.
Need to vastly improve if we are to turn england over at twickenham.
Need to vastly improve if we are to turn england over at twickenham.
England were shit just then.
Terrible from England today there gonna get a beating from the Irish and French if they play like that.
Kidney seems to be expermenting with this drift defence we'd all but perfected in the last couple of years, mixed with the rugby league thing of breaking your line to try intercept the ball. That's all well and good against teams that are a bit static, but against France, it was shown to be pretty naive. The amount of times a skip pass would have put us in trouble was criminal. If it continues the way it is expect a few reasonably high scoring games with a breakaway try or two for good measure. Let's just hope we're on the right side of it.
cant pick a winner between England and Ireland. Both were Rubbish this weekend
Why couldn't England play like that against Wales... 
Flannery cited. Not exactly a surprise, the big idiot.
BBC Sport - Rugby Union - Jerry Flannery cited over incident with Alexis Palisson
BBC Sport - Rugby Union - Jerry Flannery cited over incident with Alexis Palisson
To be fair, it will be a deserved ban. Stupid. Kearney is a much bigger loss though even though he isn't playing well at the moment. Rory Best can cover for Flannery but I doubt he can play the full match.
Same as. It doesn't seem to be about who plays the best next week. It seems that it will really come down to who plays the worst! Both were diabolical at the weekend.
we will need the lads on their best to get a result in twickenham
no kearney or flannery becasue you can be sure Jerry will get 12 weeks or more in a ban.
sexton i'd say will come back in.
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agreed what a total fool ! He is overatred anyway !
Yea I'd like to see Sexton back in. I thought O'Gara's decision making was pretty poor against France. O'Leary was shocking though.
Yeah agreed ! but it doesnt change the fact that Ireland have (and have allways had !!) a mind set problem with ceratin teams (France being one of them. )! They must start to believe that they can win all games no matter who they are playing ! So what if its France,away ! New Zealand etc etc They are only 15 men ! ...If they can beat them last year they could have beat them this year.
And as far as im concerned Jerry Flannery should be puninshed not only (by the IRFU) but have a real long ban for his very stupid and mindless kicking attack. By his stupid actions he not only reversed a pen that could have given the team a boost and maybe have changed the game ? but he directly caused the French to take the advantage of the situation(something you need not do especially with the French !! Sometimes It takes little things like this to win or lose games ! Personally i think hes overated and I think Best is a better line out thrower and scrummager so hopefully he can show this against England who are also very poor but that is not because they have poor players .Because England have a endless supply of players to choose from and with a population of around 50 million you wonder if they couldnt do better ? It is because Martin Johnson (who i must say i cant feckin stand !) is a total and utter bully and a real control freak ..basicly he wants to dominate everything to the last detail even if its other peoples responsibilty ..He chooses a Captain that he can dominate so nobody stands up to him and as long as England have this man in charge they will have no leaders on the pitch !!!
so long may this continue ! lol
And as far as im concerned Jerry Flannery should be puninshed not only (by the IRFU) but have a real long ban for his very stupid and mindless kicking attack. By his stupid actions he not only reversed a pen that could have given the team a boost and maybe have changed the game ? but he directly caused the French to take the advantage of the situation(something you need not do especially with the French !! Sometimes It takes little things like this to win or lose games ! Personally i think hes overated and I think Best is a better line out thrower and scrummager so hopefully he can show this against England who are also very poor but that is not because they have poor players .Because England have a endless supply of players to choose from and with a population of around 50 million you wonder if they couldnt do better ? It is because Martin Johnson (who i must say i cant feckin stand !) is a total and utter bully and a real control freak ..basicly he wants to dominate everything to the last detail even if its other peoples responsibilty ..He chooses a Captain that he can dominate so nobody stands up to him and as long as England have this man in charge they will have no leaders on the pitch !!!
so long may this continue ! lol
RTÉ Sport: Flannery banned for rest of Six Nations
flannery banned for 6 weeks for his tomfoolery!!
have to say i thought he would get more of a ban meself. But he does miss the rest of the championship.
Silly Boy
flannery banned for 6 weeks for his tomfoolery!!
have to say i thought he would get more of a ban meself. But he does miss the rest of the championship.
Silly Boy
He's probably fortunate to get just that. I bet if you asked him what was going though his mind at the time he wouldn't be able to tell you, inexplicable action really!
yeah it was just a crazy thing to do. He is fortunate not to get a 12 weeks ban .
Does the ban include "club" rugby also?
Yep, it does. Unless of course he goes the French route and tries to use the courts to overrule the ban. Then it wasn't something simple like, say trying to rip Stephen Ferris' eye out of its socket, twice!
I know it isn't 6 nation news but Cipriani has agreed to move to Melbourne Rebel in the super 14s.
BBC Sport - Rugby Union - Danny Cipriani to leave Wasps and join Melbourne Rebels
BBC Sport - Rugby Union - Danny Cipriani to leave Wasps and join Melbourne Rebels
I'm unsure about this for him
Could be good, as I'm certain the style of play will help him, but he's closed the door on England for a few seasons, I know it's as much Johnson closing it on him.
I do wonder how much longer Johnson will have
Could be good, as I'm certain the style of play will help him, but he's closed the door on England for a few seasons, I know it's as much Johnson closing it on him.
I do wonder how much longer Johnson will have
Yeah I agree im unsure but as you said about young players before if he were from France, Australia or New Zealand I'm sure he would be touted as a future star of next years World Cup and get in given a chance. Johnson just won't have any of it. Along with Foden or Geraghty England have great young talents but under the current England set up seems they won't get a chance.
As someone said on the BBC 606 forum "England's management of young players is and has been appalling for many years and certainly one could highlight several players since 2003 who have not been used properly - we seem incapapable of bringing youth through to fulfil their potential. We just have to look and a couple of the curent players now to see just how bad we are this - Geraghty, Cipriani, Foden, Strettle, Simpson-Daniel and so on."
As someone said on the BBC 606 forum "England's management of young players is and has been appalling for many years and certainly one could highlight several players since 2003 who have not been used properly - we seem incapapable of bringing youth through to fulfil their potential. We just have to look and a couple of the curent players now to see just how bad we are this - Geraghty, Cipriani, Foden, Strettle, Simpson-Daniel and so on."
Can't they get Johnson to move to Australia?
Teams for the England/Ireland game.
England team : D Armitage (London Irish); Mark Cueto (Sale), Mathew Tait (Sale), Riki Flutey (Brive), Ugo Monye (Harlequins); Jonny Wilkinson (Toulon), Danny Care (Harlequins); Tim Payne (Wasps), Dylan Hartley (Northampton), Dan Cole (Leicester), Simon Shaw (Wasps), Steve Borthwick (Saracens, captain), James Haskell (Stade Francais), Lewis Moody (Leicester), Nick Easter (Harlequins).
Replacements: Lee Mears (Bath), David Wilson (Bath), Louis Deacon (Leicester), Joe Worsley (Wasps), Paul Hodgson (London Irish), Toby Flood (Leicester), Ben Foden (Northampton).
Ireland: G Murphy (Leicester), T Bowe (Ospreys), B O'Driscoll (Leinster) capt, G D'Arcy (Leinster), K Earls (Munster), J Sexton (Leinster), T O'Leary (Munster), C Healy (Leinster), R Best (Ulster), J Hayes (Munster), D O'Callaghan (Munster), P O'Connell (Munster), S Ferris (Ulster), D Wallace (Munster), J Heaslip (Leinster).
Replacements: S Cronin (Connacht), T Buckley (Munster), L Cullen (Leinster), S Jennings (Leinster), E Reddan (Leinster), R O'Gara (Munster), A Trimble (Ulster)
England team : D Armitage (London Irish); Mark Cueto (Sale), Mathew Tait (Sale), Riki Flutey (Brive), Ugo Monye (Harlequins); Jonny Wilkinson (Toulon), Danny Care (Harlequins); Tim Payne (Wasps), Dylan Hartley (Northampton), Dan Cole (Leicester), Simon Shaw (Wasps), Steve Borthwick (Saracens, captain), James Haskell (Stade Francais), Lewis Moody (Leicester), Nick Easter (Harlequins).
Replacements: Lee Mears (Bath), David Wilson (Bath), Louis Deacon (Leicester), Joe Worsley (Wasps), Paul Hodgson (London Irish), Toby Flood (Leicester), Ben Foden (Northampton).
Ireland: G Murphy (Leicester), T Bowe (Ospreys), B O'Driscoll (Leinster) capt, G D'Arcy (Leinster), K Earls (Munster), J Sexton (Leinster), T O'Leary (Munster), C Healy (Leinster), R Best (Ulster), J Hayes (Munster), D O'Callaghan (Munster), P O'Connell (Munster), S Ferris (Ulster), D Wallace (Munster), J Heaslip (Leinster).
Replacements: S Cronin (Connacht), T Buckley (Munster), L Cullen (Leinster), S Jennings (Leinster), E Reddan (Leinster), R O'Gara (Munster), A Trimble (Ulster)
this match should be a cracker!
I hope Ireland wipe the floor with england!!
Nothing sweeter than beating england in their own garden!
How in the name of feck did O'Leary manage to keep his place? He was shocking against France. Also somewhat unfortunate that Cullen lost his place. I don't rate him particularly highly, but one of Kidney's mantras is that the form player gets the game.
I just hope we (England) run it back, the kicking was so boring against Italy, and what made it worse was that it was so bad.
With a back three of Cueto, Monye and Armitage, there is enough pace and quality to surely be able to pick out a forward in the defensive line and leave them for dead and get in behind
With a back three of Cueto, Monye and Armitage, there is enough pace and quality to surely be able to pick out a forward in the defensive line and leave them for dead and get in behind
Looking forward to tonight's game, I know Roberts is 12 and Basteraud 13, but I think we'll see Roberts given the responsibility to defend the 13 channel at times
And that will be some battle between those two
And that will be some battle between those two
yeah I think that will be a bruiser.
If France win tonight I cant see them being stopped doing the Grand Slam
God forbid I would have to cheer for England when they face france
The Welsh have made a habbit of throwing away matches. They just about handed the French 3 tries. The French were rubbish.
The Welsh have got to be one of the fittest around, they looked so fresh and France looked on the ropes. They could and perhaps should have won it, despite the two intercept tries.