well that was bollocks, Alun Wyn Jones sin bin cost Wales 17 points, if it wasn't for that England wouldn't have won the game. Now watch the Media wank all over England saying that they will now go for the Grand Slam!
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I disagree there are always many what ifs but I think England would have won the game anyway. England are not gonna win the Grand Slam the media know that but they did ok.
I liked the kits England had but its only this 1 game.
I liked the kits England had but its only this 1 game.
I thought the England kit was quality today, no sponsor, no swoosh, old style badge, button collar... class.
But England failed to create any chances. Yes they took their chances but what did they create? They battled for 5 mins to score through the forwards before half time, but a simple pass out to the backs and they would have scored easy, no wonder Cueto was so pissed.
Looking good for France after that today! Ireland were asleep, Wales beat by England. It would really piss me of if those frog eating feckers win this!
15-6 France at half time and some tries saved by Scotland plus a chance to score a try ourselves but we dropped the bloody ball arrrrgggghhhhh
France do look good though, killing Scotland in the scrum.
On one of your chances to score, Harinordoquy got called for a penalty early on in the game, the ref told him to let go, and Scotland had good pressure on France, I'd make that a yellow card offence, it was just so blatant
On one of your chances to score, Harinordoquy got called for a penalty early on in the game, the ref told him to let go, and Scotland had good pressure on France, I'd make that a yellow card offence, it was just so blatant
It is times like those you wish the refs were more strict and awarded a penalty try, as he was clearly warned yet still did it. If we had a decent scrum today we wouldn't be in as much pressure.
Latest Odds for the Triple Crown are a bit odd
Ireland 3.05
England 3.1
Scotland 23.0
No Winner 2.96
Ireland 3.05
England 3.1
Scotland 23.0
No Winner 2.96
Really? I think it looked very smart.
Ah sure it's only a matter of opinion. I wouldn't be able to buy it anyway, it'd be impossible to keep clean.
Agreed ! very nervous and played with lack of passion ! better when the replacements came on but the front row are generally not as it should be ...hence why big John hayes is still the best front row forward at 30 something Flannery loves himself too much and is well overated and healy had afair game but hasnt shown too much yet however he is promising ?
i think one problem is with ROG his distribution and defence is poor and i hope Sexton plays against the frogs ..........(who this time are allowed to use there f**ckin hands !
...It will be a tight game but i can see Ireland winning it !.and why not !!! its a matter of confidence and to belief that you can do it and they should take a leaf out of Uniteds book in matters of a will to win and never give up ! Come on Ireland ! lets beat these chesse eating surrender monkeys !
Agreed ! very nervous and played with lack of passion ! better when the replacements came on but the front row are generally not as it should be ...hence why big John hayes is still the best front row forward at 30 something Flannery loves himself too much and is well overated and healy had afair game but hasnt shown too much yet however he is promising ?
i think one problem is with ROG his distribution and defence is poor and i hope Sexton plays against the frogs ..........(who this time are allowed to use there f**ckin hands !
Come on Ireland ! lets beat these chesse eating surrender monkeys !
Clearly you have a huge knowledge of Irish Rugby. John Hayes is no where near the best front row forward. Best scrummager maybe, but not best front row forward. Unfortunately we are having a shortage of good tight head props at the moment but Tom Court willl emerge soon as being a real contender. The best front row forward we have is still Jerry Flannery or Marcus Horan. I doubt flannery loves himself too much or is over rated, if it weren't for injury he would have been the starting hooker for the lions in the summer. He has done well to lose a few kg's and was one of the better performers at the weekend. What you have failed to take into consideration was the power and reputation of the italian front row, scrummaging is the only area they are truely competitve on the world stage and they showed this at the weekend. However they also did the same to NZ in the summer.
ROG, even though I can't stand the twat for personal reasons I think its pretty foolish to call into question his distribution and defence especially since he has gathered 90+ caps, expecailly when Sexton is largely unproven. When sexton gets a few games under his belt and teams start realising how to play him we will see how bright a shining light he really is. But I for one would rather have ROG defending a harinordoquy crash ball than sexton.
Its all too easy to say we played with a lack of pride and passion, but the fact is the Italians spoiled the ball constantly and we were just shit, we had a shit day, it happens, it always does when you havent played together for 2-3 months. But I tell you what Id rather go to paris on the back of that performance rather than having mauled the italians. A few of the lads like kearny (who was awful - unusually) will have a poker up ther ass this week and they will hit the pitch even stronger and harder next week.
I think that is the one thing you can criticise ROG on. His defence is awful. I'd still want him to be the outhalf given a decisive kick in the last minute, but I would imagine even he would admit his defence is poor. His tackling technique is terrible for one. He puts his head forward for first impact quite often. He's quite often targeted by opposing teams as an easy channel, for example the Lions during the summer.
I do agree, I should have made that clear, sorry. But his distribution cannot really be called into question IMO. I mean does any one else remember Eric Elwood? now that was a guy with shite distribution. Barring Humphries (sr) ROG has been the number 1 fly half for a decade. Yes he has had some shit games in those 10 years but he has also had some crackers. Im not his biggest fan, infact I prefer watching sexton play, but ROG deserves his place in the team and im not going to start knocking his game based on the Italy game. Finally though we have a coach who is not afraid to make changes and to break the mould with selection so let us see what he does this weekend.
Other point,
If ferris isn't injured he must start against the French in place of McClaughlin. Ferris wil add that extra punch in the forwards and in the loose.
What did you all think of Darcy's performance this weekend?
England team for Italy;
England team: Delon Armitage (London Irish); Mark Cueto (Sale), Mathew Tait (Sale), Riki Flutey (Brive), Ugo Monye (Harlequins); Jonny Wilkinson (Toulon), Danny Care (Harlequins); Tim Payne (Wasps), Dylan Hartley (Northampton), Dan Cole (Leicester), Simon Shaw (Wasps), Steve Borthwick (Saracens, captain), James Haskell (Stade Francais), Lewis Moody (Leicester), Nick Easter (Harlequins).
Good that Flutey is back.
But disappointed that he chose to send Lawes back to his club, perhaps he's injured and I'm doing him a disservice, but Deacon has had his chances and not really offered anything.
England team: Delon Armitage (London Irish); Mark Cueto (Sale), Mathew Tait (Sale), Riki Flutey (Brive), Ugo Monye (Harlequins); Jonny Wilkinson (Toulon), Danny Care (Harlequins); Tim Payne (Wasps), Dylan Hartley (Northampton), Dan Cole (Leicester), Simon Shaw (Wasps), Steve Borthwick (Saracens, captain), James Haskell (Stade Francais), Lewis Moody (Leicester), Nick Easter (Harlequins).
Good that Flutey is back.
But disappointed that he chose to send Lawes back to his club, perhaps he's injured and I'm doing him a disservice, but Deacon has had his chances and not really offered anything.
Ferris is a cracking player, undoubted first choice if he is fit to play. As for Darcy, I thought it was an efficient if underwhelming performance against Italy. Good defensively as always, very few line breaks or even attempted line breaks from what I can recall. He also rarely seems to play well for more than one half of a game; I can't think of him ever having a good full 80 minutes. That said, I would still choose him ahead of Paddy Wallace, and any other current contenders for centre. Earls is a long way off being good enough to play centre internationally, and to be honest I think he'd benefit from playing a full season in the As (I refuse to call them Wolfhounds, like I refuse to call Lansdowne the Aviva - marketing nonsense!), I was surprised he was picked to start against France. I can't see it working out.
Here's the two teams by the way:
Ireland
15 - Rob Kearney (UCD/Leinster)
14 - Tommy Bowe (Ospreys)
13 - Brian O'Driscoll (UCD/Leinster) (capt)
12 - Gordon D'Arcy (Lansdowne/Leinster)
11 - Keith Earls (Young Munster/Munster)
10 - Ronan O'Gara (Cork Constitution/Munster)
9 - Tomas O'Leary (Dolphin/Munster)
1 - Cian Healy (Clontarf/Leinster)
2 - Jerry Flannery (Shannon/Munster)
3 - John Hayes (Bruff/Munster)
4 - Leo Cullen (Blackrock College/Leinster)
5 - Paul O'Connell (Young Munster/Munster)
6 - A.N.Other
7 - David Wallace (Garryowen/Munster)
8 - Jamie Heaslip (Naas/Leinster)
France
15 - C Poitrenaud (Toulouse)
14 - V Clerc (Toulouse)
13 - M Bastareaud (Stade Francais)
12 - Y Jauzion (Toulouse)
11 - A Palisson (Brive)
10 - F Trinh-Duc (Montpellier)
9 - M Parra (Clermont)
1 - T Domingo (Clermont)
2 - W Servat (Toulouse)
3 - N Mas (Perpignan)
4 - L Nallet (Racing Metro)
5 - P Pape (Stade Francais)
6 - T Dusautoir (Toulouse)
7 - F Ouedraogo (Montpellier)
8 - I Harinordoquy (Biarritz)
Going for over £150 on ebay too.
Suddenly not so keen on the idea of wanting to buy one
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So France v Ireland then.....Is it the crunch game in the whole tournament? Whoever wins this will surely win the championship, right?
Just want to canvas some views.....
Just want to canvas some views.....
I wouldn't go that far, England beat France last season and weren't a million miles away from beating Ireland (14-13 Ireland), having two players sin-binned
More than likely that the winner of this match will win the title, and the Grand Slam, but it's far from a certainty, in fact, I think England, Ireland and France will all finish on 4 wins
I don't know, the French calling the Irish cheats, what next, Scotland scoring a try!
big game alright. our run of form in Paris isn't great but if we win here I'd say we can take the whole thing.
and for US based fans, the game is live on BBC America at 11:30am tomorrow, for free! beats having to fork out $20 to Setanta.
and for US based fans, the game is live on BBC America at 11:30am tomorrow, for free! beats having to fork out $20 to Setanta.
On another note It's good to see Leo Cullen retain his place (even though O'Callaghan's injured). He didn't do much wrong last week and against this French team it will always be good to have his experience and leadership in the team
very true about Leo
He deserves it. Big test for us today.
How I would love to smash the french!!
Revenge (of sorts) for Henry. COME ON IRELAND!!!!!
Ireland, Wales and England to win today - 3/1
Worth a punt?
Worth a punt?
It's not bad
Wales and England should be overwhelming favourites for their games and it will be a big upset should either of them lose, so in effect, you're getting 3/1 on Ireland to win
Which isn't bad to be fair, as I see that game as something of a coin-flip, maybe France marginal favourites
Come on Scotland we should have had another try there and that was an awful pass forward sighs
Great performance by the Scots so far...
upset coming I think!!!
Come on Scotland hold on
Rugby, bloody hell !!
What a comeback for the Welsh.
What a comeback for the Welsh.
Absofeckinlutely incredible stuff.
What a fecking idiot getting carded. Scotland were much the better side.
get the feck in!!!!!
amazing comeback!!!!
amazing comeback!!!!
What a fecking great ending. Glad I caught that.
Great finish, but feck me the Welsh are lucky bastards....
well done wales, but scotland!! Oh dear!!