3-4-3 Aint it.

[RedDevilCanuck]

Needs too many specific skill sets. does Amorim have an alternative? He needs to start winning games and perhaps deviating from his plan.

I'm not saying sack Amorim, I'm saying he needs try something else. Bringing in 10 new players isn't going to happen.

 

[Flying high]

Look at it this way: It will be an easy win for the next guy to bring us back to the 'United way'. It will lift the mood for literally hours.

 

[TheGame]

The problem with 4-2-3-1 under ETH was the tactics. The system is still the best for us. It suits our players better.

 

[Unam333]

Needs too many specific skill sets. does Amorim have an alternative? He needs to start winning games and perhaps deviating from his plan.

I'm not saying sack Amorim, I'm saying he needs try something else. Bringing in 10 new players isn't going to happen.

The issue is will he get the trust of the board to get his players for his 343 formation?

 

[Bastian]

I can think of at least 15 players who ain't it.

 

[1988]

I'm all for a 343 / 3421 but this 541 can piss off.

 

[NoLogo]

Formations aren't our problem, we have tried them all now, we are still shite.

 

[Jev]

It’s so obvious. I don’t know why so many posters are lying to themselves. He needs to bin it now.

 

[rajds89]

95% of this squad, ain’t it.

 

[jamesjimmybyrondean]

It’s certainly exposing the flaws of several players and how limited they are

Martinez not being good at defending the wide chnnels

Bruno not being good in tight spaces or ball
carrying or ball retention

Our wingers not being good in tight spaces as well as chance creation

Our full backs utterly lacking in the final third

These are all problems that have been brought up from time to time but this system somehow brings them all together at the same time

 

[Bojan11]

It doesn’t work with our current players.

Dalot is shit going forward. Bruno isn’t athletic enough. We have no options going forward. I have no idea why he changed Amad from wing back to a number 10.

 

[evil_geko]

People think this is FIFA where everything depends on a formation ffs.

3-4-3 is fine.

 

[pratyush_utd]

It doesn’t work with our current players.

Dalot is shit going forward. Bruno isn’t athletic enough. We have no options going forward. I have no idea why he changed Amad from wing back to a number 10.

Nothing works with our current players.

Its not the system

 

[bosnian_red]

It's not the formation that's the problem, as shown by even worse performances playing in a 4231

 

[Nep77]

I'm all for a 343 / 3421 but this 541 can piss off.

Same, we are playing 5 at the back right now and was baffling it was kept that way until upto 80 minutes when we were man down.

 

[SER19]

Neither was 4231. Or 433. Or anything else. Our players are mentally weak, physically weak, cowards and that's what the club is.

 

[Annihilate Now!]

Neither is any formation when you've got this useless bunch of cnuts.

Funny thing is, we concede all our goals from set plays, which has zero to do with formation.

 

[Bojan11]

Nothing works with our current players.

Its not the system

Maybe but we not helping ourselves by starting 6 defensive players in the line up. It’s overkill.

 

[AjaxCunian]

People think this is FIFA where everything depends on a formation ffs.

3-4-3 is fine.

We don't play 343.

It's 5221 or 541, and it's crap.

Doesnt help that all our players are also crap/in very bad form/low confidence.

 

[V.O.]

I'm all for a 343 / 3421 but this 541 can piss off.

This. We just played five defenders and did absolutely nothing in an attacking sense until the changes.

Amad and Antony have shown they link up really well and both have the workrate to offer something defensively. Start both of them and put Maz/Salot LWB if you have to.

 

[Gordon S]

Even EtH managed 75 points when he tried to get the best out of the squad. Of course we could change system and start picking up more points than we are now

 

[AjaxCunian]

Neither is any formation when you've got this useless bunch of cnuts.

Funny thing is, we concede all our goals from set plays, which has zero to do with formation.

The goals we concede is one aspect, what about chances we concede and fail to create ourselves? Especially in the first half, before we really start to chase the game.

 

[Castia]

Needs too many specific skill sets. does Amorim have an alternative? He needs to start winning games and perhaps deviating from his plan.

I'm not saying sack Amorim, I'm saying he needs try something else. Bringing in 10 new players isn't going to happen.

We need to stick with it and bring players in to suit the system

Honestly abandoning what’s worked for him to suit this shower of shite squad he may as well just resign

 

[100]

All the formations are shit if you’re conceding goals from set pieces, penalties and keeper errors

 

[AndySmith1990]

Imagine worrying about the formation when you've got an entire squad of worthless trash to try and flog

 

[TheGame]

Our strength has always been our wing play.
Players cutting in and getting goals. This whole formation just nullifies that. We have one less attacking player on the pitch and start with 6 defensive players. The system isn’t working. He’s had 10 games to have a good look at it.

 

[evil_geko]

We don't play 343.

It's 5221 or 541, and it's crap.

Doesnt help that all our players are also crap/in very bad form/low confidence.

5 when defending, 3 when attacking. And it's fine.

 

[Acquire Me]

Players are the problem.

 

[Erictheking7]

We need too many specialists to make this work. I can only see it ending badly.

 

[Catt]

I doubt a formation change will lift performances

 

[sullydnl]

Nah.

We hired him knowing he only want to play 343, 343 is the short/medium/long term plan, so we should stick with 343.

Because the only way players improve in that system is by actually playing that system, and most of these players will still be here next season so they need as much time as they can to get used to it.

If we're shit in short term, so be it. This season has already gone to shit anyway, they can finish deep in midtable mediocrity for all the difference it makes.

And it's not like changing system guarantees any major improvement anyway. We've been shit in our 4231 shape for a long while too.

 

[onemanarmy]

Bollocks.

Terrible squad thanks to ten Hag, no attacking options, players massively out of form.

 

[Annihilate Now!]

The goals we concede is one aspect, what about chances we concede and fail to create ourselves? Especially in the first half, before we really start to chase the game.

We failed to make chances under 4-2-3-1... Ultimately it's that we have a collection of terrible footballers that's the main problem here

 

[the hea]

No tactic can fix this. We are paying millions every week to a bunch of players who can't even be arsed to try, they are only here for their paycheck. The culture within the club is rotten and we need a complete reboot. The majority of the players should be put up for sale in January.

 

[Leftback99]

We have a terrible squad regardless of formation.

People need to wake up to the fact that it's a selection of lower half quality players getting lower half results.

 

[AjaxCunian]

All the formations are shit if you’re conceding goals from set pieces, penalties and keeper errors

Why only look at the goals we concede, are you happy with the rest of the performances? Is that any more encouraging?

 

[girish]

It's not the formation. It's the execution from the players. They're gutless, and can't string 2 attacking passes together. All they do is receive the ball, look to pass it on the somebody else to take on there responsibility of creating something. Nobody looking to play pass in triangles to beat the press and move the ball forward. It's always the same passing the ball back bullshit.

 

[Silverman]

At least it's showing how rubbish this squad is.

 

[CallyRed]

Bring back ole ball

 

[Ayoba]

Shhh, you can't mention formation on the cafe!