21million for Benzema - United rumoured to offer

We won't get him...he doesn't want to come to us and Lyon are demanding £45m + Cristiano Ronaldo. Pipe dream.
 
We won't get him...he doesn't want to come to us and Lyon are demanding £45m + Cristiano Ronaldo. Pipe dream.

Many transfer sagas had started with player's club demanding 100 million euros and then the player ended up signing for his new club for significantly less.

Lyon just issue 'hands off' message to anyone interested by saying such a stupid thing they want Ronaldo+cash, it doesn't take to be a genius to realise they will never, ever get more than 30 million pounds for Benzema if the player wants to move.

However the Frenchman might as well be happy to stay at Lyon for now - in this case, no club will have the chance to sign him, not even for 50 million pounds, as he'll refuse to move.
 
Many transfer sagas had started with player's club demanding 100 million euros and then the player ended up signing for his new club for significantly less.

Lyon just issue 'hands off' message to anyone interested by saying such a stupid thing they want Ronaldo+cash, it doesn't take to be a genius to realise they will never, ever get more than 30 million pounds for Benzema if the player wants to move.

However the Frenchman might as well be happy to stay at Lyon for now - in this case, no club will have the chance to sign him, not even for 50 million pounds, as he'll refuse to move.

Half of Europe wants him, and he doesn't want to come to England, so that puts Barcelona, Real Madrid, AC Milan, Inter Milan and Juventus ahead of us. Furthermore, if he does decide to come to England, Chelsea will be ahead of us due to their enormous wealth, and so will Arsenal due to their French contingent.

We won't sign him, we'd be better concentrating on more realistic, proven targets like Berbatov.
 
I just don't understand why these clubs are trying to sign a huge money striker when they have so many big names of their own.

Milan - Ronaldo, Pato, Gilardino, Inzaghi, and Paloschi coming out of the youth system.
Inter - Ibrahimovic, Crespo, Cruz, Suazo, and possibly Adriano if he sorts his shit out.
Real - Van Nistelrooy, Raul, Robinho, Gago, Saviola, Soldado, Higuain, and Cassano on loan.
Barca - Eto'o, Henry, Gudjohnsen, Dos Santos, Bojan, Ezquerro.

You guys can say, "Well Robinho kinda plays outwide sometimes" or "Inzaghi's old"... But look at our forwards...
Rooney - Played out of position as lone striker, or outwide.
Tevez - Also is played out wide sometimes when Fergie operates a 4-3-3, and is better as a supporting striker.
Saha - Injured round the clock, and getting old.

gago is not a striker
ronaldo is out (and his career might be over) as you said inzaghi is past it and gilardino is well rubbish
 
I just don't understand why these clubs are trying to sign a huge money striker when they have so many big names of their own.

Milan - Ronaldo, Pato, Gilardino, Inzaghi, and Paloschi coming out of the youth system.
Inter - Ibrahimovic, Crespo, Cruz, Suazo, and possibly Adriano if he sorts his shit out.
Real - Van Nistelrooy, Raul, Robinho, Gago, Saviola, Soldado, Higuain, and Cassano on loan.
Barca - Eto'o, Henry, Gudjohnsen, Dos Santos, Bojan, Ezquerro.

You guys can say, "Well Robinho kinda plays outwide sometimes" or "Inzaghi's old"... But look at our forwards...
Rooney - Played out of position as lone striker, or outwide.
Tevez - Also is played out wide sometimes when Fergie operates a 4-3-3, and is better as a supporting striker.
Saha - Injured round the clock, and getting old.
I agree with you. Apart from us.. No one really needs a striker amongst them. I doubt we will have much competition if we go for Benzema. Milan and and Chelsea are the only ones who might get interested. But Milan look set to take back Scheva, it is rumoured
 
Half of Europe wants him, and he doesn't want to come to England, so that puts Barcelona, Real Madrid, AC Milan, Inter Milan and Juventus ahead of us. Furthermore, if he does decide to come to England, Chelsea will be ahead of us due to their enormous wealth, and so will Arsenal due to their French contingent.

We won't sign him, we'd be better concentrating on more realistic, proven targets like Berbatov.

:lol:

He'll cost, what, at best, £15 million less ?

I'd rather pay that extra money for someone who is not only better and more what we need, but is SEVEN years younger.

Saying that, I also don't think we have a hope of signing Benzema, but this Berbatov wanking also has to end.
 
:lol:

He'll cost, what, at best, £15 million less ?

I'd rather pay that extra money for someone who is not only better and more what we need, but is SEVEN years younger.
Good call

Saying that, I also don't think we have a hope of signing Benzema, but this Berbatov wanking also has to end.
So you want a Benzema fest to begin in it's place?:p
 
Good call

So you want a Benzema fest to begin in it's place?:p

Hehe.

Well no, I'd rather everyone just concentrates on the matters in hand (This Season!), and then, come the end of it, waits to see what happens. If we go for him, then great, if we don't, then fine, I trust SAF's judgment on the matter.

But, If I had to choose between a Berbatov and a Benzema fest, I'd choose the latter
 
:lol:

He'll cost, what, at best, £15 million less ?

I'd rather pay that extra money for someone who is not only better and more what we need, but is SEVEN years younger.

Saying that, I also don't think we have a hope of signing Benzema, but this Berbatov wanking also has to end.

Benzema is not a realistic target considering the massive amounts of competition we'd be facing. He also doesn't like the idea of playing in England.

Berbatov clearly has no objection to playing in England, nor does he have Barcelona, Real Madrid, Milan, Milan and Juventus after him.
 
Benzema is not a realistic target considering the massive amounts of competition we'd be facing. He also doesn't like the idea of playing in England.

Berbatov clearly has no objection to playing in England, nor does he have Barcelona, Real Madrid, Milan, Milan and Juventus after him.

Ermm, yes he does. Real Madrid are even prepared to pay £50 million for him.

Berbatov really is a non starter, we won't spend £30 + million on a 27 year old. End of.

All Berbatov is, is a transfer muppets wet dream.
 
Hehe.

Well no, I'd rather everyone just concentrates on the matters in hand (This Season!), and then, come the end of it, waits to see what happens. If we go for him, then great, if we don't, then fine, I trust SAF's judgment on the matter.

But, If I had to choose between a Berbatov and a Benzema fest, I'd choose the latter
I agree
 
Ermm, yes he does. Real Madrid are even prepared to pay £50 million for him.

Are they feck. If Real Madrid pay £50m for Berbatov I'll eat a plate of my own shit.

Berbatov really is a non starter, we won't spend £30 + million on a 27 year old. End of.

All Berbatov is, is a transfer muppets wet dream.

As opposed to Benzema who is 99% likely to start at Old Trafford next season. I'm not saying Berbatov is particularly likely to start here either, but it's a lot more likely to my mind than Benzema.
 
Are they feck. If Real Madrid pay £50m for Berbatov I'll eat a plate of my own shit.



As opposed to Benzema who is 99% likely to start at Old Trafford next season. I'm not saying Berbatov is particularly likely to start here either, but it's a lot more likely to my mind than Benzema.

If you actually bother to read what I'm saying, you'll see that I've said that I think it's highly unlikely Benzema will come to OT, infact, I said I don't think we have a hope of signing him, however I do think we'll at least try to sign him, whereas I don't think we'll even attempt to sign Berbatov.
 
This thread has the potential to go to the end of the summer a la Torres.

Of course we'll be in the market for Benzema, but I have a feeling there are other clubs which need him more, are more attractive to him and are willing to pay over the odds to get him.

No matter, as we have seen with Torres, failing to get an excellent player doesn't mean it's the end of the world.

I'm still pinching myself that we ended up with Tevez. I felt sure Tevez would end up with an Italian or Spanish club. To bring a talent like Tevez to our club is truly amazing however circuitous the manner.

To sum up: Isn't there any shady company which can sell Benzema to West Ham for a season?
 
If you actually bother to read what I'm saying, you'll see that I've said that I think it's highly unlikely Benzema will come to OT, infact, I said I don't think we have a hope of signing him, however I do think we'll at least try to sign him, whereas I don't think we'll even attempt to sign Berbatov.

And when we fail to sign Benzema, who will we turn to? I think there's a fair chance it'll be Berbatov, he's got everything we need, in spite of his age.
 
Of course we'll be in the market for Benzema, but I have a feeling there are other clubs which need him more, are more attractive to him and are willing to pay over the odds to get him.

I'm still pinching myself that we ended up with Tevez. I felt sure Tevez would end up with an Italian or Spanish club. To bring a talent like Tevez to our club is truly amazing however circuitous the manner.

You're right that in the past, we would miss out on the very best players due to fee or wage demands. But because of the signings of Tevez, Anderson & Nani that I think the tide really has changed. We have an amazing stadium, a huge fan base and now will pay big salaries. However, lots of clubs can offer that. Our differentiating attraction is that United also offers an attacking style of play and a club that backs youth. That has got to a potent combination for any young future world star.

Re fee, been thinking about this alot since Tuesday. As others have pointed out, Torres, Tevez, showed that more developed players cost about 27 million. Young unproven hot shots like Nani/Anderson cost below 20million.

Lyon can say what they want, if Benzema wants to move, then market forces will take over to a degree. Which should be in between those 2 figures so about 23 million which would be a great piece of business.

Others who understand our financial position can tell us if we can afford this. How much of the 80million spent last season bites into next seasons transfer budget. Do we have a transfer budget next year? It may be dependent on us winning the CL and using that prize money to help fund such an acquisition.
 
Half of Europe wants him, and he doesn't want to come to England, so that puts Barcelona, Real Madrid, AC Milan, Inter Milan and Juventus ahead of us. Furthermore, if he does decide to come to England, Chelsea will be ahead of us due to their enormous wealth, and so will Arsenal due to their French contingent.

We won't sign him, we'd be better concentrating on more realistic, proven targets like Berbatov.

Bollocks. Arsenal couldn't afford him and a 20 year old is unlikely to be motivated purely by money.

Its clear that plenty of articles have appeared linking benzema to various clubs but you never know who he'd jin (if anyone at all) until the bids were slapped in and some offeres were on the table.

I'd hardly ever rule United out of signing a player.
 
You're right that in the past, we would miss out on the very best players due to fee or wage demands. But because of the signings of Tevez, Anderson & Nani that I think the tide really has changed. We have an amazing stadium, a huge fan base and now will pay big salaries. However, lots of clubs can offer that. Our differentiating attraction is that United also offers an attacking style of play and a club that backs youth. That has got to a potent combination for any young future world star.

Re fee, been thinking about this alot since Tuesday. As others have pointed out, Torres, Tevez, showed that more developed players cost about 27 million. Young unproven hot shots like Nani/Anderson cost below 20million.

Lyon can say what they want, if Benzema wants to move, then market forces will take over to a degree. Which should be in between those 2 figures so about 23 million which would be a great piece of business.

Others who understand our financial position can tell us if we can afford this. How much of the 80million spent last season bites into next seasons transfer budget. Do we have a transfer budget next year? It may be dependent on us winning the CL and using that prize money to help fund such an acquisition.

Nobody on here could tell you hat unless they were very involved in the club itself.

United ias a business generates massive amounts of revenue and reagrdless of the debt, money will be provided to ensure they stay at the top - thius generating more cash.

If Fergie wants a player then money wil be made available as the transfers in te summer show.
 
Nobody on here could tell you hat unless they were very involved in the club itself.

United ias a business generates massive amounts of revenue and reagrdless of the debt, money will be provided to ensure they stay at the top - thius generating more cash.

If Fergie wants a player then money wil be made available as the transfers in te summer show.

If it's a choice of finishing 2nd with a slim chance of 1st and spending £30m on a striker to give us a better chance of 1st, in addition to buying an RB, we'll finish 2nd.

There seems to be this big idea that Ferguson can do whatever he likes, that the Glazers are subservient to his will, if he says "Give me £40m" they will have to obey. It doesn't work like that, Fergie says to Gill "I want X or Y upfront, and I want Z or N at RB", Gill will do all the money negotiations and will need Permission from the Glazers. I doubt Ferguson's involved in transfer much at all apart from identifiying targets and agreeing to sales.
 
Bollocks. Arsenal couldn't afford him and a 20 year old is unlikely to be motivated purely by money.

Arsenal make similar profits to us these days, and have considerably less debt. If we can afford him they probably can as well, considering they never spend any money and we splurged £50m in summer.

As for Chelsea, their money would come into as in we offer £30m to Lyon, they offer £32m. We don't even get the chance to speak to Benzema.

Its clear that plenty of articles have appeared linking benzema to various clubs but you never know who he'd jin (if anyone at all) until the bids were slapped in and some offeres were on the table.

I'd hardly ever rule United out of signing a player.

He has already said Milan are his dream club and he doesn't want to play in England. I'm not ruling it out, but it's seriously unlikely in my view.
 
as far as i know he was speaking to Italian journalists, he's not exactly going to say i hate italianm football is he.
 
Hope we don't go for him. We have Wellbeck and Campbell.
I think we probably should. He, Manucho and Campbell an play upfront, while Wellbeck can play on the right wing. After all we need another winger Giggs no longer has the legs for the position and Wellbeck has all the qualties to be a Ronaldo like winger:D

wingers: Park, Ronaldo, Wellbeck, Nani, Eagles

forwards:Benzema, Rooney, Manucho, Tevez, Campbell.

The best of both worlds :drool:
 
We will sign Benzema only if we are not going to sign Tevez.
Obviously I doubt this will happen.
 
We will sign Benzema only if we are not going to sign Tevez.
Obviously I doubt this will happen.

Not necessarily the option to buy Tevez is there after next season so we have him on loan until then. Benzema could be purchased albeit probably for an extortionate fee but it could be done and the Tevez deal could be left until the following year. Plus with the Glazers being very shrewd when it comes to how to pay the clubs etc. They will put a good downpayment and boost up it up with bonuses to follow.
 
I hope we sign Tevez. If that means we wont go for Benzema, then that's fine to me

So do I love the lil argie bastard.

I wouldnt turn down Benzema either although I do think this is one boy we are going to find it very hard to get our hands on. Its been a while since ive seen fergie foaming at the mouth for a player :lol:
 
Saturdays papers are claiming that Chelsea have now joined the race to sign Benzema and have told Lyon to name their price.
 
Chelsea have to do that because they have no history
 
Lyons face battle to keep Karim Benzema

JEAN-ALAIN Boumsong smiled and shrugged. “Money, of course. Money,” he said. Boumsong does not doubt why, for all that Lyons would like to keep Karim Benzema a little longer, and Benzema would like to stay, there is a good chance the most coveted young striker in the world will begin next season with another club. Benzema would cost at least £20m but Manchester United should buy him now, said Boumsong, before the price rises further.

Chelsea, Barcelona and Real Madrid also covet the 20-year-old and on Friday, Adriano Gallini, vice-president of AC Milan, announced Benzema was alongside Didier Drogba, Andriy Shevchenko and Emmanuel Adebayor on a list of players the Italian club have drawn up of potential replacements for the stricken Ronaldo. United’s desire was increased by the extraordinary goal, a rocket shot from the launch-pad of his supposedly weaker left foot, struck almost without back lift, that Benzema scored against them on Wednesday. Sir Alex Ferguson was pictured making nice with Benzema as the players left the pitch and in his postmatch press conference said: “Great strikers score great goals.” Ferguson is not one who bandies such superlatives lightly.

United’s defenders also gave Benzema five-star reviews. For all their array of attackers, it was United’s lack of a Benzema-like player, a line-leading centre-forward with a goal habit, that saw them come so close to damage in the first leg of the Champions League tie. Wayne Rooney had a fine game in Lyons yet missed a significant chance at 0-0 and, with Boumsong displaying standards far above anything he showed for Newcastle, was often left isolated. Benzema had enough pace and presence to get across United’s backline and unnerve Rio Ferdinand and Nemanja Vidic – not easy given that pair’s form. His goal came out of so little it could barely be characterised a half-chance. It was his 26th of the campaign.

“Our aim is to win the Champions League. We will try and do it this season but, let’s be humble, it could take five years and if we are to win it we need to keep good players like Karim,” said Boumsong. “But it will be difficult because maybe next season Man Utd will buy him. We cannot compare Man Utd and Lyons. Man Utd have much more money and can afford the best players in the world.”

Jean-Michel Aulas, Lyons’ president, has a history of commanding prices for his players that are beyond even United’s reach. Ferguson wanted Michael Essien but could not compete with Chelsea when the bidding went to £24.4m and he was interested in Mahamadou Diarra, but dropped out when Aulas drove his fee towards the £19m Real Madrid ultimately paid. Aulas has recently been suggesting a fee of £45m, or Cristiano Ronaldo plus cash, as the sort of offer that might persuade him to sell Benzema.

One of nine children born to a French-Algerian family in Lyons, Benzema has a similar background to Zinedine Zidane and has been compared to the great Zizou in playing terms. “Karim is a fantastic player and if he works hard and stays humble he will be one of the best players in the world,” said Boumsong. “I hope, long term, he can replace Henry for France. He is also compared to Zidane and has skills like Zidane, though he has a long way to go to get to that level.”

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/european_football/article3423372.ece