Well, it is impossible to have less about you than Scholz.
2024 U.S. Elections | Trump wins
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Well, it is impossible to have less about you than Scholz.
Again, all Harris needed to do was act normal. Trump would dig his own grave with is incoherent scaremongering rambling.
Respectively disagree, let's see what the post-debate polls do.
Mind, that doesn't even matter that much because they're likely to revert backwards in a few weeks. But then again, the election is in a few weeks.
With all due respect, is this the first time you heard of Donald Trump? Did you miss the last eight years?
Why on Earth do you expect him to care about democracy? Particularly about democracy in another country. He would love the sort of regime Orbán created for himself: he would love to be essentially invincible in elections and being able to use an entire country as he sees fit. Indeed, the way he made the entire Republican Party his bitch is very reminiscent of Orbán's methods. And, to my undying shame, in the whole Western alt-right movement, Orbán is considered a shining light, an example to follow, a strong man who resists the globalist elite and so on.
It's all rubbish, quite obviously, but mentioning Orbán probably does play well with a terminally online segment of his base. The problem is that those hardly need energising, they are almost certainly among the most dedicated voters.
The question should be: Is it true that Harris wants this to happen?! Concerning.
He’s the man who’s been fondling the balls of both Kim Jong-Un and Putin, it’s hardly surprising that he doesn’t mind positioning himself next to Orban.
I disagree, I think she utterly unmanned him. Harris had a few performance hurdles to clear: Is she "presidential", can she be rattled by a narcissistic bully, can she be tough but likable (Hillary Clinton's downfall), can she rattle her opponent, can she state her case without letting the terms be dictated by Trump? In all those things, she excelled. The fact or "fact" that her policy proposals are light on specifics is irrelevant because Trump doesn't have any policies. She's being held to a different standard than Trump has been. I think she did well on the economy too, mentioning that she and Biden had to clean up Trump's mess.
Look, when Biden flamed out in the last debate there were some stalwarts trying to pretend it wasn't an unmitigated disaster. But everyone who saw that previous debate knew it was Biden's death knell. The same is true in this debate: minor details can be quibbled over, but anyone who saw it knows that Trump made a total fecking fool of himself, he was incoherent, he rambled, he was an angry old man shouting at clouds.
Honestly, not sure id bang either of them.
Yes, we all know this and we have to take this account when we evaluate the performances. Trump being a lunatic is not in itself a weakness on his part, it’s his brand. It’s what he sells. But I agree that when it came to her demeanour and authority (tough without being condescending etc.), she did very well.
On the economy, I wish she would have been more direct in answering the first question of the night (as well as several other questions), which was if she thought the economy was better or worse off after four years of Biden presidency. It was an easy opportunity to acknowledge the nuances and complexities while also educating the undecideds in some basic economics lessons about the root causes of inflation (thereby taking the sting out of Trump’s subsequent attacks). I believe many of the lies and misleading things Trump is spouting will go unnoticed unless you carefully and soberly explain why they are wrong.
On the last part: Do you think this was a death knell for Trump comparable to the Biden disaster? I wish it was but to me that is exactly that, wishful thinking.
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Easy debate win and the Taylor Swift endorsement. Good night for Kamala Harris.
Watch this motherfecker suddenly give Harris +5 over trump
As annoying as he is, I don't really get why people react with such vitriol to his modelling.
Also there is zero chance that the GOP agree to another debate but Trump will try his hardest to get one.
Harris comfortably won that. Some questions:
Will there be another debate?
Will Trump want a debate as last night even by his standards was poor and would like to regain some momentum or will be reluctant?
I think Harris is the favourite now, what can she do or policy she supports that could ruin it for her?
Will there be another debate?
Will Trump want a debate as last night even by his standards was poor and would like to regain some momentum or will be reluctant?
I think Harris is the favourite now, what can she do or policy she supports that could ruin it for her?
Elon's handling the swift endorsement well. He's told her on twitter that he would impregnate her and protect her cat for being eaten.
Weird.
Weird.
In my case it's his name. Just reminds me to much of Karate Kid villain Terry Silver, who is of course a bit of a cnut.
That's understandable. Very poor from him.
The Trump campaign went off the rails once Biden stepped down. Like a punch drunk boxer just swinging aimlessly hoping something lands
I mean Dukakis ruined his campaign by standing next to a tank.
I mean Dukakis ruined his campaign by standing next to a tank.
I don't understand why everyone doesn't just stop everytime Trump says democrats want post 9 month abortions and ask him, SO THEY WANT TO MURDER LIVING BABIES?! And just refuse to continue any form of conversation until he explains this.
Same way a bunch of fans have been reacting to anything Romano tweets that isn't confirmation of a United signing. People getting way too emotionally involved in some of these things.
He’s just correcting his model
"They're eating the dogs" would actually be amusing above a hotdog stand if someone does it soon.
Glad to see the Democrats have finally got it when taking on Trump and done away with the 'We go high, they go low' approach. The only way to fight these cnuts is in the gutter and trigger them so they implode, just like Trump did yesterday. They haven't got any answers to that. The major implosion for Trump will be when he loses, I believe he will try something again as he will be an even more desperate man.
If Harris doesn't do the next ad with 'Who let the dogs out', its a missed opportunity.
I love this! They could just go in that, hard.Are popstar endorsements a big thing in American politics or is Tay just a different breed of pop culture megalodon now?
Halting a VP candidate to tell him that Taylor Swift is backing him and Harris and social media acting like she is the silver bullet for Trump is a bit bizarre.
Halting a VP candidate to tell him that Taylor Swift is backing him and Harris and social media acting like she is the silver bullet for Trump is a bit bizarre.
I think that Harris started weak, but she basically knocked out Trump with the ‘people are leaving his rallies early’ line. I do not think Trump minded the Hannibal Lecter and windmills causing cancer, but when she said that his rallies are boring and people are leaving early, that was it for Trump, and after that, he was incapable of saying anything coherent and looked like an idiot even for his very low standards. Then it was all Kamala and overall I think she comfortably won the debate.
You clearly are not aware of Taylor Swift fandom strength.
What a bizarre thing to fall apart on but that's Trump for you.
They clearly went to trigger him and it worked. If he gets triggered with things like that, you really have to wonder how on earth he negotiates anything on the international stage.
Narcissistic injury. She jabbed the sword deep into his feeble mind.
Yes, they eat dogs and aborted babies. I was a brilliant baby, probably best baby of all. And I had billions and billions of dogs.
Rumbling maniac.
Rumbling maniac.
Classically deranged stuff from Trump as expected
It was incredible seeing him taking the bait on getting 400 million from his father and fixating on that in his answer, getting derailed on one of his favourite topics. He really is a literal child, and Harris won by treating him as such, because I think it was pretty much a tie after the first two rounds, economy and abortion.
Woke up to the good news. It seems she did way better than I thought. She won by points, not by KO though, but that rarely happens anyway. Hopefully it will have an effect on the polls, even a slight improvement in the numbers could prove decisive in such a toss-up election, but only if Trump won't beat his polls again. We will have to wait for a week or more for any potential debate effect on the polls. Personally, I'll wait till the last week of September.
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It was a good night for her. She didn’t convince any Maga lunatics to vote for her, but she did probably impress a fair number of Independents that she is up for the job. Swift’s endorsement was far more consequential than anything said on the debate stage last night, and its timing couldn’t have been better.