2024 U.S. Elections | Trump wins
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Yes, you take cover quickly and calmly and don't need to make a big show of it.
34 Dems have come out now and asked for Biden to step down. Been quite a flurry today and suspect we will be at 100+ by the start of next week.
That's exactly what he did. The big show is obviously for his cult.
You also can't make fun of people being scared because they were shot at. Not everyone reacts the same way and being afraid isn't a mark of shame.
Taking advantage of the situation is, though.
Why does "everyone" keep saying that? Saying something over and over doesn't actually make it true.
Biden's net approval is - 18, Harris is - 12.
With the obvious caveat that she hasn't been running for President all this time, and as such, the Republicans haven't been dedicated to bringing her numbers down. Once she runs, they will attack her mercilessly with race, gender, and her performance running Biden's border policy as the main points of attack.
There’s also the chance that she will be able to distinguish herself more from Biden and won’t be seen as ‘guilty by association’ by as many people.
Agreed. Except for the age issue, she will be tarred with the same attacks they would have levied on him.
Anyone can chop up a video like this. That's not going to be a showstopper for most people, just as it isn't when they see Trump gaff videos. Her main weakness for Republicans (officially) will be her ineffectiveness at the border, which is a key right wing policy area. Unofficially, they are going to be releasing endless racial and gender tropes to discredit her - ranging from her relationship with Willie Brown (she slept her way to the top) to her half Indian background.
No, seriously—get Newsom, Beshear, or Whitmer in there. Kamala would be a disaster. The Biden Administration has essentially locked her down for the past three and a half years because she's not likable or charismatic. She's not ready for primetime and has no tangible success as VP. Remember the 2020 DNC primary debates? She had that one "that girl on the bus was me" soundbite, but nothing else memorable or substantial. She couldn't connect! Her early exit from the race, much sooner than Buttigieg or Klobuchar, says it all.
I think he was panicky and melodramatic and would describe his action as more of a pathetic collapse rather than deliberately seeking cover.
His bravado while being carted off the stage was also phony. Due to his bully, wanna be tough guy persona, it's probably the first time in his life someone other than his father reached out and touched him, so the way he responded to it in the moment isn't surprising. Bullies are often stunned in such a situation.
Seeing his cult (not suggesting this is you) laud him as some big, tough superman in the days following necessitates a mocking response, though. He is very lucky, nothing else.
I wholly agree on that.
I don't think there's many, if any on this forum.
Yes, he is.
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Obama knows the intricacies of someone stepping down this far into an election campaign
Yet there he is advocating it’s time too stand down
Yeah the cult reference is more to the world outside of the caf.
Live scenes from the Harris HQ:
Oh my god. These people.
Also just remembered when Trump didn't go to Normandy because it was raining.
Would agree with this. Trump remains prone to blunders. No fecking way should the Dems be losing to him.
It doesn't matter, as long as dems persist with a candidate even more incoherent than Trump.
Pretty sure Biden is done.
Zelinsky sees the writing on the wall....
With all that surgery, she is equally unrecognisable.
I know he won't do it because it's basically a poison chalice for his long term ambitions, but Newsom's ability to handle the likes of a Desantis/Fox and even get the raging racists online to pine over his "traditional" family is like the perfect candidate to blunt all of this elections right-wing hate and bile. You're essentially going to have a GOP campaign that is a version of Elon frothing at the mouth because "Newsom won't make schools out trans kids to parents" and they are going to look like the most online losers imaginable. Newsom running turns the GOP tactics into a culture war election and they are so "online" they will sound like they are from another reality.
3D chess from Zelensky? Trying to put another nail in Bidens coffin and force a new candidate?
Must be embarrassing for Biden to hear Zelensky is resorting to talking to Trump.
While i agree, that is what the GOP will resort too, I don't think Newsom will run.
Plus, being the Gov of California doesn't necessarily help win the blue wall.
It is over if Biden remains top of the ticket.
America will chose a "strong" liar over a "weak" honest man.
He's in a tough spot. He and Harris have known each other for years coming up in CA politics, and he seems to be reluctant to make any moves that could be viewed as attempting to step over her.
I tend to agree. Plus, the GOP will hit her on the border, because she was supposed to be Bidens "border tsar".
She has more upside than Biden though.
It should be Whitmer and Josh Shapiro for me. Two popular Governors in two crucial swing states. Always liked Corey Booker too - would be a good VP.
Would the black caucus be unhappy about passing over Kamala - yes, but her being VP only signals she is next in line should the president be incapacitated. The President didn't pick her to be the next person to be on the ballot.
There should be an open convention. Add some energy back into the party. As long as it is fair, unlike when Bernie got screwed, I think when it is all said and done, the party is smart enough to get behind a candidate to fight Trump. He is seen now as a much bigger threat than he was when he beat Hillary in 2016.
Plus an all Cali ticket, with him as VP? Not sure that would work.
No way Newson and Whitmer will enter the race. They envision a longer future and normal race for themselves surely. Only ones I can see entering the race now are the likes of a Gov Shapiro. He s polling really well too.
yeah, which is the sad part. I'm thoroughly convinced that Harris saves some congressional seats and maybe one swing state. However, the stench of Biden is just too much on her. If Newsom is looking to the future, then its got to be someone way outside the current orbit, but with some name ID
Not sure if he would be interested anyway. He already runs the fifth largest GDP economy in the world and seems to have his sights set on the Presidency.
I agree. I think he waiting for 2028 to pick up the pieces, post Trump.
Which is kind of strange, given the Dems tell us 4 years of Trump would rip down the fabric of democracy.
If you believe that, get in the race now.
Is not 3D chess. Is a leader of a country giving a courtesy call to a (more than) possible POTUS after he almost get assassinated. Then Trump spins it further from that.
Trump blackmailed Zelensky with Hunter-Ukraine and Zelensky didn't cave in. So I doubt that either of them are getting cozy with each other. Specially Trump that is vindictive and is Putin's pal. But is election times and this hurts Biden
If Gavin ran, the tension between him and the Trump campaign would be explosive given that he was previously married to Don Jr.'s current girlfriend. So any dirt that took place between Kim and Gavin when he was mayor of SF 20 years ago, would be on the table.