2024 U.S. Elections | Trump wins

He won't answer the question about accepting the election results
 
Trump's answer on "will you accept elections" was so bad!!!???
Biden actually speaking at audible volume in reply!? And saying something coherent.
 
Did something happen to Biden’s chin during the course of the debate? It looked weird at the end.
 
Biden with the strong finish there, rightfully calling Trump a whiner. Still, these 2 being the best candidates and the kind of debate they're having shows how rotten the system is.
 
calodo2003 said:
You got double haters, Haley supporters, ethnic minorities, & those who are very nascent following the campaigns. You have to remember, we've never had a debate this early before. We are in completely uncharted territory. We're only a week into summer. Labor Day typically signals when those who haven't thought a whit about the campaign finally start paying attention. The uniqueness of this debate signals to me that there is still uniqueness in those following their candidate of choice that can turn them on or off.

Hopefully Biden can break the curse of the incumbent always losing the first debate, a curse that goes back to Kennedy v. Nixon in 1960 (that debate was odd, those who were only listening to the debate said Nixon won, those who watched the debate said Kennedy won).
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oneniltothearsenal said:
17% sounds pretty accurate. There are a lot more undecideds than you might think having access only to the internet and international news from Europe and not listening to random people at bars, restaurants, social gatherings, etc. A lot of people will watch the debate at friend's houses, at bars, simply because its the only live thing on at 6-9pm not out of intense interest in reading politics every day. There are a fair number of people who dislike both Biden and Trump where even if they are predisposed one way, they are thinking about not voting at all so the debate could determine if they vote at all.
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Ill take your word for it. Hopefully Biden performs great or he faints and retires from the race
 
Fridge chutney said:
They're both senile. Feck off USA. Is this really the best you can do?
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Trump has undoubtedly been helped both times by the candidates he’s been up against. How the Democrat party could select Hillary Clinton and this Joe Biden is beyond me.
 
4bars said:
Ill take your word for it. Hopefully Biden performs great or he faints and retires from the race
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Well he looked li.ke he would faint before it even started!

Biden was real bad first 15 mins, Trump has been coherent but has lied his ass off and Biden has been getting better
 
Are we gonna get a question about Trump being a felon?
 
Red in STL said:
Well he looked li.ke he would faint before it even started!

Biden was real bad first 15 mins, Trump has been coherent but has lied his ass off and Biden has been getting better
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I didnt even know that it was on when i wrotr the message
 
stopped midway through biden's closing statement. could barely hear what he was saying. something about taxes, but the actual point was unclear.


the height-weight squabble in the middle - the only part where both men were fired up - was maybe the funniest thing that's happened in US politics.
 
Dr. Dwayne said:
Who do we think was more rambling and incoherent overall?
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Biden lost his train of thought multiple times actually trying to answer the question.

Trump went on so many off topic rants that I lost track of how many times he had the question restated to him.

So take your pick
 
CNN analysts are saying that the Dems are very worried
 
Dr. Dwayne said:
Who do we think was more rambling and incoherent overall?
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didn't watch all of it. trump had one insanely incoherent answer (on accepting the election). went into a tangent which made no sense.

but biden.... not just incoherent, he was hoarse and quiet, so it was impossible to even guess the larger points he was making. this wasn't just one answer, it happened multiple times. and i watched the later parts of the debate where he supposedly did better.
 
Dr. Dwayne said:
Who do we think was more rambling and incoherent overall?
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Definitely Biden, Trump was Trump.

But if by rambling and incoherent you’re referring to bombast and bluster then the answer’s Trump.
 
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I just wish Biden would have said "person, woman, man, camera, TV" when Trump was going on about the cognitive tests.
 
One of these two will be the president of the US for the next 4 years..


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