2024 U.S. Elections | Trump wins
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I personally call this as the "shiny new toy effect" when it comes to Haley. I also saw that when John Kerry first earned the nomination in 2004, I saw Kerry pummel George W. Bush in the first presidential debate for 2004, and yet it was not enough for him to go the distance as soon as Bush had adjusted in the other 2 presidential debates.
Just like Bush vs. Kerry in 2004, I think that Biden can and would also find a way to make Haley look bad if that came down to such a showdown. There are several angles of attack that would allow Biden to cripple Haley (her position on abortion, her opinions on the Civil War, her record as UN ambassador for Trump, a number of not-so-good things in her record as SC governor, etc.).
This is a stark reminder that the Electoral College should be set on fire and let to burn to the ground. France are doing perfectly fine with their system of electing a President of the Republic of having a maximum of 2 rounds for as long as one candidate scores above 50% of the total votes across the entire population.
Its actually less than that. He won the popular by 4.5% last time but was a mere 51k votes in 3 states away from losing the EC.
Don't think it says here, but sample size was about 1800 people.
I really want Biden to be unhinged in front of the cameras right now if what is reported here is true.
The EC should go, but obviously it won’t. No constitutional amendment is possible right now. The idea that you can receive 3-4% less votes and win is unbelievably ridiculous.
France has a better functioning democracy in my view. Not perfect, but more stable. The person with more votes becomes president. Imagine that!
Speaking of the constitution: so the whole case of Trump is how to define the word “officers”? Which brings me to ask: why didn’t the Founding Fathers make things clearer?! It’s like “shall not be infringed.” Does that mean that people are entitled to hold any weapons?
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The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact may yet be able to kill off the EC
His contempt for Trump was pretty evident at the debates. He told him to shut up and called him a clown, which is unusual for these debates.
If there ever is a debate between them in 2024, and after a bunch of interruptions from Trump, I can imagine Biden going something like "you are such a jackass, man".
Might even top when he told him to shut up.
Might even top when he told him to shut up.
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I would buy that t-shirt.
I can see him saying that. Its also interesting that Trump struggles to bully him in debates.
Being a Republican in the Trump era is almost synonymous with being a sick feck. On my side of the border, the only genuine sick fecks I see are conservatives whose wet dream is to be like Republicans every day.
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Oh boy, they're coming for you now. Biden is great, and when he is not, trump would be even worse.
Think of the ratings bonanza if there was a geriatric fist fight at a debate. Meanwhile, the world is laughing and some silent in amazement. Would become one of those 'you know where you were that day' moments.
Well, yeah compared to Trump he is. Any Democrat compared to a Republican is a fecking saint - that much should be obvious to anyone with half a brain.
And how exactly is Biden a "sick feck"?
Irony is that though some years ago those types of hot mic moments might hurt a candidate- nowadays Biden doing that would probably help him bc there are many who would love to tell Trump the same thing and then some.
Well, to my half brain a guy doesn't become good just because someone else is worst. Biden is supporting israel's genocide, if that's not enough then we just have different views on what a sick feck is.
I really hate this reality where biden can do whatever the feck he wants and if anyone opens their mouth to point it out they're morons with half a brain because trump. Oh, or maybe russian/chinese agents, according to pelosi. Yeah, trump is worse, but feck all these democrat psychopaths.
Wow.
People can be morons irrespective of Trump or Biden. Just sayin'
Sure, but they're not morons just because they think biden is responsible for some truly horrible shit.
How exactly is Biden (It's a capital "B", Mr Eboue) responsible for Israel's actions? You know as well as I do that an American President is not going to go hard against Israel.
If they reduce the conflict in question to the current sitting president of the united states and think everyone in the world somehow connected to the united states does everything at that president's mercy I reserve the right to draw my conclusions.
"If I build a straw man I too can judge it"
When you give a nation committing genocide 3.3 billion dollars and full political cover in the UN, you share part of the responsibility.
I assume you are familiar with our resident Far Left poster Eboue - who famously refuse to capitalize names for some absurd reason? You and him share the same views.
He is responsible for his own actions.
I'm not reducing anything. If a government supports financially and politically another government committing genocide, I think they're sick fecks. I'm not making vague connections about everyone in the world, these are direct connections, very specific, that happened in the last few weeks.
I'd say the continued funding doesn't help, nor does the lack of a spine when it comes to actually doing the right thing and at the very, very least denouncing Israel and their actions and demanding a ceasefire instead of pussying out and even spreading blatant lies and propaganda.
There comes a time when enough is efeckingnough and it's morally and ethically right to stand up and use whatever power and influence you have to stop the ethnic cleansing and genocide. But they won't because they are too busy playing politics and making self serving decisions.
BIden could easily help see the end of Netenyahu and demand Israel is held to account for its forces and governments actions and still make it up with whoever takes over. Israel needs the US more than the US needs Israel but you wouldn't think so the way the US is getting knocked around by them.
My absurd reason is that is faster and the phone doesn't correct it. Why would it bother you?
When Trump is in office the presidency is a all powerful tool used by one person which can turn America into a dictatorship. When Biden is in office the presidency is actually very complex and not as powerful as people think.
Debating anything with hardwired democrats is a very big waste of time.
Debating anything with hardwired democrats is a very big waste of time.
Literally everyone in the west is supporting this Israel effort in one way or the other, pretty words at the UN aside. Is Portugal, the UK or the EU maximizing pressure on Israel? Who has stopped trading with them?
The only way outsiders could get Israel to stop now is by threatening withdrawing all military and political support anyway, and I'm not even sure that will do it.
Almost as if they were presidents for different political parties...
The funny thing is you were here to witness the republican descent into trumpism and still think the republican and democratic president can govern using the same mechanisms.
I respect this level of honesty.
Everyone is sending billions a year to israel's military and everyone is vetoing all attempts of a ceasefire? That's news to me.
Also, this is the US thread, i can post about how many politicians from those other countries you mentioned are sick fecks too, it would make all posts really long though, if we had to mention everything all the time.
What mechanism is stopping biden from asking for a ceasefire through the un, stop sending weapons to kill children or pressuring israel in public for a ceasefire?
Countries like China, Germany and many others are literally pumping billions into Israel that pales in comparison to the millions going to Gaza. Just because other countries are able to fly under the radar more doesn't mean only the US provides aid. I'd argue the US is simply more transparent (or blatant it you want to use that word im sure) - in where that money ends up. It sounds nice to say you're giving humanitarian aid when that does little to deter Israel, while at the same time propping up Israels economic prowess.
The mechanism that Israel's enemies have been telling everyone for ~50+ years that they want to wipe it off of the face of the world and most democrats have told everyone who would listen that they would stand by Israel for their own entire lives. It is possible that he could do more to force Netanyahu into a ceasefire, but withdrawing support isn't realistic. It's a no win situation for Biden and while I share the frustration when one looks at the horrors happening in Gaza every day for the last 4 months I don't think withdrawing support now would do anything other than escalate the situation even further.