2024 U.S. Elections | Trump wins

I never know how to take AOC.
I guess she's no different to every other bshitting politician in the end.
 
FrankDrebin said:
I never know how to take AOC.
I guess she's no different to every other bshitting politician in the end.
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Yep that is my guess as well. Gambling on Biden staying with a career move in the future. The likes of Obama and Schumer still currently support Biden.

Any progressive should be looking to get rid of Biden. Opens up even a small possibility the US policy on Gaza changes with a new leader.
Plus Biden is tanking hard against Trump.

There is the chance AOC is very stupid.
 
Raoul said:
If that were true they wouldn’t have attempted to become part of that uni party system.
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Maybe. Bernie got sidelined by the DNC elites, who maneuvered to maintain their control, while Trump bulldozed through the RNC, reshaping the party in his image.
 
Morty_ said:
Claiming dems have all these scandals, but when Trump's getting prosecuted for actual election-interference himself, its actually nothing and just the "deep state" going after him.

You are a republican, at this point, right?
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It’d be nice if we could argue the actual issues instead of diving into identity politics. It doesn't matter if I'm left, right, or centrist. The point is, your argument is just classic whataboutism.
 
Suedesi said:
It’d be nice if we could argue the actual issues instead of diving into identity politics. It doesn't matter if I'm left, right, or centrist. The point is, your argument is just classic whataboutism.
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Hard to when your posts look like dots points for GOP talking points.
 
Suedesi said:
Maybe. Bernie got sidelined by the DNC elites, who maneuvered to maintain their control, while Trump bulldozed through the RNC, reshaping the party in his image.
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That's a problem for the Dem party. They've stretched themselves out so far to be a "big tent" party that no one knows whose in charge. The Republicans, on the other hand, are completely homogenous with the usual policy positions and one leader who everyone obeys.
 
He is probably staying, so Trump back in the white house then.

Hopefully dems can mobilize downballot and flip the house or something...
 
The only positive of this episode is that people might finally shed the idea that Biden is a "fundamentally decent man."
 
Iker Quesadillas said:
The only positive of this episode is that people might finally shed the idea that Biden is a "fundamentally decent man."
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Biden is behaving much like Trump these days, denial of reality, believing he has all the answers etc.

Just another narcissist, at the end of the day.
 
That_Bloke said:
They're most likely going to lose then.
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I think that's true no matter what the Democrats do. They can improve their chances to some extent, but in reality the major damage has already been done by Biden not stepping down before the primary and allowing for a fresh face to emerge more organically.
 
I would like to think the Dems may still have a chance if they were to replace Joey but the the question turns into : who are they going to replace him with?
There's a few ones but not one standout candidate.
 
Mike Smalling said:
I think that's true no matter what the Democrats do. They can improve their chances to some extent, but in reality the major damage has already been done by Biden not stepping down before the primary and allowing for a fresh face to emerge more organically.
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Yeah.

Looking at how violently Biden reacted at the idea and looks determined to dig his heels in, forcing him out would cause even more havoc in the Dems camp now.
 
That_Bloke said:
Yeah.

Looking at how violently Biden reacted at the idea and looks determined to dig his heels in, forcing him out would cause even more havoc in the Dems camp now.
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I could be wrong, but I don't even think it's technically possible. He has won the primary, and those delegates are legally his now. The way I understand it, is that there is no higher authority that can make this decision and force him out. It has to come from Biden himself. Of course the right people can apply pressure, but that may not be enough.
 
Biden has been running for president since the late 80s, becoming president was his life mission.

Giving up power voluntarily is not his character.
 
Mike Smalling said:
I could be wrong, but I don't even think it's technically possible. He has won the primary, and those delegates are legally his now. The way I understand it, is that there is no higher authority that can make this decision and force him out. It has to come from Biden himself. Of course the right people can apply pressure, but that may not be enough.
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Ah, thanks for the clarification.
 
VorZakone said:
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Gonna be hard to sell "Trump is an extential threat" while backing the weakest possible candidate to beat him, at the same time.

She is free to make that argument though, best of luck, i guess.
 
Frosty said:
Biden’s doctor reportedly met with top neurologist at White House

Parkinson’s expert at Walter Reed medical center has visited White House eight times since August 2023 – report

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/06/joe-biden-neurologist-doctor-meeting

Hmm.
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Raoul said:
Hard to say if he's got it or not, but the optics of a Parkinsons expert visiting the WH eight times, isn't good, and will prolong the narrative at a time when the Dems are desperately trying to change it.
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That guy has worked for the white house clinic since 2012 as a neurology specialist. Also, "visotor logs reviewed by NY Post". Hmm.
 
Precaution said:
I feel like she's come out of this pretty negatively more so than Joe, looks like she's been pulling the strings and quite a busy body whereas before she seemed like she kept herself to herself and only heard a few times but christ on a bike she seems a real Karen
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Shades of Nancy Reagan, but minus the nutty christo-fascist beliefs and dog whistles.
 
Seems like the Dems will only be happy when they've gifted Trump a second term. Well done everyone.
 
FireballXL5 said:
Seems like the Dems will only be happy when they've gifted Trump a second term. Well done everyone.
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He's our best chance, regardless of if you like it or not. Taking him out now would be a cluster and would give us no chance. I still think Biden will beat Trump, even at his old age. The Trump fervor we had the last 7 years seems to be mostly gone.
 
MarylandMUFan said:
He's our best chance, regardless of if you like it or not. Taking him out now would be a cluster and would give us no chance. I still think Biden will beat Trump, even at his old age. The Trump fervor we had the last 7 years seems to be mostly gone.
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That just is not true, a vibrant younger candidate would demolish Trump. I would not even trust Biden to run a bath.
 
Think that Trump will easily win over 300 votes, in fact can see him going as far as 335 votes. Think that a few traditional blue states (New Hampshire, Minnesota, Maine) will turn red this time, and all swing states will go red.

The main issue is that in presidential election, people tend to vote the same party for congress, so GOP will have a much higher majority in the House than this time, and will flip the senate too.
 
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