The whole “he is not trump” argument masks lot of denial and bad faith arguments on many key issues. Instead of looking for ways to solve them we get bs discourse telling poor people they are nazis for not voting. Because if there is anything more disgusting than being poor in America, it is choosing not to vote for a rapist.
2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress
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You even have it in your name. Now why did I think you live in Georgia?
My mind works in mysterious and wrong waysHow will you be solving issues this November?
Good luck trying to solve a lot of these issues when the Trump mob expands its hold on all levels of government. Answer me this : whatever politician you do admire: are they more likely to have an influence under the current regime or under a new president?
This is a time to be pragmatic about things, not get into the ideals the books would have you believe society should work like.
15% overall, 24% among independents. 17% among <50k income but only 10% among >150k. There is also a region-wise breakdown in the poll, highest in the Midwest.
Very stupidly, they did not do crossstabs of this with primary vote for Bernie/Biden/other, but the demographics (young, poor, independent, and Latino) suggest this is coming from Bernie supporters.
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You even have it in your name. Now why did I think you live in Georgia?
No worries dudeHa! Yeah, tell me about it. And that’s a big maybe on if I’ll have Clemson football this year.Makes even less of a difference then
Where does all this intelligence go when it comes to believing sexual assault survivors? Putting aside the fact that you somehow think voting for a rapist will definitely solve the issue, you are proving my point by refusing to hold him accountable.
As much as I hate Biden and think he’s a DINO, we’re on this earth for the next few decades, maybe a few more on top of that if we are lucky and I think most people’s lives will be marginally better if Biden is President next year than if Trump will be president.
I really do respect anyones decision not to vote for Biden but if your vote counts, you really can’t complain if Trump gets in again.
I really do respect anyones decision not to vote for Biden but if your vote counts, you really can’t complain if Trump gets in again.
I think the key is what direction you want America to go in (assuming you're a voter). Unless this Reade allegation proves founded - in which case I assume the DNC will have to pivot to Sanders (?) - the candidates in November are Joe Biden and Donald Trump. One of those two will be President, that's your choice.
So, say climate change is your number one priority. Between Biden and Trump, who is more likely to do more damage?
Say healthcare is the most important thing to you. Between Biden and Trump, who is more likely to make healthcare better in the US?
Maybe America's position on the world stage matters to you. Between Biden and Trump, who is more likely to improve the US' standing?
Maybe you just like having experts being appointed to positions where they specialise. Maybe having Rick Perry on energy, Stephen Miller on racism and everything else with Jared Kushner isn't your preferred setup.
Maybe you just want a bit of balance against the GOP senate, so that every judge doesn't have to be appointed by Mitch McConnell.
The line that a Biden presidency and a Trump presidency are equal is reductionist to the point of absurdity. To paraphrase some columnist or another (Sedaris I think?) it's like you're on a plane, and the stewardess offers you chicken or a sh*t sandwich, and you respond by asking how the chicken is cooked.
So, say climate change is your number one priority. Between Biden and Trump, who is more likely to do more damage?
Say healthcare is the most important thing to you. Between Biden and Trump, who is more likely to make healthcare better in the US?
Maybe America's position on the world stage matters to you. Between Biden and Trump, who is more likely to improve the US' standing?
Maybe you just like having experts being appointed to positions where they specialise. Maybe having Rick Perry on energy, Stephen Miller on racism and everything else with Jared Kushner isn't your preferred setup.
Maybe you just want a bit of balance against the GOP senate, so that every judge doesn't have to be appointed by Mitch McConnell.
The line that a Biden presidency and a Trump presidency are equal is reductionist to the point of absurdity. To paraphrase some columnist or another (Sedaris I think?) it's like you're on a plane, and the stewardess offers you chicken or a sh*t sandwich, and you respond by asking how the chicken is cooked.
And yet another deflection. Also note I won't be voting for him.
If Reade comes out tomorrow and says she takes her allegation back, will you continue to call him a rapist, or will you switch to being pro-Biden vs. Trump?
A few posters told me when I tried to honestly engage with Entropy last week that it wasn't worth my time. They were correct.
I was one
I love that mindset. They're basically saying that they believe they know what Bernie Sanders should think more than Bernie Sanders.
Hahaha whoops!I was one
Deflection from what?
Are we still pretending that you care about sexual assault survivors?
My question. How will you be solving problems. I'd love to understand and see if I can too! Please note, screaming bloody murder that we are all rapist apologizers is not a valid answer.
Oh look, yet another deflection.
I literally said you should hold him accountable and a great place to start would be by believing sexual assault survivors. The fact that posters here are not interested in doing that and want to give him a pass are the kind of bad faith arguments I was talking about.
Ok, so hold him accountable how? Follow that through. And how does it help?
By investigating the allegations and allowing a fair trial. There are multiple women who have come forward over the last year. Why is any of this so groundbreaking?
FFS .
Thanks for the clarification.
If I were in either of their shoes I would hold my nose and vote for Biden.
Voting isn't something we do to make ourselves feel good, it's a small opening in our plutocracy to affect the political system. Many people's lives will be objectively worse if Donald Trump wins another term. You can help to prevent that by voting for the other guy.
It is that simple for me.
The fight for real change goes on for the other 364 days that aren't election day.
Wish it was. Biden looks like he's going down the can we all get along route.
Would not be surprised if he is in the background financing the campaign.
This is the fundamental issue at play in November. Another four years of Trump packing the courts full of conservative judges will have a profound effect on the system that will take decades to undo, including any progressive aspirations for Medicare 4 All, Green New Deal etc - Trump would simply emplace judges who vote against key legal cases should universal healthcare and any other progressive policy ever see the light of day.
I asked you. What are you doing or going to do to solve problems? You've accused us of not solving problems. I'd like to understand what actions you are taking to solve problems.
How was my answer not clear?
Biden wears this hat for the debate, wins 47 states.
Are you a private investigator or lawyer? I don't see how YOU solve a problem.
How many times are you going to bring that up? Just ignore him and move on, this is just dumb.
For someone who keeps going on about taking people on good faith, you sure do belittle them a lot.
the centrists are just ever so pleased with themselves
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