2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress

[izec]

Biden will win, calm down

 

[Mike Smalling]

Pennsylvania doesn't look good.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

I agree that it's sad that so many voted for him but Dems have to hold their hands up. They fecked up when Trump did nothing different. Biden is and was a poor candidate - when your only real platform is "I am not Trump'" then you are asking for trouble.

Democrats never really put out a vision/dream/something to aim for. Saying it's not Trump' is not the same thing

That should have been more than enough reason for Trump to lose. Same as it was in 2016.

 

[Minkaro]

I put a bet on Trump to win outright (I always bet on the negative outcome). I can cash out now, but I’m not sure if it’s better to hold out? Cashout now is £164.29 and the full payout would be £271.69.

 

[WPMUFC]

Pennsylvania doesn't look good.

They aren't counting and the outstanding mail vote is huge democrat.

 

[Samid]

Has Trump actually won here or are people just crapping the bed before time?

People have seen this movie before.

 

[JJ12]

Trump is favourites with the bookies - they are rarely wrong. Especially with only a few states left.

 

[calodo2003]

Pennsylvania doesn't look good.

Over 2 million ballots outstanding in PA alone.

 

[Suv666]

Has Trump actually won here or are people just crapping the bed before time?

Trump just came out and said he wants to move the Supreme Court which would suggest Trump isnt sure he'll win if all the votes are counted and its a toss up.

 

[Mike Smalling]

They aren't counting and the outstanding mail vote is huge democrat.

True, but he has to make up roughly a 700k gap though 1.4 million uncounted mail-in ballots. That's pretty steep.

 

[RoadTrip]

They aren't counting and the outstanding mail vote is huge democrat.

This is true but he needs to win over 75% of all uncounted votes to win the state. It’s possible, but it is still a pretty steep hill to climb.

 

[Pexbo]

Trump is favourites with the bookies - they are rarely wrong. Especially with only a few states left.

They were wrong up until about an hour ago though?

 

[Sarni]

Trump is favourites with the bookies - they are rarely wrong. Especially with only a few states left.

Well they were wrong for the last three months it seems.

 

[Siorac]

Trump is going to win this and it is no wonder when you put Kerry 2.0 as your candidate.

This should have been a lay up for the Dems.

With this level of support for Trump, there's no realistic scenario in which this is an easy win for Democrats. Turnout has reached record heights; with millions of votes still to be counted, Biden already reached Hillary's level from four years ago. His vote share will only increase from here, in all likelihood.

For me, it's really really hard to see what they could have done in this era of increasing polarisation. Could they have squeezed out of a couple more percents in some important states? Sure, probably. But overall the moral of the story seems to be that those calling themselves centrists or independents are generally right-leaning people. Nothing new but it's confirmed again and again.

 

[Drainy]

Trump is favourites with the bookies - they are rarely wrong. Especially with only a few states left.

Nah they move with the market and Trump has called it for himself. They are going to tighten the odds after that.

 

[berbatrick]

Does Trump wins if he even wins two of these?

Assuming Biden wins Maine (4), NV (6) and AZ (11), which is the current trend, he is at 245 and needs 25 more. (24 to tie, which becomes a loss)

WI = 10
PA = 20
MI = 16
GA= 16
NC = 15

If Biden loses all 3 midwestern states, he needs both Georgia and NC, which looks very hard.
If Trump holds Georgia and NC, then if he holds any 2 of the 3 he wins.

 

[sglowrider]

Trump accused Obama as a illegit POTUS. Now he is claiming the same thing against Biden, if Joe wins.

Trump just needs to pull out the same playback from 2008

 

[mariachi-19]

True, but he has to make up roughly a 700k gap though 1.4 million uncounted mail-in ballots. That's pretty steep.

Not when Biden is leading 80/20 in mail in votes.
Why do you think trump went off?

 

[Adisa]

I don't get this Dems didn't put the perfect candidate rubbish.
That you need a perfect candidate against this Neanderthal after four years of experience shows the electorate is lost.

 

[Siorac]

They could have started by putting a younger and more charismatic candidate out there. Obama would have nailed Trump.

But again, that's on the voters. It's not the party that appoints candidates. Democratic voters opted for Biden, for whatever reason.

 

[100]

This is incredible

 

[Samid]

I put a bet on Trump to win outright (I always bet on the negative outcome). I can cash out now, but I’m not sure if it’s better to hold out? Cashout now is £164.29 and the full payout would be £271.69.

Difficult to say without knowing the stake but in general cash out sucks. Almost always it’s better to let it ride and instead put a separate lay bet.

 

[Stobzilla]

That should have been more than enough reason for Trump to lose. Same as it was in 2016.

Evidently not and the blind refusal to adjust position on this view is what is going to lose another 4 years to that bufoon.

Climate change tipping point is incoming and will probably even accelerate now with this idiot and Democrats, who have had 4 years to plan, cant even effectively communicate why their guy would be better beyond "Well, at least he isn't Trump"

Get stuffed, they deserve to lose this.

 

[SinNombre]

They were wrong up until about an hour ago though?

Trump has been the favorite for the last 5 hours.

 

[JakeC]

Is their any accurate polling about what percentage of mail in ballots have been for Biden?

 

[sewey89]

My €5 Liverpool/Biden double pays back €15. I could've cashed out for €8.90 before I went to sleep. Now the cash out is €5.38.

This is the most scientific projection out there.

There's still a lot of votes left for Atalanta in the key states

 

[berbatrick]

Over 2 million ballots outstanding in PA alone.

where are you getting that from?

 

[Precaution]

So if Biden wins PA / AZ (which seems so) / Maine and GA (which still has ballots counted mostly Dem votes same with PA) does he win?

 

[TheGame]

But again, that's on the voters. It's not the party that appoints candidates. Democratic voters opted for Biden, for whatever reason.

Agree, just a whole host of errors. Not read the mood of the country at all.

 

[JJ12]

Well they were wrong for the last three months it seems.

Doubt they are wrong with only a small amount of states remaining - soon find out

 

[DavelinaJolie]

Remember when people thought Biden had a chance to win Texas?

Wow.

 

[SinNombre]

So if Biden wins PA / AZ (which seems so) / Maine and GA (which still has ballots counted mostly Dem votes same with PA) does he win?

If he wins PA and GA, then he wins.

They are both toss-ups though.

 

[Sarni]

So if Biden wins PA / AZ (which seems so) / Maine and GA (which still has ballots counted mostly Dem votes same with PA) does he win?

Yes. Seems very difficult though.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Evidently not and the blind refusal to adjust position on this view is what is going to lose another 4 years to that bufoon.

Climate change tipping point is incoming and will probably even accelerate now with this idiot and Democrats, who have had 4 years to plan, cant even effectively communicate why their guy would be better beyond "Well, at least he isn't Trump"

Get stuffed, they deserve to lose this.

It’s so fecking obvious that Trump is a terrible President. If the American public vote him in, then that’s on them. Same way dickhead Bernie bros who refused to vote for Hilary were partially responsible for him winning in 2016.

 

[OleBoiii]

This is incredible

Holy shit, that is pretty much spot on.

 

[TheGame]

 

[SinNombre]

Agree, just a whole host of errors. Not read the mood of the country at all.

this board is left leaning and did the same.

The left likes to ignore bad news and get giddy and complacent on good news.

 

[Ubik]

If he wins PA and AZ, then he wins.

They are both toss-ups though.

He's won AZ.

 

[Vooon]

I'm never going to ever trust polls on US elections ever again, that's for sure. Even with the margins of error this is a massive failure yet again isn't it?

 

[Enigma_87]

Assuming Biden wins Maine (4), NV (6) and AZ (11), which is the current trend, he is at 245 and needs 25 more. (24 to tie, which becomes a loss)

WI = 10
PA = 20
MI = 16
GA= 16
NC = 15

If Biden loses all 3 midwestern states, he needs both Georgia and NC, which looks very hard.
If Trump holds Georgia and NC, then if he holds any 2 of the 3 he wins.

GA and NC looks pretty tight. Generally Biden needs 2 out of those 5.