2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress

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If you get a chance to see any clips it's his left eye, ear side. Whenever he glaces over at Harris it looks quite bad. Healthy eyes don't look like that, it's a sign of infection.
Yep. Didn’t watch much of the debate, just listened to it. What I did see wasn’t focused on Pence up close, he still looked a bit off from afar. I see it now, that eye is quite rosy.
 
I think maybe her handlers decided it was more important to come across as nice, politely assertive, reasonable. Kind, almost, and that way be more likeable. Pence, on the other hand, was prepped for cut snd thrust. Might not help him to win in that sense; the optics of older man vs younger female are not ideal. Think voters won’t be attracted to him even though he thought on his feet and was slick as feck with deflections, etc.
He had some of his sights set on 2024 during this debate. He would have been a fool not to do so. He was laying the foundation for somewhat of a path away from Trump. Acting with a modicum of class was a first step for him.
 
Can they not get capable moderators for these debate? Pence constantly speaking 10-20 seconds longer and discussing topics that they've moved on from.
 
The next debate has been confirmed to be virtual. Common sense, at last!
 
Second Debate Between Biden and Trump to be Virtual

WASHINGTON (AP) — The second presidential debate between President Donald Trump and Democratic nominee Joe Biden will take place virtually amid the fallout from the president’s diagnosis of COVID-19.

The nonpartisan Commission on Presidential Debates debates made the announcement Thursday morning, a week before the two were scheduled to face on in Miami, “in order to protect the health and safety of all involved with the second presidential debate.” The candidates will “participate from separate remote locations,” while the participants and moderator remain in Miami, the commission said.

Trump was diagnosed with the coronavirus a week ago and but in a Tuesday tweet said he looked forward to debating Biden on stage in Miami, “It will be great!” he tweeted.

Biden, for his part, said he and Trump “shouldn’t have a debate” as long as the president remains COVID positive.

Biden told reporters in Pennsylvania that he was “looking forward to being able to debate him” but said “we’re going to have to follow very strict guidelines.”

Trump fell ill with the virus last Thursday, just 48 hours after debating Biden in person for the first time in Cleveland. While the two candidates remained a dozen feet apart during the debate, Trump’s infection sparked health concerns for Biden and sent him to undergo multiple COVID-19 tests before returning to the campaign trail.

Trump was still contagious with the virus when he was discharged from Walter Reed National Military Medical Center on Monday but his doctors have not provided any detailed update on his status. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, those with mild to moderate symptoms of COVID-19 can be contagious for as many as — and should isolate for at least — 10 days.
 
Sounds like a reasonable decision. Could also provide an easy solution to the incessant interrupting.

Yup. I'm curious if Trump will accept this though? We might just end up with no more debates - which necessarily wouldn't be a bad thing I think.
 
Trump ain’t going to like that one bit.
 
Trump cultists will be going crazy with all kind of conspiracy theories about Biden getting fed the questions' etc.
 
Good, that's one less opportunity.

Spoiler: He'll do it.
 
Good, that's one less opportunity.

Spoiler: He'll do it.

I don’t think he will. Two many variables out of his control and I genuinely doubt he has the energy for a long debate. His video releases have all been heavily edited and even doctored over the last week.
 
Much easier to cut his mike if he starts just shouting over Biden and the Moderator in a video call, obviously can't be having that as people may realise he doesn't have anything else
 
I was feeling giddy about fivethirtyeight's current tracker so went and found where Clinton was on Oct 8th. Almost identical to Biden today. Bugger.

Jim Comey, can you please take a f*cking holiday or something?
 
I was feeling giddy about fivethirtyeight's current tracker so went and found where Clinton was on Oct 8th. Almost identical to Biden today. Bugger.

Jim Comey, can you please take a f*cking holiday or something?
That was just Silver's prediction model, but the actual polls were very different back then!
 
The next debate has been confirmed to be virtual. Common sense, at last!
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Edit: If it takes place...
 
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