2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress

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Haha, wow. I would say it's unbelievable what they're doing, but then again, it's perfectly believable with the last three and a half years in mind.

Also, I don't think they believe what they say at all. It's as calculated and orchestrated as propaganda always is. They want to remain in power, and polarize society even more.
 
Do these people actually believe what they say or do they just know it’s what certain people want to here and will get them votes?

They know full well its complete bollocks, their entire act is about selling. They have utter and absolute contempt for the dumb fecks who support them.
 
They know full well its complete bollocks, their entire act is about selling. They have utter and absolute contempt for the dumb fecks who support them.
I was thinking about that watching that montage. If they really believe that, how will they feel if the Democrats win? I take the point that it's all a power game for them and they don't actually care all that much (but imagine giving that Guilfoyle performance if you don't actually care!); but what about their voters, some of whom might genuinely be buying into all of that? The US will have a lot of seriously disillusioned, scared, and/or angry people on the right if the Democrats win this...
 
I was thinking about that watching that montage. If they really believe that, how will they feel if the Democrats win? I take the point that it's all a power game for them and they don't actually care all that much (but imagine giving that Guilfoyle performance if you don't actually care!); but what about their voters, some of whom might genuinely be buying into all of that? The US will have a lot of seriously disillusioned, scared, and/or angry people on the right if the Democrats win this...

And if Trump wins we will have even more scared people in this country, because four more years of Trump, this time emboldened even more, is terrifying.
 
And if Trump wins we will have even more scared people in this country, because four more years of Trump, this time emboldened even more, is terrifying.
Yeah, that kinda goes without saying. Just look at how things exploded (again) in Kenosha. That's going to keep happening and get worse during four more years of Trump.
 
I see a few Norwegian Twitter warriors are starting to pop up with #Qanon and #MAGA in their bios, I mean, what the actual feck is wrong with these people?
 
Yeah, that kinda goes without saying. Just look at how things exploded (again) in Kenosha. That's going to keep happening and get worse during four more years of Trump.

Yeah, It's surreal here in WI. We live in a very liberal county/city, but very near a rural county, so the area encompassed by our Neighborhood App (it's one of those community app's where people can sell stuff, post stuff, etc.) is pretty politically diverse. I am seeing posts from "he is black and therefore a criminal so he deserved it" to "defund all the police now". It's like to different universes, and all within a 15 mile radius.
 
I was thinking about that watching that montage. If they really believe that, how will they feel if the Democrats win? I take the point that it's all a power game for them and they don't actually care all that much (but imagine giving that Guilfoyle performance if you don't actually care!); but what about their voters, some of whom might genuinely be buying into all of that? The US will have a lot of seriously disillusioned, scared, and/or angry people on the right if the Democrats win this...

Yep and some people will be killed. It’s inevitable.
 
Yeah, It's surreal here in WI. We live in a very liberal county/city, but very near a rural county, so the area encompassed by our Neighborhood App (it's one of those community app's where people can sell stuff, post stuff, etc.) is pretty politically diverse. I am seeing posts from "he is black and therefore a criminal so he deserved it" to "defund all the police now". It's like to different universes, and all within a 15 mile radius.

Madison?
 
The Republicans have some fecking cheek. Jesus Christ. Violent mobs of Trumpys are destroying your cities.
 

It's amazing how 'experts' have become the bad guys. Same with the Brexit crowd.

Obviously, talking to an expert does not necessarily mean getting the only and final truth for a variety of reasons; but this enormous antipathy to experts who dare tell the current scientific consensus that you don't like...
 
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It's amazing how 'experts' have become the bad guys. Same with the Brexit crowd.

Obviously, talking to an expert does nog necessarily mean getting the only and final truth for a variety of reasons; but this enormous antipathy to experts who dare tell the current scientific consensus that you don't like...
At least now we know how the dark ages started. It must be fascinating for historians and social archeologists.
 
It's amazing how 'experts' have become the bad guys. Same with the Brexit crowd.

Obviously, talking to an expert does nog necessarily mean getting the only and final truth for a variety of reasons; but this enormous antipathy to experts who dare tell the current scientific consensus that you don't like...

Disdain for intellectuals and the arts is literally one of the 14 characteristics of fascism.
 
Do these people actually believe what they say or do they just know it’s what certain people want to here and will get them votes?



Both, but mainly the latter. Their opponents should stop laughing at this the same way they did last time because if Trump gets reelected it will be carnage. This is full on unapologetic Nationalism with a mafioso styled government. The first election results were seen as a freak aberration with Hillary being part of a perfect storm. Reelection would signal a concrete shift in the fabric of the American mainstream and give Trump a fully legitimized political mandate.

Very scary times.
 
I was thinking about that watching that montage. If they really believe that, how will they feel if the Democrats win? I take the point that it's all a power game for them and they don't actually care all that much (but imagine giving that Guilfoyle performance if you don't actually care!); but what about their voters, some of whom might genuinely be buying into all of that? The US will have a lot of seriously disillusioned, scared, and/or angry people on the right if the Democrats win this...

They don't care about the consequences such as sowing the seeds for domestic terrorism or mass social unrest. They want power over the the most powerful nation on the planet and give a shit about anything else.
 
Trump's doing to win, Biden and Bernie and Nancy and Chuck should kill themselves in a ritual suicide on November 4th, good night.
 
Yep, although to be honest it was the only option once I said "very liberal" other than parts of Milwaukee. :lol:

My sister went there for her undergrad. (I went to IU) Beautiful campus. I remember my first day visiting her -- sitting by the porch in the house she rented with friends and sharing some herbs with one of her room-mates.
Good times.
 
Trump's doing to win, Biden and Bernie and Nancy and Chuck should kill themselves in a ritual suicide on November 4th, good night.
Trump has gained a bit of ground in the battleground states over the past month. Let'e see if the recent events have a further effect.
 
Trump has gained a bit of ground in the battleground states over the past month. Let'e see if the recent events have a further effect.

No he hasn't:
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/florida/
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/pennsylvania/
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/wisconsin/
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/arizona/

It just goes to show how many people are misinformed or misled by selective presentation of data.
 
CBS poll as only 5% of Republicans willing to vote for Biden, 3% less than those who voted for Obama. Dems need to drop this fantasy that there are disgruntled GOP members out there and concentrate on winning over Independents and Progressives.
 
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