So, I am guessing you didn’t read any of the links.Quit your bullshit and get to the point. Am I and other posters in this thread anti-black? Yes or no?
I mean, to be fair the Empire always did seem to run things pretty well. Bet their healthcare was legit.https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/04/trump-john-lewis-impressive-391215
There's dog whistling and there's downright racism. The battle between light and the dark wasn't this clear even in Star fecking wars
Makes sense to me - it's like voting for the NDP or Greens in Canada. But who is available for that vote in the US?Vote for people with a track record that fits with your own thinking. Green party candidate would be my choice.
Coming from a country with the exact same political system (two-party, imposed by the US obviously), voting for the supposedly "lefty" party, does absolutely nothing for the farewell of the people.
Since democracy returned to my country in 1990, the "democrats" equivalent party has been in power most of the time (including the socialist party in that group), and it's been the same as in the USA. Only nice words to get the votes, but when in power, they go against the people and ended up privatizing the whole country. Education, health system, pensions, etc. Plus, all the typical things like saving the big corporations and sending corrupt politicians and businessmen to ethic classes, instead of jail.
It's a fake democracy system, imposed by the economical elites, to make sure, no matter who wins, they win.
For the last elections, a third party came in strong (a true left wing party, imagine something like Bernie Sanders, AOC) but they fell short and eventually, the right wing party ended up in power.
One would think, ohh, so stupid!! hahah why vote for a party with no chances!!?? now you let the right wing to win again. Happy now? (That's the typical thing you read here)
Well, actually, yeah, it ended up very well. The right wingers thought they could keep exploiting the people, but surprise, a huge social awakening happened, and the right wing government has been absolutely unable to complete with any of their original plans. (The same would have happened if the fake "left" would have won)
And the political panorama seems to be going to change for ever, and for good.
So yeah. Any US citizen who wants change in America, needs to vote for decent people with a track record, not for parties who talk nice.
Even if that means a new Trump government. The people will not take it any more Trump or Biden craziness, and will take the streets before letting the elites to keep abusing them.
Almost 50% of the voters in US don't even show up to vote because they know it's the same shit if red or blue wins. (and subconsciously, they think voting third party would be a waste of time because of people like in this thread that keep repeating that)
You can't even script it. 90% of democrats, probably big majority of independents, and also a small but decent chunk of republicans support Medicare for All, but not even a whiff about it from Biden or his team. Their bosses won't allow it.
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) leads Democrat Amy McGrath by 17 points, 53% to 36%.
People aren't revolting right now and they won't revolt. You'll have another 4 years of Trump with half the people making fun of Pelosi while not turning up to vote in mid term elections.
Sorry, saw your profile tag line as Aus!
I wish I shared that optimism. I also wish the pandemic had come maybe 2 months earlier, because then we'd very likely have Bernie as a candidate. But Americans to date have shown even when they try to protest or similar, they can't overtake the institutions that are holding them down. The electoral college is a joke, but protected by the filibuster, which is a joke. The norms that could be used to mitigate Trump have been torn up by Barr and McConnell, there is nothing to stop the man anymore. They are literally sending unmarked federal agents to attack protestors in a city that no only didn't ask for help, but outright refused it.
And this is when he needs reelection! Imagine 4 years of unconstrained dementia-ridden Trump?
Makes sense to me - it's like voting for the NDP or Greens in Canada. But who is available for that vote in the US?
Also, as posters have indicated, Trump does not just bring the usual conservatism. He really wreaks havoc beyond what the US has seen before. That's a bit beyond the sort of damage you might otherwise expect from the GOP.
Do you answer any questions put to you in this thread? fecking exhaustingSo, I am guessing you didn’t read any of the links.
Howie Hawkins is the green party candidate. (The green party invited Bernie to be their candidate... old fart refused)
As for the bolded part, that's good. Small chunks of the GOP don't support him any more as he is making the country ungovernable, which is not in the interests of anybody, specially the economic elites.
The racist feckers he made sure surface and showed their faces, are all being cancelled.
As I said, only 1 in 4 americans (probably less now) supports him.
The country gonna be a best country post Trump no matter what, but people needs to vote for the right people, otherwise, if they keep voting corporate Democrats just because, they gonna keep going in circles, and another Trump will come around soon enough.
I don’t get this attitude. You can’t be bothered to know the difference between racism and anti-blackness. Yet somehow you have convinced yourself that you’re gonna save this country.D
Do you answer any questions put to you in this thread? fecking exhausting
Perfectly logical given that he's negotiating positions with Biden, which would unravel if he were to abscond from the scene to run as a Jill Stein spoiler.
Yeah, but what good came out of that? Biden gonna Biden.
After being fecked by the DNC twice, would have been nice if he had fecked them back (showed a little spine). Taking away the progressive vote and also, bringing back to politics plenty of those 50% US voters who don't vote because they know the DNC/GOP candidates are the same shit with different smell.
It would have been beautiful. Just the inception to the American people, that they have more than the two obvious alternatives (evil and lesser evil).
I hope AOC doesn't become the same when the time comes.
Democrats are so cultist. They feel obligated to defend someone who bailed out banks, didn’t prosecute any of the ceos, and did feck all for those losing their houses. Accordingly to folks like you it was all rosy and the reason for 2016 had very little to do with the previous administration. It’s almost as if you live in an alternate reality and if it didn’t happen to you, it probably isn’t true.
Democrats are so cultist. They feel obligated to defend someone who bailed out banks, didn’t prosecute any of the ceos, and did feck all for those losing their houses. Accordingly to folks like you it was all rosy and the reason for 2016 had very little to do with the previous administration. It’s almost as if you live in an alternate reality and if it didn’t happen to you, it probably isn’t true.
Barack Obama left office with a near 60% approval. It's not just Democrats who like the last Democratic President. The majority of the electorate like him. If he was not term-limited he'd have easily won a third term. Trump was posturing a challenge in 2012 but didn't run probably because he knew Obama would trounce him.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/116479/barack-obama-presidential-job-approval.aspx
Barack Obama left office with a near 60% approval. It's not just Democrats who like the last Democratic President. The majority of the electorate like him. If he was not term-limited he'd have easily won a third term. Trump was posturing a challenge in 2012 but didn't run probably because he knew Obama would trounce him.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/116479/barack-obama-presidential-job-approval.aspx
End of office approval ratings are an interesting marker of popularity. In the modern era, Ronald Reagan has the highest. IN another 40-50 years I doubt historians will view him as such a great President, however. Even now, all the things he's done look very bad from a historical point of view.
Clip is worth watching if you are into cringe.
Less partisanship in those days, no 24/7 news cycles (if he was around today Iran-Contra would have been a huge scandal), and he gets credited rightly or wrongly with the fall of the Soviet Union. Obama had extreme political partisanship from his opponents, his entire presidency was played out good, bad, ugly and indifferent to a 24/7 media, and his party didn't treat him like a deity (when he messed up some comments he owned up to it). And he had the historical first of being the first black president which, in a country that has massive race issues, with lies about his background, his family, his motivations. To come out of that with near 60% shows the extent of his popularity.
The guy is far from perfect but no one is.
There's not going to be 3 people dropping out a day before the Novemeber election, I hope Biden's team know that.
Congratulation Progressive Cori Bush on defeating Lacy Clay in Missouri.
Only reason she won imho bc Jones is rather reviled in many places. Tlaib is despised by many on the left as well. Battle of the bad. Any less controversial candidate than Jones would ve wiped the floor with her.Very happy she booed HRC and proved that the Clintons don't have a mafia grip on Dem candidates anymore (at least in some places).
Tlaib is despised by many on the left as well.
Maybe not outside of Michigan. But it's different around these parts.not seen a bad word about her tbh
Maybe not outside of Michigan. But it's different around these parts.
