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2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress
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- Yes, he was against same sex marriage - like his entire generation - until he led the effort to legalise it under Obama. Again - this is my point, you need to judge where he is today. Were you born at this ominpotent state in which you currently reside, or have you evolved over the course of your life?
- Your point about the women he didn't rape is - given the evidence to date - literally every woman on the face of the planet. So cool argument there, not specious at all.
- You're really going to argue the Obama administration wasn't better for the climate than the preceding and following? I mean, really? You're going to cherry pick a news story?
- On healthcare - you get a choice: one of the people that got the ACA passed or the person who life ambition is to dismantle it. I know who'd I go with.
He's not perfect by any means but these arguments are weak.
truly incredible. republicans were right that liberals only used blasey ford because kavanaugh was on the other team.
A choice that can become President?
And you're still clinging to the same evidence we had last week, without any further support. Give me one rational reason - one - why Reade's story would have changed so dramatically between last year and this year (30 years after the fact). One plausible reason. Articulate why she would come forward last year - unprompted - and claim one thing, and then wait twelve months before changing her story not only from last year, but also from 30 years ago, and take a position that only her brother is willing to testify to (and he of course, changed his story to match).
Further, why has every reporter and major newspaper that has done any depth of investigation decided not to side with her?
I mean, it could be a huge DNC-led deep state coverup spanning magazines, newspapers and so forth. Maybe it is. But for me I have to weigh the balance of evidence here. As I've always said, have her testify under oath, or have him testify under oath, or do some kind of process.
I think that's fair before condemning him as a mass rapist, as you and others seem to gleefully do, presumably because reasons.
The evidence is out there if you want to read it. Its clear that you made up your mind. No use in me retyping what you could easily find on google.
his entire generation was not against same sex marriage
see, bernie sanders: https://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-lgbtq-rights/
what kind of brainworms have you been infested with? biden, obamas "look guys, i'm not too progressive" VP pick led the effort for same sex marriage, holy shit guy
today he is a senile old man who is being credibly accused of rape
this is a good argument for voting for people you want to vote for
you totally understand what i'm saying
sorry i forgot, obama wore a reclying badge once, cool
The ACA is a garbage republican policy that has directly led to the deaths of americans because obama and his supermajority were more concerned with republicans than they are with winning leftist votes
last nights, err, weeks, latest evidence on the tara story
I totally believe that's her mother - it obviously lines up with timing and location. Makes perfect sense to me. As does her story that she ran with 30 years ago, and resurfaced last year, that she felt Biden and his office treated women without due respect, that she felt (what is now more in the vernacular) sexually harassed and that she had to leave because of it. All of that is absolutely believable.
I personally find it less believable that she would choose to stay silent 'out of respect for the senator' if he'd digitally raped her against a wall, which her updated allegation.
Again, that feels strange to me. Maybe I'm too old or something, but I would want some reason for such things.
you're not too old dude, you're just doing rape apologia
He‘s like forest gump
1. Again, Bernie Sanders is hardly typical. And good for Bernie, I like Bernie and wish he was the candidate.
2. In 2012 he was the first public voice of the administration to say that they were going to legalise gay marriage, and he worked seeing it through.
3. Has 'a rapist' switched to 'credibly accused of rape' now? We're making progress!
4. Go ahead, articulate why Bush and Trump have been better for the environment than Obama's tenure.
It's great to be so cynical, negative and doubting of everything, but you're going to achieve anything like that. No one makes changes by staying home. Your choice (asusmign your'e American) in November will be Trump or Biden for President. That is the choice for President. Don't vote that morning, and one of those two will be President.
Would we all like America to liberalise, become more progressive? Of course. But explain to me how you see anything changing between now and November?
Same challenge if you're going to be so steadfast.
One logical, articulated reason to change her story that dramatically, that ties this whole thing together. Is that too much to ask?
you don't even ask your candidate to be consistent and you expect victims of extremely traumatic events to be perfect
rape apologia example 200000
Did you not see my earlier post? That's not new evidence supporting her new allegation. That's corroboration of last year's story. I've listened to it. Have you? It's a mother saying that her daughter found conditions bad, but didn't want to speak to the press out of respect for the senator.
Do you have kids? If your kid came home and told you her boss had raped her, would you sound like that mother?
This is my point. I believe in Occam's Razor.
To be honest neither you nor Silva are articulating in any way a reason why her changing story stacks up, you're just taking an all or nothing position. She said it, so it must be true, he is a rapist. It's very difficult to debate or reason with that, so fair enough, I hope no one in your life ever accuses you of anything.
= whataboutism without a rational argument.
Again, she comes out and says she's gone through deep counselling and finally sees the truth that she's been repressing - cool. That's a logical explanation. She says that last year she didn't want to tell the whole story because she thought accusing him of sexual harassment was enough, but now that the stakes are raised she can't take it anymore? That's fine. Hell, she says she had a book deal pending and had an nda signed so had to wait til now - great, that's a reason too.
I just feel like someone should have something before becoming a rapist in your eyes. Maybe that's naivety.
one of the first thing that happens in rape trials is they explain to jurys that victims aren't perfect, they don't always tell the entire story on their first attempt for example, because rape is extremely traumatic and every time they have to tell the full story it's like getting raped again for them.
again, applying higher standards to a woman going through a traumatic public trial than a man you want to be president of the united states
If you want to apply the same standards, you'd believe Biden's side without question meaning that he was innocent and that his accuser was a liar.
Imagine wasting your breathe defending a pos like Biden. Yikes.
Correct. Only the two party nominees can become President.
i don't want to apply those standards, bernie sanders was also a flawed man before he died and i happily supported him
the thing about these type of posts is that, there is no way you don’t think of yourself as the wise person in coming up with such takes.
While the lives of millions are being destroyed, both parties are taking the opportunity of this pandemic to stuff the pockets of their masters while throwing scraps to people.
We are witnessing evil in our times.
We are witnessing evil in our times.
As Raul said they are the only two candidates right now unless something else happens. No need to act stupid. Trump could die or Biden could too and then it depends on who the convention nominates.
That’s Sunday’s through Wednesdays.
Voters are never wrong unfortunately
Last I checked he is the presumptive nominee and the convention hasn’t happened yet.
It would come down to the DNC, who would obviously choose an appropriate centrist replacement who supports Biden's positions to reflect him beating all other candidates in terms of delegates.
Beto: ‘So you’re telling me there’s a chance...’
it's going to be pretty wild if their solution to their candidate assaulting women is a repeat of 1968
They'd probably pick Cuomo, since he is the hot politician of the moment.
they should definitely pick Cuomo, there isn't a single better demonstration of how few shits the DNC gives than picking the governor with the highest corona body count just because he's on TV a lot
Wouldn’t it be Bloomberg or Mayor Pete?
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