2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress

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So any idea when the results come in and is this delay suspect ?

Will Hiliary be announced as the winner ?
 
Eboue said:
Wow the first time ever the caucus has failed to give results. Cue the chicken littles.


What's that? The app was developed by a pete buttchug supporter? And he paid them money just a few months ago? And their CEO was tweeting support for buttchug just a couple weeks ago? Very trumpy to complain about this massive feckup that only happens when an actual left candidate wins.
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would never have happened if Biden had not been trounced.
we can see the Democratic party morphing into the Trump party in front of our eyes.
 
Redplane said:
Honestly it seems like an overreaction by everyone except for Bernie funny enough. Most people don't give a shit about the Iowa Caucus.. Or any primary for that matter.

Dems would do well to bury this and move on.

The Trump party will keep coming up with conspiracy theories.
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They will wait til the "official" results are released. Bernie's campaign had someone on the ground at all 1500+ precincts and all that data will have been sent back to the Bernie HQ, so they will know the exact voting tallies and how many delegates they will be getting.

If the "official" results don't match their numbers, they will then raise the alarm.
 
Fergies Gum said:
They will wait til the "official" results are released. Bernie's campaign had someone on the ground at all 1500+ precincts and all that data will have been sent back to the Bernie HQ, so they will know the exact voting tallies and how many delegates they will be getting.

If the "official" results don't match their numbers, they will then raise the alarm.
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presumably at every precinct there will have been somebody from at least one of the other campaigns... I can see this ending up with them all having a mass argument over whos figures are right.
 
GiddyUp said:
We are surrounded by fecking idiots.
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The thing is we can watch this video and laugh. As she's clearly an idiot. Twitter just gives huge voice to these exact idiots and that amounts to lots of conspiracy theory nonsense getting traction
 
Gut feel is now nobody will get a massive bounce from Iowa as the results will be lost among the state of the union, then acquittal then into New Hampshire - Im not sure if that will place more emphasis on New Hampshire or if it will just ensure a number of campaigns staying viable longer than they really are untill running out of money / momentum for the super tuesday states... I think the latter would be the worst case scenario for the dems but I can see it happening
 
It would seem that way. The confusion is diluting the victory, for whoever won. They’ll all claim victory and campaign in NH on that.
Trump is right, he won.
 
utdalltheway said:
It would seem that way. The confusion is diluting the victory, for whoever won. They’ll all claim victory and campaign in NH on that.
Trump is right, he won.
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Again- this seems like an over reaction supported by a lot in the media treating this as the most terrible thing to happen. No one will remember this a month from now.

The only danger imho there truly exists imho is Trump associates sowing discord at the next primary to keep the supposed mess going. Can't see how any dem would truly benefit from causing continuous uproar.
 
Red Dreams said:
The 'results' will be out tonight.
There will be disputes of course.

But whoever wins will carry that victory to NH.

All this uncertainty has been created by the Democratic Party and it has hurt the Iowa state party the most.
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might be... (from CNN)

Senior Iowa Dem says the "goal today is clarity and getting to results"
From CNN's Dan Merica

A senior Iowa Democratic tells CNN that while the “goal today is clarity and getting to results,” the source was unable to commit that all results will be released today.
The party will hold another call with campaigns later this morning, the Democrat said, and right now the party is wholly focused on “working towards today” for getting results out.
The Democrats described a chaotic and tense situation inside the Iowa Democratic Party’s boiler room at the Iowa Events Center on last night and this morning, with top party officials making the “strategic decision not to release any data that has any questions.”
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Redplane said:
Again- this seems like an over reaction supported by a lot in the media treating this as the most terrible thing to happen. No one will remember this a month from now.

The only danger imho there truly exists imho is Trump associates sowing discord at the next primary to keep the supposed mess going. Can't see how any dem would truly benefit from causing continuous uproar.
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It’s just too easy for Trump. And who made it that way?
He’ll continue to snipe at the Dems all the way, focusing more on whoever he thinks is a threat. By the time November comes around if the Dems are not united, he’ll be stronger.
 
Senior Adviser Symone Sanders seems to be calling into question the voting .
 
sun_tzu said:
indeed - regardless which one of the nominees the dems end up with
i suppose there is the trump factor though and who knows if he will do something between now and November that even his base find a step too far? (looks unlikely though)
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Even if he eats a baby live on fox news they will say it's because the child was the antichrist and god told him to do it. With pence nodding in the background.
 
Drifter said:
Senior Adviser Symone Sanders seems to be calling into question the voting .
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Biden's deputy campaign manager did the same last night. Can you imagine the outrage from the Dem establishment if a senior Sanders staffer did the same.
 
Fergies Gum said:
Biden's deputy campaign manager did the same last night. Can you imagine the outrage from the Dem establishment if a senior Sanders staffer did the same.
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didn't she used to be a senior sanders staffer?
and lets be honest in releasing results from a selected number of precincts senior Sanders staffers are certainly playing as many games as anybody else in there - bloomberg and trump will be the only two who come out of the pissing contest not covered in piss
 
Dipper said:


How insanely uninformed do you have to be to not know that Buttigieg is gay?
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Is this autoplaying (just the audio) after the page being open for a bit for anyone else? At least it does when I scroll up this page, past Pexbo quoting it. Very annoying.

Pexbo said:
99% sure that she's a bulldyke so I'm not sure why she's offended.
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Come on...
 
sun_tzu said:
didn't she used to be a senior sanders staffer?
and lets be honest in releasing results from a selected number of precincts senior Sanders staffers are certainly playing as many games as anybody else in there - bloomberg and trump will be the only two who come out of the pissing contest not covered in piss
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Symone Sanders switched her support to Biden for this election.
 
Maybe Schiff needs to take the reins of the party - seems to be the only one truly focused enough to understand what is at play. There is no McConnell or other asshole whipping the Dems into gear and the supposed liberal media seems all too content to slap the Dems across the face (in other words that kind of defeats the Rs biased media argument but whatever..).
 
Redplane said:
Maybe Schiff needs to take the reins of the party - seems to be the only one truly focused enough to understand what is at play. There is no McConnell or other asshole whipping the Dems into gear and the supposed liberal media seems all too content to slap the Dems across the face (in other words that kind of defeats the Rs biased media argument but whatever..).
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No way. Schiff was too cowardly to call the Republican bluff and say he would put up the Bidens to testify. He is a boot licker for the military industrial complex. And I've actually met the guy in person embarrassed to admit.
 
Dipper said:


How insanely uninformed do you have to be to not know that Buttigieg is gay?
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yeah it would seem strange to not be aware - particularly if it was an issue you cared about

personally i think it would be really interesting to see how countries like saudi reacted to a visit from the president and the erm "First Gentleman?" ...
 
Fergies Gum said:
Biden's deputy campaign manager did the same last night. Can you imagine the outrage from the Dem establishment if a senior Sanders staffer did the same.
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Can there be anymore outrage from the Establishment Dems towards Bernie and what he stands for.
 
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