He just refused to commit to voting Warren over Trump. I think it's clear what kind of a person he is.
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He just refused to commit to voting Warren over Trump. I think it's clear what kind of a person he is.
Well some scholar refused to vote for Clinton over Trump. We are all special in a way
Clinton is worse than Warren by several orders of magnitude so okay.
True but she wasn't worse than Trump.
Ainsley might want to consider that alot of Americans have figured out that working 100 hours a week isn't a life.
I think she would have caused more harm in foreign policy.
Doubt it but it's a dead horse anyway. Just goes to show that you look a tad hypocritical criticizing gates when you refused to vote for a relatively better candidate. Just vote the dem candidate this time but let's hope it's our guy Bernie this time.
It's not hypocritical at all. There's a vast difference between Clinton and warren as you yourself have acknowledged.
"it's the American way"
And then these are the same people that kiss Trumps ass when he gives American farmers billions in subsidies to prop up their businesses
In what ways do you think she would have been worse. I only ask as I am not sure what she would have done
I think she would have escalated the situation in Syria and made more of an effort to complete the coup in Venezuela.
Of course it is. You know it too
I feel trump has done both those things this year alone
They act as if the Gilded Age is something to aspire to.
But then say that "handouts will make people never work"... as if farmers don't.
Hillary was a shit candidate , but to claim her foreign policy would have been worse than the current state of affairs is some deep head in sand burying.
I remember you saying that America is in another guilded age and I feel you are spot on
Good, if someone insisted I told them who I would vote for publicly I'd tell them to go feck themselves. Gates isn't a politician, he's a businessman and the face of one of the world's biggest companies. If he comes out all 'Yeah feck Trump man!' it's likely to lead to a big Trump backlash and his supporters boycotting Microsoft products. Microsoft would lose a shitload of money, he might lose influence with conservative billionaires he's trying to get to sign up to his giving pledge and we'd gain what exactly? Who is it that is suddenly going to change their vote to Warren just because Bill Gates said so?
What is this obsession with trying to get non-politicians to shout about their political opinions? This is exactly the kind of reason we end up with twats like Trump in office.
He is not the face of Microsoft though . Not for the last 10 years.
He is though. If you ask people for the first name to come to mind when you say Microsoft, it will be Gates name 999 times out of a 1000. He also still owns a massive amount of shares in the company, so if they wanted to hurt Gates they would definitely go after Microsoft.
He owns 1.3% of the company. That's a very small part of his portfolio , which is very diversified.
Second, nobody would go after Microsoft. Their
entire business model has changed mostly towards B2B sales with the exit from mobile and focus on cloud services . Also, windows and office are almost entirely targeting enterprise or smaller businesses.
In summary, nothing would happen to Gates if he said , feck That Trump guy, I am never voting for him.
The only good part about it is that when we had the 1st one, it ended with the Progressive Era. We could do with a 2nd one of those.
Hes not been good but I think she would have been worse
She's been a war monger he entire career. Trump obviously has no committed ideals but through just basic incompetence and dementia hes managed to forget about Venezuela. That wouldn't happen under Clinton.
I think hes going to vote for Trump.
Demented or not he:
1. Withdrew from the Iran Nuclear Deal.
2. Withdrew from the Paris Climate Accord.
3. Screwed the long standing US allies the Kurds, by moving troops from one place to another , allowing Turkey to occupy and start ethnic cleansing.
Never mind the disastrous short term effects of these decisions, the long term is even more concerning, because it broke the unwritten rule to keep existing agreements between administrations. Now , other governments are wondering , what's the worth of a deal with the USA.
Again, he hasnt been good. But I think she would have been worse and I've explained how already.
You think she would have invaded Venezuela.
Possibly. At the very least I think she would have been more competent at a coup.
Trump would possibly invade Venezuela if it were beneficial somehow to Russian foreign policy. Its not, so he wont. So i guess that makes him better?
Not only that but it would have locked in another decade of corporate neo-liberalism that would have set the progressive movement back another decade or worse which might be crucial.
for me I adhere to the Zizek argument. At least a Trump allows this window of opportunity for Bernie (Goldwater from the left) that would have been completely neutered with another Clinton reign. Clinton might have been slightly better in the short term but in the long term could have been far worse.
Can't be electing corporate neo-libs now or the next Trump will be competent authoritarianism and progressive policy is doomed for our generation.
Nearly 20 years now where the US would like to see a regime change in Venezuela, through neocon republican government and centrist democrat, and you really think that Hillary Clinton would be the one that would try and expend significant political capital to finally see it done? I don't think the public cares enough for any President to deem that a good move, politically. Similar to how Obama pulled back from the "red line" in Syria once he realized he couldn't get support in Congress, the public in general or even the UK Parliament.
I want to see a different government in Venezuela, but you sit me in the White House and make me a self-interested politician looking for re-election, and I'm surely not staking anything on Venezuela or Latin America in general.
Trump tried it, he was just too incompetent to pull it off. I think Hillary would get it done. She's always been more of a hawk than Obama anyway.
Don't say that, it makes me too sad to think of what could have been.
I get what @Eboue is saying wrt Gates - whilst he's certainly not the most evil billionaire, he's massively benefitted from the current rules of taxation that allow his wealth to exponentially grow despite not actively being involved in the business. Yes, he's paid a lot in taxes in absolute numbers, but I bet his tax rate/bracket is not that bad. Likely he has paid next to nothing on $MSFT appreciation, probably has setup a bunch of trusts which coupled with his foundation and charities have kept his tax rate low.
Biden Sliding .Bring in a Billionaire to fight of the Progressives.
That and a growing sentiment that Warren can't win.
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