Red Dreams
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You doing alright?
Until they prove themselves otherwise, everyone should be given a chance.
You doing alright?
That’s why I asked if you’re doing alright. You were pretty high on her.Until they prove themselves otherwise, everyone should be given a chance.
Of course. I still like her stance on being anti-war.That’s why I asked if you’re doing alright. You were pretty high on her.
I think Eboue said he would vote for Beto at one point too.I'll help you out:
Only in a hypothetical between 3 folks he doesn’t really like (Pete, Kamala, Beto)...I think Eboue said he would vote for Beto at one point too.
With the caveat that i will probably change my mind several times in the next couple years, I think of those 3 I could vote for beto only.
Point is he's not Bernie or bust like he was previously described to be by a poster in here (forget who it was)Only in a hypothetical between 3 folks he doesn’t really like (Pete, Kamala, Beto)...
Ah, gotcha. Correct.Point is he's not Bernie or bust like he was previously described to be by a poster in here (forget who it was)
Switzerland has actual mandates though so they’re still universal healthcare. They’re also not allowed to make profits off basic medical coverage. It’s good for them but I don’t see that working here because of the insurance lobbies here having too much power. Better for everyone if those companies went under.
Swiss per-capita spending on healthcare is 2nd in the world after the US. My friend there had to spend something like 14% of his (pretty awesome) salary on health insurance, and this wasn't even the best plan.
Private insurance completely regulated by the government. is a Universal health care ran by private companies. So health care still public in a political sense but the ones that manage it are private, so not comparable
It's not remotely feasible here and it's not what anyone is proposing and it's not something with broad support so thanks for that slice of life view of switzerland but it's not relevant to this discussion.
She is anti war, that's why she met with the war criminal Assad?Of course. I still like her stance on being anti-war.
Bernie was and still is the man.
Price & service competition.Why would private insurance be better than public insurance?
Until they prove themselves otherwise, everyone should be given a chance.
Price & service competition.
Price & service competition.
We're talking insurers not providers though. So why would a private system in which profits are taken out be better than a public system where profits are put back in?
My point was that it is possible to have a working system which has on it only private insurance. It actually works in Switzerland, which is why I provided it as an example. What I think is important is to have a reduction on what people pay for the insurance, and to put every person to have an insurance. If (s)he cannot afford one, then the state should be able to give it for free. It if is totally public, or a very regulated market of private insurance companies, is not as important (in principle) as giving healthcare to everyone.
About the pricing @berbatrick , that seems a bit too much. I had only basic insurance when I lived there (which gave me what I needed, though it has some deductibles, but affordable), and I was paying 230CHF, which is less than 10% of Switzerland's wage salary. If he had a decent salary, it would have been closer to 5%. 14% is probably if he has also his partner and eventual kids, anyway...
For what is worth, I believe that that mandatory public insurance complemented (if the person chooses) by some private insurance is the best system (for example Germany has it that way).
She is anti war, that's why she met with the war criminal Assad?
She revealed herself when she visited Trump Tower during the transition to audition for an administration job.
Why would private insurance be better than public insurance?
Nothing wrong with that. Even Bernie and Pelosi were willing to work with Trump.
They weren’t willing to work for Trump.
Working for the President is working for the American people.
Of course we have seen how perverted Trump has made the position.
Under normal Presidents. She went there at the behest of Bannon to meet with Trump about a job, so whatever she says has to be taken with a massive pinch of salt.
Just realised this woman is a windvane
I'd like to get out first.just nuke the whole country
I'll help you out:
@Eboue should the bernie-bros get together and do a circle-cancellation
once again, exposure to liberals makes me so sympathetic to the bolsheviks.