2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress

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Florida Man said:
Don't brag about reading policies when you are demonstrating your poor reading comprehension skills. I referenced wall street bailouts in response to your asinine comment about magic wand waiving. There was no intention nor was it implied that it was a discussion about the merits of those decisions.

So let's get back to the original point. You equated boldness to Trump, to put it simply. I listed three of arguably the best presidents in US history who were known for, believe it or not, making bold decisions. But you slid out of answering that like Biden slid out of answering certain questions last night.
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I slid out because you're twisting my words. I said being bold alone means nothing. Trump makes bold (stupid) decisions all the time.

Biden is bold in my books for saying it how it is rather than pandering to voters on every issue even if his take on some things isn't as sexy. Of course it is sexier to say "FREE MEDICARE FOR ALL" vs "option to go public vs stick with private" but he sticks to a policy that will WORK rather than what will sell.

What do you do when you don't have solid policies or arguments? You start throwing buzzwords and talk about being bold. Similar to how Bernie answers funding his programs with "taxing the top 1 percent". Throw in a buzzword. Be bold.
 
shamans said:
I slid out because you're twisting my words. I said being bold alone means nothing. Trump makes bold (stupid) decisions all the time.

Biden is bold in my books for saying it how it is rather than pandering to voters on every issue even if his take on some things isn't as sexy. Of course it is sexier to say "FREE MEDICARE FOR ALL" vs "option to go public vs stick with private" but he sticks to a policy that will WORK rather than what will sell.

What do you do when you don't have solid policies or arguments? You start throwing buzzwords and talk about being bold. Similar to how Bernie answers funding his programs with "taxing the top 1 percent". Throw in a buzzword. Be bold.
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shamans said:
No it's not. In fact, talking about "being bold" is just a ploy used by politicians in making less informed voters believe they are somehow talking this big leap towards progress that others didn't. It doesn't work like that.

Making bold outlandish decisions don't make them great. Trump makes bold decisions all the time. In fact, what you're saying is exactly something his support is proud of -- "Isn't scared!"
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Not found: I said being bold alone means nothing.

How can I twist your words when you do so yourself? No wonder you like Biden.
 
MJJ said:
One 9 minute speech and people are drooling over a terrorist sympathiser and justifier.
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I still don't see this connection with Tulsi. What makes her a terrorist sympathizer?

Furthermore would you consider any politician who talks positively or takes the side of Saudi Arabia and Israel a terrorist sympathizer as well?
 
Florida Man said:
I still don't see this connection with Tulsi. What makes her a terrorist sympathizer?

Furthermore would you consider any politician who talks positively or takes the side of Saudi Arabia and Israel a terrorist sympathizer as well?
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Yes, if any politician defends the abuse of palestine or the yemen genocide then they are a terrorist sympathizer.

This is a very good article on her, she has previously justified gujrat's targetting muslim killing, is a member of a terrorist organisation(RSS) and believes in right wing nationalism.

https://theintercept.com/2019/01/05/tulsi-gabbard-2020-hindu-nationalist-modi/
 
MJJ said:
Yes, if any politician defends the abuse of palestine or the yemen genocide then they are a terrorist sympathizer.

This is a very good article on her, she has previously justified gujrat's targetting muslim killing, is a member of a terrorist organisation(RSS) and believes in right wing nationalism.

https://theintercept.com/2019/01/05/tulsi-gabbard-2020-hindu-nationalist-modi/
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Interesting article, appreciate it.

If anything, she's not getting near the presidency anyway and I'm thankful that she tore a hole into Harris.
 
oneniltothearsenal said:
Biden can't talk for 60 seconds off script without stumbling over his words and sounding underprepared. Trump would absolutely annihilate him in a debate based on yesterday and his June performances. Biden is past it. I know the corporate media is going to prop him up until his drop occurs but I can't see how anyone could have watched his 5 hours of debates so far and concluded he is up for it.

I don't think it gets that far myself. I think the difference in intelligence between Warren and him is going to become very clear when they are finally on the same stage together. I really don't think Biden has it in him to finish this primary after seeing him. He's already like a second term Reagan
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Trump can't speak for 6 seconds on script without stumbling over his words and sounding unprepared. Not that I agree with Boycott, I don't, and I don't like Biden he needs to feck off but where is this sudden ability for Trump to speak coherently coming from that's going to have him annihilate anybody over the age of high school graduation?
 
Zarlak said:
Trump can't speak for 6 seconds on script without stumbling over his words and sounding unprepared. Not that I agree with Boycott, I don't, and I don't like Biden he needs to feck off but where is this sudden ability for Trump to speak coherently coming from that's going to have him annihilate anybody over the age of high school graduation?
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Oddly enough Biden's schtick would match up very favorably with Trump's polemics.
 
MJJ said:
One 9 minute speech and people are drooling over a terrorist sympathiser and justifier.
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She's definitely a snake. The US equivalent of Priti Patel, nice to look at and often says the right things but lacks any sincerity and has some "interesting" views on certain foreign conflicts and links to groups.

That said, I did enjoy her smoking Harris. Poor Kamala seemed to have lost her confidence for the rest of the debate.
 
Aboutreika18 said:
She's definitely a snake. The US equivalent of Priti Patel, nice to look at and often says the right things but lacks any sincerity and has some "interesting" views on certain foreign conflicts and links to groups.

That said, I did enjoy her smoking Harris. Poor Kamala seemed to have lost her confidence for the rest of the debate.
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An appropriate term for her.

 
Tulsi Gabbard, what a rehearsed cliche of a politician. She should stick to beating the crap out of Harris and giving us some entertainment. The fact that someone like her is even in the running is concerning.
 
Florida Man said:
Not found: I said being bold alone means nothing.

How can I twist your words when you do so yourself? No wonder you like Biden.
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You need to calm down. We both want the same thing but I personally do not buy into the whole "we have to be bold" narrative of Warren. We literally have to do what is common sense: get back to what Obama was trying to do and fix the healthcare system and end all the negativity that's happening with Trump.

We do not need a revolution. Just a nice solid kick to trump and getting back on the track. You don't think Obama achieved much and are attributing rise of right wing to him as well so this discussion isn't going anywhere. I thought Obama was excellent, at least his direction was.
 
shamans said:
You need to calm down. We both want the same thing but I personally do not buy into the whole "we have to be bold" narrative of Warren. We literally have to do what is common sense: get back to what Obama was trying to do and fix the healthcare system and end all the negativity that's happening with Trump.

We do not need a revolution. Just a nice solid kick to trump and getting back on the track. You don't think Obama achieved much and are attributing rise of right wing to him as well so this discussion isn't going anywhere. I thought Obama was excellent, at least his direction was.
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:lol:
 


Reckon a lot of Biden's campaign will be him doubling down on the Obama connection. Probably not an awful approach.
 
To be fair to Biden he is the only one up there that isn't making false promises or just playing to the crowd .
 
Eboue said:
:lol:

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Sharing clips out of context to use as an attack. Why am I not surprised. Why don't you educate yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancer_Breakthroughs_2020

Biden has referred to this more than a few times. He genuinely believes we can cure cancers if enough resources are allocated and he never said the solution will develop under his tenure.

But yeah keep sharing such clips, you're winning the social media likes war.
 
Eboue said:
Changing the healthcare system to be similar to every other western first world country - unrealistic
Curing cancer in the next 5 years - realistic

Well done dude
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:lol: You have to laugh.

Pity though, that the stakes for millions are not funny.
 
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