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Gillibrand talked a lot and said nothing.
Pete admitted he could not get his job done in his small town...but he can do the job as president.

They both wont go far.
It takes balls to admit a mistake, and it doesn't seem to have backfired too much based on the media's analysis of the debates. Hopefully when candidates drop out, he will get shown up by the juggernauts.
 
Kamala Harris disagrees with statewide police body-camera regulations

By Christopher Cadelago

MAY 27, 2015 01:16 PM

ouch :lol:
 
It takes balls to admit a mistake, and it doesn't seem to have backfired too much based on the media's analysis of the debates. Hopefully when candidates drop out, he will get shown up by the juggernauts.

He could not do anything else. It is a major story.

But he is hardly a realistic candidate.

And on policies he is not where the party is. It was a fight to move left. Nuanced arguments about when was all we heard. Bernie is there waiting with Warren pretty close.
The new center.
 
He could not do anything else. It is a major story.

But he is hardly a realistic candidate.

And on policies he is not where the party is. It was a fight to move left. Nuanced arguments about when was all we heard. Bernie is there waiting with Warren pretty close.
The new center.
He's well spoken but he doesn't have that alpha personality that's required to be President.
 
The Midwest is a different place 2020 compared to 2008 and 2012.

WI, MN and OH especially ...immigration is high on lists of concerns.

Where the DNC is about immigration is not where these states are.
MN will come through because of the two huge counties. It will be harder in WI. OH is Trump country. Only Bernie has a good chance there because he simply speaks to the truth without hedging.
 
The Midwest is a different place 2020 compared to 2008 and 2012.

WI, MN and OH especially ...immigration is high on lists of concerns.

Where the DNC is about immigration is not where these states are.
MN will come through because of the two huge counties. It will be harder in WI. OH is Trump country. Only Bernie has a good chance there because simply speaks to the truth without hedging.
They are as far away from Mexico as can be. Don't they realize they have other real problems? Immigration is not the reason why plants shut down and replace workers with robots.
 
In a small town that does not reflect his state.

Pete talks very well with his articulate, soothing voice. He has basically talked his way into contention and I don't suspect that will slow down. The more people see of him, the greater the chance of him rising in the polls.
 
No Democratic nominee can win without the African American vote, much less the GE.

Besides he does not have any policies that addresses their needs.
I agree with this. He can’t win the nomination. What he can do though is position himself for a position in a Democratic administration with his work in South Bend’s economy.
 
Time for the others to drop out except this lot

Biden 32 (-4)
Warren 18 (+6)
Sanders 18 (-)
Harris 7 (+1)
Buttigieg 5 (-1)
Booker 4 (+1)

That wont happen unless they run out of money. Even if they don't win, a lot of the minor candidates are benefiting from the exposure and may be in line for future cabinet jobs depending on how they present themselves here.
 
Gillibrand, Klobuchar, Ryan, Delaney, Beto, Hickenlooper, Inslee, Swallwell, Bennet all need to immediately get out.

I’d say Yang and Tulsi too but I believe their ideas still need to be heard even though their chances are zero now.

Keep De Blasio and Williamson just for the entertainment.
 
Gillibrand, Klobuchar, Ryan, Delaney, Beto, Hickenlooper, Inslee, Swallwell, Bennet all need to immediately get out.

I’d say Yang and Tulsi too but I believe their ideas still need to be heard even though their chances are zero now.

Keep De Blasio and Williamson just for the entertainment.

I'm ok with Tulsi with her 'no war' mantra carrying on and Yang with his UBI bullshit, but I think Beto and Klobuchar should run for some time so that he can get some exposure and do something useful with their own states. Others should feck off including De Blasio and Willamson with her ' I will make love to you pressiiiident and win' bullshit
 
I'm ok with Tulsi with her 'no war' mantra carrying on and Yang with his UBI bullshit, but I think Beto and Klobuchar should run for some time so that he can get some exposure and do something useful with their own states. Others should feck off including De Blasio and Willamson with her ' I will make love to you pressiiiident and win' bullshit
I don’t know how Gillibrand’s constituents feel about her but Beto will kill his political career if he keeps with the same strategy or the “we’re gonna work together” punchline. And honestly I’m fine with that. The guy is a fake.
 
This is fantastic...and long overdue.



If she's relying on small donors and not bundlers or PACs how would she have rewarded "wealthy donors" with jobs? $2700 is the maximum and I am confident she would get that a few thousand times if she was the general election candidate.
 
Gillibrand, Klobuchar, Ryan, Delaney, Beto, Hickenlooper, Inslee, Swallwell, Bennet all need to immediately get out.

I’d say Yang and Tulsi too but I believe their ideas still need to be heard even though their chances are zero now.

Keep De Blasio and Williamson just for the entertainment.

Inslee should be the climate change czar of whoever wins.

And yes, I could use more gaffes from De Blasio
 
If she's relying on small donors and not bundlers or PACs how would she have rewarded "wealthy donors" with jobs? $2700 is the maximum and I am confident she would get that a few thousand times if she was the general election candidate.

Your prickly attitude to other candidates just because they aren't Bernie is getting tiresome.
 
Bernie/Warren or Warren/Bernie would be the juggernaut dream ticket and even more so when Biden gets smacked around by Harris again.
 
Thnk you. Now tell me how she was going to find wealthy donors to fill posts if she doesn't them.

That's none of your fecking problem though, is it? Maybe she'll make it a rule so that others can't do it. I mean for a long fecking time, you lot have been thumping your chests about 27 dollar average. The reasoning is sound, she's putting pressure on others to do it as well.

If Bernie put this out, you would be calling it 'Great move' as you should.
 
If Bernie put this out, you would be calling it 'Great move' as you should.

That's none of your fecking problem though, is it?

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Maybe she'll make it a rule so that others can't do it.

From the article -

That’s why I’m pledging to put America’s national interests ahead of campaign donations and end the corrupt practice of selling cushy diplomatic posts to wealthy donors — and I call on everyone running for President to do the same. I won’t give ambassadorial posts to wealthy donors or bundlers — period.

So she's not planning that. She's pledging to do that herself. Tell me again, how would she pick out wealthy donors when she claims to reject them
 
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So she's not planning that. She's pledging to do that herself. Tell me again, how would she pick out wealthy donors when she claims to reject them

Her point is wealthy donors won't be given ambassadorial jobs and deserving candidates would. Maybe she won't have wealthy donors or maybe she'll change her mind about it later. Once she becomes president, maybe people will donate money to her inauguration campaigns. Or she may start a charity and people would give money there expecting handouts. But why do you need to bitch about this just because she may not wealthy donors? :wenger:
 
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