2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress

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It would be great if Biden pushed for the full weight of the courts to go after him when he leaves office. Nail him with everything you can.
 
It would be great if Biden pushed for the full weight of the courts to go after him when he leaves office. Nail him with everything you can.
Pretty much zero chance of that happening. The entire Dem party don’t have that much backbone between them.
 
at times during his 4 years it was almost as if it’s a comedy movie but the finale is stronger than anything that came before.

It is has been a movie in the making (whether you would classify as a comedy is debatable) from the day Trump threw in his hat in the ring for the Republication nomination. It would not surprise me if in due course "The Trump Years" a Blockbuster movie is released. You can bet there have been cameras rolling virtually everyday in the Whitehouse. Just look at the backdrop lighting for many of Donald's 'appearances' in various parts of the Whitehouse, that's very expensive backdrop lighting for just one or two balcony shots or lawn photo-ops!

This last reel of him being removed by force from the Whitehouse, possibly even at gunpoint, by presumably Secret Service Officers will begin the sequel, which will be all about his 'martyrdom'.
 
This last reel of him being removed by force from the Whitehouse, possibly even at gunpoint, by presumably Secret Service Officers will begin the sequel, which will be all about his 'martyrdom'.

I don't see that happening, it's highly unlikely Trump has that developped a plan, it's mostly seems to be ego at this point. And even Trump supporters have respect for the military or secret service officers, if he's removed this way, only his ultra hard core supporters will be galvanized, and i doubt there's enough of them to make such a difference.
 
And even Trump supporters have respect for the military or secret service officers

Do they though? Really? Because they didn't seem to show much of it when he was calling military personnel 'losers' or insulting Gold Star families, or turning up late for memorial day services, or insulting war heroes, or saying he likes soldiers who 'didn't get captured', or pardoning war criminals, etc etc etc.
 
Do they though? Really? Because they didn't seem to show much of it when he was calling military personnel 'losers' or insulting Gold Star families, or turning up late for memorial day services, or insulting war heroes, or saying he likes soldiers who 'didn't get captured', or pardoning war criminals, etc etc etc.

It was pretty easy to discard most ot these reports saying it was only MSM being against trump, hear-say blabla. Seeing him escorted out of the white house is a different story.
 
It’s a combination of things for me:


1. Delaying the inevitable and avoiding Biden getting access to intelligence reports that Trump doesn’t want him to see. One reason he has installed his lackeys into IC roles in the past few days, in case Biden wins in court and gains access to them.
2. Said lackeys are currently purging IC records of evidence of wrong doing by Trump and his cronies over the last 4 years and beyond.
3. Outright denial of his defeat because he’s a narcissistic wanker who cannot cope with humiliation. If he’s going to lose, he’s going to have half the country contesting the validity of that loss for the rest of recorded history.
4. The slimmest of slim chances that he can ignore reality and get his own way through sheer brute force and pigheadedness like he has done for the whole of his life. I think he genuinely believes that if he’s still in the White House at the end of January, there will be a big legal battle to remove him and if he can stoke up enough hate and anger, then there will be fear of what his removal might trigger.
5. At the very worst for Trump, he will completely destroy Biden’s chance of a smooth transition and cripple the first year or so of his presidency which will have a knock on effect and Trump will hope to capitalise on that in four years time. Despite the fact he will likely be dead, bankrupt or up to his fat neck in legal proceedings.
 
It would be great if Biden pushed for the full weight of the courts to go after him when he leaves office. Nail him with everything you can.
As much as I'd love to see that happen I don't think they'll be particularly aggressive in laying down the law on him. Firstly because they don't have a backbone as already mentioned, but I also imagine them to be fearful of feeding the martyrdom narrative of the evil dems going after the MAGA saviour who died for our sins.

Trump will likely be knee deep in it without Dem intervention anyway, let's see him crawl out of the proverbial swamp he's ironically drowned himself in once he leaves office.
 
It’s a combination of things for me:


1. Delaying the inevitable and avoiding Biden getting access to intelligence reports that Trump doesn’t want him to see. One reason he has installed his lackeys into IC roles in the past few days, in case Biden wins in court and gains access to them.
2. Said lackeys are currently purging IC records of evidence of wrong doing by Trump and his cronies over the last 4 years and beyond.
3. Outright denial of his defeat because he’s a narcissistic wanker who cannot cope with humiliation. If he’s going to lose, he’s going to have half the country contesting the validity of that loss for the rest of recorded history.
4. The slimmest of slim chances that he can ignore reality and get his own way through sheer brute force and pigheadedness like he has done for the whole of his life. I think he genuinely believes that if he’s still in the White House at the end of January, there will be a big legal battle to remove him and if he can stoke up enough hate and anger, then there will be fear of what his removal might trigger.
5. At the very worst for Trump, he will completely destroy Biden’s chance of a smooth transition and cripple the first year or so of his presidency which will have a knock on effect and Trump will hope to capitalise on that in four years time. Despite the fact he will likely be dead, bankrupt or up to his fat neck in legal proceedings.

Also, I think people underestimate how confortable it is to be a US senator/representative. Right now, GOP senators can still claim that the EC didn't designate Biden yet or whatever, but once it's done, they won't take the risk to loose everything just to follow Trump into the abyss. I'm almost sure that Trump's support will end once all states certify their vote or worst case scenario, after the EC vote.
 
I can see Trump being whisked away from the WH at 3am, hunkering down at Mar-a-Lago and refusing to appear or say anything in public.
Meanwhile, experts are saying the US is on course for 2,200 deaths per DAY by mid-January. He's insane..
 
The Supreme Court has already ruled on faithless electors after 2016, you can’t do it. The play they are mooting is to get Republican legislatures in the contested states to send alternative slates of electors, but it will just means an impasse similar to 1876 and if the matter doesn’t get resolved by Jan 20 then Pelosi becomes acting President.

The scenario when each state has a vote in the House only applies for an electoral tie/no one won a majority.

As much as liberals like to wallow in disaster porn, you guys need to take a chill pill. Michael Moore was on The Hill rambling about how Trump is an evil genius and Barr was pulling the strings stealing the election for him before Nov.3rd. It’s unhealthy.

Yeah the articles I've read on this all seem to come from the below law journal. Which quite frankly is scarily on point at nearly everything, other than the Dem nominee being Warren.

https://lawecommons.luc.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2719&context=luclj

It certainly isn't as simple as Pelosi becoming acting president though if you read that. Pence and McConnel have methods to frustrate and dispute such an appointment. It'll be spectacularly pathetic stuff if they do.
 
It would be great if Biden pushed for the full weight of the courts to go after him when he leaves office. Nail him with everything you can.

Biden can simply hire an Attorney General he thinks will do a good job. At that point, all future communication between President and AG is minimal in order to avoid any perception the AG is working on behalf of the President's political interests. That is what makes the past four years such an aberration .
 
It’s a combination of things for me:


1. Delaying the inevitable and avoiding Biden getting access to intelligence reports that Trump doesn’t want him to see. One reason he has installed his lackeys into IC roles in the past few days, in case Biden wins in court and gains access to them.
2. Said lackeys are currently purging IC records of evidence of wrong doing by Trump and his cronies over the last 4 years and beyond.
3. Outright denial of his defeat because he’s a narcissistic wanker who cannot cope with humiliation. If he’s going to lose, he’s going to have half the country contesting the validity of that loss for the rest of recorded history.
4. The slimmest of slim chances that he can ignore reality and get his own way through sheer brute force and pigheadedness like he has done for the whole of his life. I think he genuinely believes that if he’s still in the White House at the end of January, there will be a big legal battle to remove him and if he can stoke up enough hate and anger, then there will be fear of what his removal might trigger.
5. At the very worst for Trump, he will completely destroy Biden’s chance of a smooth transition and cripple the first year or so of his presidency which will have a knock on effect and Trump will hope to capitalise on that in four years time. Despite the fact he will likely be dead, bankrupt or up to his fat neck in legal proceedings.
This is a very good point. Wont be surprised if it is happening now.
 
Is there really any chance of Trump remaining in office?

Can it be this easy to not win an election and still remain president?
 
By the end of January, he'll be escorted out by the Secret Service so not a chance.
Good luck. Secret Service personnel aren't that tough. Big Daddy Trump will have no trouble whipping their arses with some of his sweet Kung Fu moves.
 
Good luck. Secret Service personnel aren't that tough. Big Daddy Trump will have no trouble whipping their arses with some of his sweet Kung Fu moves.

He already tried taking them out with his Kung Flu* moves.


*This is a vile term used only to mock the asshat who coined it.
 
@oates CNN just announced that Biden won the election.
What exactly happened there?
It's a show where all the contestants take turns hosting one another for dinner one different nights. Afterwards the "guests" rate their night out of ten and the winner gets some money. The pompous twat was one of the contestants and obviously he didn't like that someone other than him won so he acted like a, well, pompous twat.
 
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