This is slower than our football
2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress
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900P EST update for Nevada.
I'm waiting for you to create thread called: John King Out (Poll)
One of my favorite places, congrats! Must be weird being in such a progressive place fully surrounded!
one hour?
Michigan can pretty much be called right? 98% counted and 30k in front.
Garbage
3 more hours to 6:15 PM EST
Ugh, Im irritated Susan Collins got reelected. She's a cockroach.
Weird place overall. The suburbs have exploded since I last lived here 20 years ago, yet the downtown city population had grown slower (due in large part to how the downtown city was designed with almost 40 squares that would have been built over decades ago in any other city of similar size; that limits the effect the downtown has v. the south side). Still progressive, just not enough in my opinion.
Trump's advantage is below 7 points in PA (394k)
3 hours, 4 minutes to be precise.
I have to admit, I don't see where this is coming from. What exactly is it about Nate Silver and 538 which has been particularly off about this election? I don't think anyone has done more to stress the point that Trump can win, and that even 90% doesn't mean a sure win, and it certainly doesn't mean a landslide (which many people probably damn near assumed was going to happen, me included).
I definitely don't get the sentiment that "facts be damned" if Biden wins, when a Biden win is exactly what 538 (and almost everyone else) predicted. They even had examples in their forecast of possible results, and many of them were very close.
Gone from one horror show on BT Sports to this one Sky News
I am sure it did not take this long to count the votes in 2016, why so long this time ?
Its's brilliant how Trump says he's sending lawyers in to contest the results and in the same breath says he's on track to win big.
Screams of a man who knows he's up against it but wants to have something to complain about whichever way it goes. Classic pathetic Trump.
Screams of a man who knows he's up against it but wants to have something to complain about whichever way it goes. Classic pathetic Trump.
Poorer decent population sized countries are better at counting votes. This is disgraceful.
Somehow I feel there’s a difference between a reality TV person making those claims, and when the incumbent POTUS does it. If he had the backing of the armed forces, would he accept a loss?
Other guy was better. Knew his maths
More turnout, more mail in ballots, social distancing, etc.
I am certain he knew what the results would be when he made his surreal speech late last night.
COVID. So many more mail in ballots. Plus both WI and PA had rules put in place by their republican legislatures that prohibited early processing of the mail ballots.
Well, most state results seem to be well outside the margin of error compared to polling averages. Sure, the modelling did take the possibility of massive polling error into account and concluded that even then Biden has a good chance. But that doesn't mean the "massive polling error" part should simply be ignored.
Fox sticking with their AZ call. I guess that's encouraging
They call states earlier when the difference is larger. Also Obama didn't slaughter the mail service just before an election.
Higher turnout, more to count. Plus it may have seemed like they got results sooner because we effectively knew who was winning sooner. Plus you'd imagine Covid restrictions slow things down.
Trump down to 393k now in PA.
Exponentially more mail in ballots, those have a prescribed method of opening / reporting due to volume & local rules.
We’ve literally never been here before in our election history. This is groundbreaking in so many way.
Pennsylvania dropped to a 394K lead for Trump. Going down hard.
Michigan, Arizona, Nevada. That's all I want....and I'm not even American.
Those percentages are like the weather forecast. If the probability of rain is 90%, it doesn't mean it will rain more than if it were 30%, it just means that there is a higher chance that the amount of rain predicted to fall (be it little or much) will indeed fall.
It's easy to remember. East coast is 5 hours forward, West coast is 7 hours forward and the central belt is stuck in 1993.FFS
Sure, but Nate Silver and 538 aren't pollsters. You could argue that they should have accounted for larger polling errors, but I'd argue that they did account for them in that they gave Trump a 10% chance to win. And Trump probably isn't going to win either (knock on wood).
Edit: you could also argue that they should have done a better job of rating pollsters (maybe? That will have to be seen when all the results are in).
Yeah yeah yeah, you want a real MAN - we got it.
Assholes had to have been clenching at Fox when they reported that.
What's Fox saying about all this BS cheating mumbo jumbo?
I'm still not sure Biden is going to get enough in PA. Apparently Philly votes down from last time, which is odd but perhaps down to the universities not being in
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