2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress

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Didn't Arizona say they'll be releasing no more counts till Thursday at earliest?

edit: that's Nevada I think, dunno why people are worried about Arizona. Some Trump propaganda at work probably.
 
Something is happening in the background... trump was 5.0 recently and is now 3.25 odds to win

what is happening? Is trump really gonna win? Nevada would have to be lost along with one of MI or WI
 
The Trump campaign has announced it will hold a press conference at 3.30pm EST (8.30pm UK time) in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

It will be hosted by Mr Trump's son Eric Trump, his wife Lara Trump, former Florida attorney general Pam Bondi and senior adviser Corey Lewandoski.
 
MrMarcello said:
Why didn't Beto run this time around?

Also, should Biden's team have considered him as a running mate? He seems quite popular. Or was he too "radical" for a centrist Dem campaign?
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Beto should have run again against Cornyn here and not had the presidential run that embarrassed him. He was so close against Ted Cruz. And his work here helped push downballot change.

He will struggle with national politics from Texas now though he has 2x loser taint he didn't need because of the poor presidential run. He could try Governor against abbot.
 
Carlos Curbello on MSNBC saying that he believes Latinos in Southern Florida think the DNC is moving too far left and this caused more to vote R. FFS. They're not going full blown commie socalist.

I got a new name instead of deplorables -- gullibles.
 
Mr Pigeon said:
Totally. It's also ignoring that a person isn't defined by their race. Someone might look at something Trump's done that targets specific groups, and that person is probably going to dislike Trump for it. But it's not their biggest priority. Maybe they're better off now than they were before? Maybe they've fallen for his divisive tactics? We don't know.

If people are really being truthful when they say that the economy is the biggest factor in deciding their vote (and that it's not just a lie to cover up their true reason - which is because they are just some Trump nut job) then the Democrats need to get their shit together and start swaying those voters. This election is clearly not just those sycophantic Trump base voting for their guy not matter what, and nobody will ever be able to persuade them otherwise. There's definitely a load of swayable voters our there to try and persuade to vote Democrat next time around.
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It will not be that easy. I got a few relatives in the US in NY, NJ, AZ. They are immigrants (albeit white Europeans). All of them are staunch Trump supporters, simply because they are quite religious and they are put off by Dems forever (gender debate was a big no no for them in 2016).

It's similar in Germany. For many, let's say, Turkish people the conservatives (although being a Christian party) have certainly a lot of in common with conservative immigrants from Turkey or other muslim states.

Rado_N said:
Over a million votes left to count in PA
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Yeah, their server is busy right now.
Pennsylvania votes
 
Maine is a very strange state. Biden overall but Collins in the Senate, but then Trump in ME-2 but the Dem wins the congressional seat. They love a split ticket, it seems.
 
Is anything concrete going to come out of these important states tonight (UK time)?
 
Tom Van Persie said:
I'm amazed they think the bookies have some kind of inside knowledge. They read twitter, news outlets and follow polls like everybody else.
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I just remember last night so many people on here were saying oh Trump is now favourite on fecking Betfred . It's over , Trump has won.

And then this morning oh now Biden is favourite to win at the bookies, it's over sleepy joe has done it!

And now it's oh trump might be winning again .

It's just bollocks :lol:
 
Frosty said:
In other words, "please ABC, keep employing me and my staff"
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It's laughable how he's trying to play this and maintain some credibility. Being out by a margin of error is acceptable. Also, being wrong every now and again is acceptable. But if you are, just own it!

However, being out by over 10+ points just shows how flawed the polls have been.
 
By the way, why did both North Carolina and Arizona get stuck at the same percentage for hours? Did they just... stop counting for some reason?
 
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