2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress

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I've got AZ, NV, WI & MI going for Biden, and PA, GA & NC going for Trump, making it 270-268 in Biden's favor.
 
Somewhat true, but also keep in mind that these areas are often a lot poorer, and with worse services and higher unemployment. It's easy to understand why they feel left behind by the rest of America. That makes them easy prey for authoritarian populists like Trump.

True. And they routinely vote against their interests every cycle. Then blame the "dumbocrats."
 
The recounts will be a delaying function while they attempt to build court cases
 
If Georgia goes for Biden then I'll maybe forgive all the hellish stupid flights I've ever had to take from Atlanta Airport where for some reason I had to go from New Orleans > Atlanta > West Palm Beach > Atlanta > London

The curse of living in the South. Living in Birmingham meant that 90% of every flight we took went BHM -> ATL -> Anywhere else
 
Rural America has a massive inferiority complex. They're stuck in their ways which have been taught to them by parents, grandparents, peers, and clergy.
Big cities are bad and colleges look down on them. They tend to think education is bad and science is negotiable.
 
Anyone mention Betfair has seen a massive shift in favour of Trump last few mins. Was 4-1 now in to 5/2
 
The biggest mistake that people make time and again is assume that because X person is X race or from X cultural background they will automatically react in the same way as everyone else "like them". So when Trump puts kids in cages or calls BLM protestors criminals some people automatically expect Latinos or African Americans to all attend a massive group meeting where they all agree to hate Trump.
Yeah, I have always found that weird. From what I know, e.g. hispanic people in the US, especially recent migrants, are relatively religious. As such, they'll find more common ground with the Reps - as long as they can live with the racist undertones. And then of course there are many shades within that group, and within everybody else.

Still, if Clinton and O'Rourke did so much better, you can wonder what went wrong for Biden. Too muted, too anti-Trump to appeal? Or are there recent developments that will have changed things for these voters?
 
Back to the Atlanta metro area... while they keep posting about Fulton they need to look at DeKalb where Biden is 83% of the vote with roughly 55K votes unaccounted. Not sure if that also takes into account a portion of the 200K.
 
The curse of living in the South. Living in Birmingham meant that 90% of every flight we took went BHM -> ATL -> Anywhere else
You're in Delta country. Everything flows through Atlanta to go anywhere if you're in the South.
 
Absolutely. I mean that itself is also a kind of stereotyping.
Totally. It's also ignoring that a person isn't defined by their race. Someone might look at something Trump's done that targets specific groups, and that person is probably going to dislike Trump for it. But it's not their biggest priority. Maybe they're better off now than they were before? Maybe they've fallen for his divisive tactics? We don't know.

If people are really being truthful when they say that the economy is the biggest factor in deciding their vote (and that it's not just a lie to cover up their true reason - which is because they are just some Trump nut job) then the Democrats need to get their shit together and start swaying those voters. This election is clearly not just those sycophantic Trump base voting for their guy not matter what, and nobody will ever be able to persuade them otherwise. There's definitely a load of swayable voters our there to try and persuade to vote Democrat next time around.
 
Any idea why major news outlets are not calling Wisconsin yet?

I think they have to jump through some hoops to verify or something. Their election manager or whatever she is called was on CNN a bit earlier. All normal they say.
 
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/20pdf/20-542_i3dj.pdf

SC dissent on PA deadline extension.

SC may judge it to be incorrect but likely won't overturn it as that would mean invalidating votes, which is not fair on voters who have done nothing wrong.

In ideal situation if maps stays as it, this would not matter...but if a swing state flips, this could get ugly.
 
We can't say yet whether they got it so wrong. This counting process is just super chaotic.


It's not so much of a conundrum. It probably shows the growing integration of minorities into the wider society. It is just normal that some of them fall for the same propaganda as many white folks.
I don’t understand at all how any non white first generation migrant on USA could vote Trump.

Hearing that Cubans got scared Trump ads that claimed that Biden would turn USA into a commie state is just nuts.

Hearing that Cubans got scared Trump ads that claimed that Biden would turn USA into a commie state is just nuts. Majority of American Indians seduced by the Modi Trump bromance also voted Trump too.
 
I don’t understand at all how any non white first generation migrant on USA could vote Trump.

Hearing that Cubans got scared Trump ads that claimed that Biden would turn USA into a commie state is just nuts.

Hearing that Cubans got scared Trump ads that claimed that Biden would turn USA into a commie state is just nuts. Majority of American Indians seduced by the Modi Trump bromance also voted Trump too.

SORRY ITS THE PHONE
 
You can tape what john King says on CNN on a 10 min loop and repeat it. He is offering no analyst. NONE

bring back the other guy. Miles better
 
Why didn't Beto run this time around?

Also, should Biden's team have considered him as a running mate? He seems quite popular. Or was he too "radical" for a centrist Dem campaign?
 
Somewhat true, but also keep in mind that these areas are often a lot poorer, and with worse services and higher unemployment. It's easy to understand why they feel left behind by the rest of America. That makes them easy prey for authoritarian populists like Trump.

Now that it looks like Biden will win, I'm more sympathetic to this generous view.

In the early hours of last night though I was thinking of them as a drunk driver who got behind the wheel and plowed into innocent bystanders, spent four years hearing about the damage they wreaked on those innocent people's lives, then immediately got behind the wheel shitfaced again and did the exact same thing. Sympathy for their problems becomes increasingly difficult to sustain when they show such scant empathy for others.
 
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