Ok by that rationale, you should never buy anything Made in China as they are by far the biggest polluters and carbon monoxide emitters by far.
2018 US Elections
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Ok by that rationale, you should never buy anything Made in China as they are by far the biggest polluters and carbon monoxide emitters by far.
Yes House and Senate can affect policy and politics at a federal and those are worth paying attention, but people are going crazy over the Maryland or Wisconsin governorship race. It's the equivalent of people stateside taking strong views on the local Melbourne council race. I just fund it odd, that's all.
Shocking that a native Texan got a bigger vote share than the New Yorker.
When you consider this being mid term and the fact that Dems got much higher vote share in the country in general, Hillary losing by 1.2% has to be considered a better result than Gillum losing by 0.7%.
shhh! The founding fathers are to be revered and weren't ordinary men capable of making mistakes and writing stuff that doesn't apply to Americans today.
I went off the party registration number. You are welcome to give your take on the ideological makeup of the sample.
I’m also aware of the large Cuban block in Florida who traditionally went Republican, the newer immigrants/2nd generations from Latin America and Puerto Ricans however are strong Dem, and they’d be the biggest group affected by draconian drug laws. The nationwide breakdown for Hispanics is 2:1 for Democrats, so if this group vote along those line and assuming a very conservative 85-15 for blacks, and 30-70 for whites, they’d still net something around 120k votes (quick maths) on 60% turnout.
Acting as if this won’t scare Republicans shitless is bizarre. I’m more than willing to bet that we will soon hear more news out of the state about these ex-felons and their voting rights as 2020 approaches.
And W got the 9/11 sympathy vote in 2002, your point being?Bill got the impeachment sympathy vote
Your initial blanket claim that incumbent party always lose in midterm was false, period. It’s a common occurrence, not absolute.
They setup a system that worked 200 years ago, but to even think about adapting anything in the Constitution is viewed as heresy by Republicans and (some? most?) Democrats alike.
It's going to get worse with Republicans packing the courts with strict constructionists and textualists.
Hillary had the most endorsements from fellow elected Dems for a non-incumbent, and in terms of actual voters, people with a Dem party ID were more heavily supportive of her, with Sanders' greatest strength being with independents. The primary itself was obviously divisive and that may have been more what you were getting at (Gore's was just a cakewalk from beginning to end), but I think it's fair to say that the party as a body was pretty unified behind her going into that primary.
I'm also just not sure it matters either way, as long as you come out the other side with a strong candidate. Obama and Bill both went in as outsiders but built up enough support as they went along to win. If there are, say, 5 serious candidates that begin 2020, you'd hope that the strongest would rise come the end. Who that may be, I have no idea.
‘Waaahh waahh, daddy tricked me’
Imagine if Pelosi and her crew don't bother investigating Trump?
The thought of this extent of cowardice makes me sick.
Trump is begging Dems to put leave Pelosi as Speaker...ffs!
The thought of this extent of cowardice makes me sick.
Trump is begging Dems to put leave Pelosi as Speaker...ffs!
That's why the native Texan (Cruz) got a smaller share vote than the New Yorker (Trump), right?
It can be simultaneously true that Trump was a better top of the ticket than Cruz, and Clinton was a worse candidate in Texas than Beto. And higher turnout in presidential year in a red state obviously benefit the red party.
I suspect Beto would fare worse if he comes up against John Cornyn in 2020, who is actually liked there.
Beto was a better candidate than Clinton there.
Trump actually wasn't a good candidate at all in Texas. He won by 9% there. Romney won by 16%, Mccain won by 12%.
Stop wasting effort in Texas.
I'll miss his anguished looks of impotence
*better than Cruz.
Lyin’ Ted is physically repulsive, it actually makes you sick looking at him for too long.
Stop being so pedantic, I didn't go back to the times of Abraham Lincoln if that's what you're inferring. In recent memory, talking only about the House the following pattern emerges:
Ronald Regan lost the first midterms, re-elected as President, lost the second midterms again.
Bush 41 lost midterms elections, lost re-election bid.
Clinton lost the first midterms, re-elected as President, lost the second midterms again.
Bush *won the first midterms, re-elected as President, lost the second midterms.
Obama lost the first midterms, re-elected as President, lost the second midterms again.
Trump lost the first midterms
So, just examining the data dispassionately, Americans tend to vote the opposite legislative party of the sitting President (executive) - and that's a good thing.
Sort of, but it does leave the US chronically stuck and unable to really get anything done.
Montana gets called for Tester.
Lamont becomes Governor in Connecticut.
Didn't Republicans win 223 to 211?
It looks as though we'll end up with three net gains for Republicans, so a 54-46 majority.
Some argue gridlock is the best outcome for the economy. Getting nothing done is better than doing harm (which most pols end up doing anyway).
Yup that's by far the most likely outcome. Recount going ahead in Florida though. Some small chance Nelson Succeeds. Also Sinema still hasn't conceded Arizona. Apparently there are a lot of Ballots still to count despite 99% of the districts being in (mail and absentees maybe?). Some vanishingly small chance she succeeds too.
I fear the margin in Florida, while obviously small enough to trigger the automatic recount, is just too much. Maybe more of a chance in Arizona but still vanishingly small, as you say.
Sinema is still in game * (that is what I learnt here), so it could be 53-47.
* Only 75% of votes have been counted, instead of the given 99%.
To be fair, they are now having a "war on pollution". Taking many steps to correct their polluting ways. Where as trump is forcing the US to the other way and double down on polluting. A scary thought might be that hes seen the economic growth of china and wants to replicate it. Which would turn parts of the US into looking like parts of china. The worst parts.
Really? That's heartening news. There's also a run-off in the Mississippi Senate special election in a few weeks. Will almost certainly be a Republican win, but not confirmed for a few more weeks.
They lost 5 seats to Dems. It was a big disappointment.
The whole ‘voters want balance so they vote alternatively’ is also a lazy conclusion and doesn’t hold up under closer examination. If that was the case Democrats wouldnt retain control of Congress from the 1940s to early 1990s. Mostly, the party who lost the previous election are more energised the next time around, which explain the swing, but it’s not absolute, and it was not until the early 90s that partisanship went back into overdrive, delivering big sweep in ‘wave’ midterm elections. Prior to 1996, the last meaningful wave was 1974, which I don’t have to explain the reason why.
Looking at a relatively small sample and drawing conclusion is unproductive. The US went through similarly turbulent period of swings in the 60/70s (civil rights movement+ Vietnam) before settling in for a relatively peaceful 20 years of Congressional elections. There’s nothing preventing it from happening again, which renders the alternate voting cycles theory null.
That's a sure Republican seat. She won the first round, despite a strong challenge from an another Republican (who ended in double digits).
Are there are spines left in the Democratic party or are they going to capitulate now?
All I know is Maxine Walters won't let up on Trump, and the rest of the party need to follow her energy.
The 6% difference is mostly explained by the Dem wave. 3% or so in 2016 compared to 9% last night.
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I don't think you can get results like this in Texas during mid-terms and not treat it as a target state in 2020.
So the Dems have nothing to lose because they are not planning to push any progressive agenda anyway.
Only good thing for Dems is lot of new blood. Beto, Gillum, Newsom....
Prospects for Trump 2020 seems lot more healthier than a month before.
Prospects for Trump 2020 seems lot more healthier than a month before.
I hope there is enough in the party who have the same burning hate as we all do and want to see this crook brought down.
I think there's a few on the Intelligence Committee that will want to take him down. Schiff clearly found the whole investigation infuriating last year and I think he will want to bring down Nunes.