2018 US Elections

I guess the percentage varies from state to state. For instance in 2016 Texas had a voting age population of 19.3 million while the number of these with a drivers licence was 15.9 million. That equates to around 82%. If you consider that licensing rates decline the younger and poorer you are you can see why a seemingly trivial thing like demanding a license has an immediate and disproportionate disenfranchising effect on specific portions of the population. Might be (pulling figures out of my ass a bit here) that up to a quarter or a third of the poorest Texans don't have a license.

The most recent estimate of how Texan ID law affects registered voters is from way back in 2014 when a judge appeared to accept that over 600k Texans failed to meet the state's ID requirements despite being registered to vote. My guess would be that the longer a licence is required then the more people will pick one up, but I'm not sure that's the case.

I don't know how people can go about their daily business without an ID. In addition to driving, you need an ID to sign a lease, open a utility account, get cable, open a bank account, get a credit card, buy alcohol, go to the doctor, get medical benefits, register to vote (I assume you need an ID to register am I wrong?). Let's cut through the bs, you can't really function in the modern US society without an ID, so I don't fully buy this argument that poor people can't afford one. If there is like 0.01% of the population that *truly* can't afford one, the state can offer one for free.

Here we are in the age of blockchain and decentralized ledgers that can easily achieve enhanced security, transparency, immutability and speed (i.e. you can tally votes in real time) and we still cling to an archaic version that requires you to register to vote but not necessarily produce ID when you go to vote, eventually sparking costly lawsuits and litigation and accusations and ultimately wasted energy.

Anyways... Don't forget to vote early and often my friends.
 
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Just watched John Kasich (out-going R Ohio) interviewed, pre mid-terms, on the Daily Show … hard to believe that guy's in the same general species, let alone political party as Trump!

Refreshing, but a lone voice.

Interesting comment about current politics going to extremes leaving a human element vacant right down the middle that should perhaps be taken advantage of by the creation of a new party. Not just in the US either!
 
I don't know how people can go about their daily business without an ID. In addition to driving, you need an ID to sign a lease, open a utility account, get cable, open a bank account, get a credit card, buy alcohol, go to the doctor, get medical benefits, register to vote (I assume you need an ID to register am I wrong?). Let's cut through the bs, you can't really function in the modern US society without an ID, so I don't fully buy this argument that poor people can't afford one. If there is like 0.01% of the population that *truly* can't afford one, the state can offer one for free.
you not being able to imagine something shouldn't be the basis for policy, you've been given numbers and reasons a few times now so unless you have something more constructive than "uh wtf people get an id" just accept that you're chatting shit and move on
 
Is the voting suppression as bad as it sounds? I mean from here it looks like they’re flat out making it impossible for some folk to vote, and the fact this is happening in predominantly poor and minority areas (ie those more inclined to vote Dem) hardly makes it subtle either.

Is the media even making a deal out of this?
 
Disney heiress Abigail Disney is here to tell you exactly what the 1% did with Trump's Tax Cuts

 


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Do these people that attend rallies even listen to what these clowns are saying? Fml

The Dems need to run on Education as it's clear It's severely lacking in many parts.
 
Is the voting suppression as bad as it sounds? I mean from here it looks like they’re flat out making it impossible for some folk to vote, and the fact this is happening in predominantly poor and minority areas (ie those more inclined to vote Dem) hardly makes it subtle either.

Is the media even making a deal out of this?
Both CNN and Sky ran documentaries on this a few days ago.
 
Both CNN and Sky ran documentaries on this a few days ago.
Just documentaries?

I mean this is the sort of shit I’d expect from Middle Eastern tinpot dictatorships, it’s a step short of having the incumbents announce a 98% electoral victory.
 
Is the voting suppression as bad as it sounds? I mean from here it looks like they’re flat out making it impossible for some folk to vote, and the fact this is happening in predominantly poor and minority areas (ie those more inclined to vote Dem) hardly makes it subtle either.

Is the media even making a deal out of this?

I'm not clued up on it, i'm sure some American posters have a better idea.

But yes voter suppression is a real thing, and it can take the form of many acts.
From making it difficult to register, employers not giving employees time off to go and vote, voting booths being difficult to access unless you have a car, to actual barriers you face when you do turn up to vote and can be turned away.
Then of course you have issues like gerrymandering so when you do get into power, to make it harder for the opposition to win again.

All of this means you have a lot of people who are disillusioned with voting completely, and you can't really blame them.
 
Could anyone give me a short time line on what to expect at what time as an European? Will it be like the presidential election where you get the first results at around 11pm-1am and the final ones at like 8am?
 


My favourite Twitter user who is clearly deranged and currently involved in a Twitter war (that he's obviously not winning) with William LeGate. He's had multiple accounts and been sparring with prominent resisters for a couple of years now, but this is some of his finest work.

This shit is real y'all!

I'm just off to eat my neighbour.
 
If the Zodiac killer actually loses I think I might nut from all the schadenfreude. There isn’t a more odious, spineless turdbag than him. Would only be fitting if he loses it all even after lowering his dignity to fellate the same president who insulted him and his wife.
 
Wow! You do realise that is the exact antithesis of "The land of the free" and by forcing everyone to have photo I.D. You are going even further down the paths of Orwell's 1984?

Nobody should be forced to have photo I.d. to aqcuire basic necessities or to go about their daily business. Feck me, what next? Retinal scanners and DNA testing each time you want to go to a concert or sports event?

Demanding photo I.D. is a dangerous path. It shouldn't be taken lightly, especially when there are clearly so many corrupt areas of the voting process that need fixing first.
I find that truely odd. In Germany, everyone has to get a German ID card from the age of 16 onwards. I never ever thought of it as something that hinders my freedom. Quite the opposite actually. Most teens can't wait to get their ID card, so that they can go to clubs, buy alcohol and cigarettes. They can move around Europe freely, start traveling on their own without their parents. Getting your own ID is a huge step towards freedom, independence from your parents.

The fact that you have to get an ID doesn't mean that you have to carry it with you all the time though or that you need it to acquire basic necessities. You're registered at a resident's registration office anyway. It's not like you can live completely anonymous without anyone knowing you exist. You could say, the ID card is basically your personal certificate that you're a citizen. It's not a tool from the government to control you in any way.

It's one of those things where I can't shake the feeling that US citizens fight it out of principle even though in many ways it would help the country to be a much fairer democracy. It's crazy how difficult it is to vote in the US and how many people aren't allowed to vote for the strangest reasons. I really don't get it at all. It could be so easy.
 
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Is the voting suppression as bad as it sounds? I mean from here it looks like they’re flat out making it impossible for some folk to vote, and the fact this is happening in predominantly poor and minority areas (ie those more inclined to vote Dem) hardly makes it subtle either.

Is the media even making a deal out of this?
Ive seen a program on CNN about it and I live in the UK.
 
This fits under the ‘not sure whether to laugh or cry’ category.


We (Belgium) have a compulsory voting system. You can't get fined if you don't vote though. Roughly 90% of all Belgians went to vote couple of weeks ago for regional elections. Do you think this could be feasible in the US?
 
We (Belgium) have a compulsory voting system. You can't get fined if you don't vote though. Roughly 90% of all Belgians went to vote couple of weeks ago for regional elections. Do you think this could be feasible in the US?
Not likely.

It’d require a massive court challenge to re-interpret the Constitution at best, or an amendment at worst to empower the federal government to create auto registration, a federal database etc... and then create/enforce regulations on how many polling precincts at minimum, early voting, voting hours etc... things that states currently get to decide by themselves.

Tbh though, the elephant in the room is the two-party, FPTP system. Before this became the norm, the US had regular turn out above 70%. Proportional representation would go a long way into cajoling the currently apathetic voters into voting.
 
We (Belgium) have a compulsory voting system. You can't get fined if you don't vote though. Roughly 90% of all Belgians went to vote couple of weeks ago for regional elections. Do you think this could be feasible in the US?
Can't say it has helped you get functional governments tho. Sorry just had to get that dig in :lol:
 
Come on Murica.
Today is the first chance you get to start righting this wrong. Kick that far right party out .
This fits under the ‘not sure whether to laugh or cry’ category.

I don't know why America won't do something small and reasonable like voting on a Saturday .
 
Can't say it has helped you get functional governments tho. Sorry just had to get that dig in :lol:

Can't say I disagree. We are a little but complex country. Three official languages, 3 independent regions who are still governed on a national level. It's like a fairly happy dysfunctional family. :)

Still, our multi party system and compulsory voting isn't a bad thing imo. You can still vote invalid or blanco if you want, but at least it invokes people to have a slight interest in politics.

Come on Murica.
Today is the first chance you get to start righting this wrong. Kick that far right party out .

I don't know why America won't do something small and reasonable like voting on a Saturday .

On a Sunday in Belgium. It's great. Everyone goes out to vote and hangs in the pub until the results are being announced.