2016 US Presidential Elections | Trump Wins

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As I stated previously, if there is enough material there for the FBI to look into they shouldn't delay that due to the inconvenience it may cause Clinton.
It's not about making an exception for one individual. It's about maintaining the integrity of the election. They can analyze/investigate all they want without making it public. And they can impeach her in short order afterwards. But what if it comes nothing and but still changes the outcome? The world superpower has some idiot in office for four years. Oops.

If the FBI is seen as right-leaning (and, well, it's the FBI), something of this nature could be construed as Republicans using their weight to bring the election results they want. Like militaries often do in other countries. Countries that we definitely do not want to emulate. Not that I think that will be the case here; I'm looking at worst case scenario.
 
Question for all our Americans: Do you guys really think Hillary is a good candidate? Or is this very much a case of the lesser evil? IMO she wouldn't have stood a chance against a sane and normal Rep. candidate.

I just can't shake the feeling that this election is between the village idiot and the village witch. One is dumb and blunt but will largely be constrained and held back once in office, while the other one just is a bit too adept at the dark arts.
There hasn't been a sane normal republican candidate in a long time and I challenge you to name one. Hillary although carrying some baggage has dedicated her adult life to helping people of all kinds, she was a champion of women as Secretary of State and a superb Senator for New York. She has also had thirty years of dirty tricks used on her by people who are now orchestrating the Trump campaign and Nothing Has Stuck, nothing. People need to understand the million dollar business built to tear her down and in my opinion every day she gets stronger. She has held her tongue dealing with the most unworthy candidate for any public office in the history of this country but has used his words and actions against him while championing her policies that would help every single person in this country.
 
As opposed to the possible war with Russia Hillary will wade into?

No fly zone over Syria, endless proxy action in the ME, shit-stirring with Russia, rocket shield around China. It will be glorious.
 
There hasn't been a sane normal republican candidate in a long time and I challenge you to name one. Hillary although carrying some baggage has dedicated her adult life to helping people of all kinds, she was a champion of women as Secretary of State and a superb Senator for New York. She has also had thirty years of dirty tricks used on her by people who are now orchestrating the Trump campaign and Nothing Has Stuck, nothing. People need to understand the million dollar business built to tear her down and in my opinion every day she gets stronger. She has held her tongue dealing with the most unworthy candidate for any public office in the history of this country but has used his words and actions against him while championing her policies that would help every single person in this country.
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Agreed - because people like me who only skim headlines get mislead.

Unfortunately it is not just the headlines, there will be plenty of shit coming out of the mouths of some talking heads, people spinning into something it isn't. Of course in most cases they will be preaching to the choir. People solidly HRC will not change. People solidly Trump will not change. Anyone still fence sitting or prone to wavering back and forth depending on the tone of the narrative, they MIGHT be swayed.
 
There hasn't been a sane normal republican candidate in a long time and I challenge you to name one. Hillary although carrying some baggage has dedicated her adult life to helping people of all kinds, she was a champion of women as Secretary of State and a superb Senator for New York. She has also had thirty years of dirty tricks used on her by people who are now orchestrating the Trump campaign and Nothing Has Stuck, nothing. People need to understand the million dollar business built to tear her down and in my opinion every day she gets stronger. She has held her tongue dealing with the most unworthy candidate for any public office in the history of this country but has used his words and actions against him while championing her policies that would help every single person in this country.


Jon Huntsman....apart from all the weird Mormon bollocks.
 
As opposed to the possible war with Russia Hillary will wade into?
This was my concern -- not direct war, because that won't ever happen. There would be mutiny in the military ranks before a nuke is fired at Russia, unless they strike first (and they never will). But proxy wars of some kind. I don't think it would happen, though.

But just feck Trump in general. Look at the two platforms -- the differences are yuuuge. In social terms, the Dems' platform is a century ahead of the GOP's.
 
As opposed to the possible war with Russia Hillary will wade into?
There will be no war with Russia unless Putin continues with a path of aggression but she will put sanctions on Russia along with the international community to bring a halt to Putins authoritarian rule which he is eager to unleash on Eastern Europe.
 
There will be no war with Russia unless Putin continues with a path of aggression but she will put sanctions on Russia along with the international community to bring a halt to Putins authoritarian rule which he is eager to unleash on Eastern Europe.
I sound like a Russian apologist these days, but this Russian boogeyman nonsense has to stop. They have an economy which is about half the size of Germany's. Aside from the Crimean situation, there hasn't been any aggression. And there doesn't look like there will be.
 
Question for all our Americans: Do you guys really think Hillary is a good candidate? Or is this very much a case of the lesser evil? IMO she wouldn't have stood a chance against a sane and normal Rep. candidate.

I just can't shake the feeling that this election is between the village idiot and the village witch. One is dumb and blunt but will largely be constrained and held back once in office, while the other one just is a bit too adept at the dark arts.

To contain Drumpf just give him a Rubics cube and a Playboy mag and let him sit in a corner and drool while the support staff decides everything of importance. Clinton is a whole different kettle of fish.

Not American but...

Agree on Clinton, she's a poor candidate. Being that unpopular and having these e-mail and WikiLeaks issues would probably have been enough to see a candidate like Romney beat her, I think.

Your representation of the dangers of Clinton/Trump in office is inaccurate though. Clinton is by far the better option.
 
I sound like a Russian apologist these days, but this Russian boogeyman nonsense has to stop. They have an economy which is about half the size of Germany's. Aside from the Crimean situation, there hasn't been any aggression. And there doesn't look like there will be.

They do have a pea sized economy but still have probably the world's 2nd best military and are sitting atop the world's biggest pile of nukes. Not an ideal backdrop when one is dealing with a megalomaniacal dictator with small penis syndrome.
 
Jon Huntsman....apart from all the weird Mormon bollocks.

There was a youngish Republican on CNN last night and he seemed very clever, articulate and intelligent. Can't remember his name though.

I don't know if I can handle the smugness of Drumpf and his band of knuckle scraping followers and his nasty surrogates that are just gloating like crazy at the moment. I think it could be unwatchable now :(
 
Not American but...

Agree on Clinton, she's a poor candidate. Being that unpopular and having these e-mail and WikiLeaks issues would probably have been enough to see a candidate like Romney beat her, I think.

Your representation of the dangers of Clinton/Trump in office is inaccurate though. Clinton is by far the better option.
Plus isn't the House and all that Republican anyway and likely to stay that way? Would be easier for Trump to push through stuff than Clinton.
 


This is a dick move by Comey. Media narrative already out about 'reopening'.

Oh the damage is done already. No one can convince me of his integrity now. It was a political dick move just to regain power and stop the nation from moving to the left.
 
They do have a pea sized economy but still have probably the world's 2nd best military and are sitting atop the world's biggest pile of nukes. Not an ideal backdrop when one is dealing with a megalomaniacal dictator with small penis syndrome.
They do have a very large military, and a suspect leader, but it isn't even a particularly well funded military in relative terms. I mean the US spends roughly 10 times as much on military as the Russians do. The UK spends roughly the same amount on military as the Russians, and with far fewer troops/reserves. So I think they have an inadequate set up.
 
Russia, ISIS, Syria, Iran....the USA needs to get off of this permanent war-footing it's been on for the last 70 years. It's all a trick to line the pockets of rich people with defense contracts. I can't believe people still fall for it year after year after year....
 
Ok

The million dollar question is who this new device belongs to?
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I'm all for Clinton but in some ways, if the claim is genuine (that they found out that there was real evidence to re-open the case) wouldn't them re-opening it actually be the correct move in a democratic process?

I'm all for due process, it's the questionable statement I'm concerned about, it seems to exist in an interesting grey area that could potentially affect the outcome of an election.
 
This was my concern -- not direct war, because that won't ever happen. There would be mutiny in the military ranks before a nuke is fired at Russia, unless they strike first (and they never will). But proxy wars of some kind. I don't think it would happen, though.

But just feck Trump in general. Look at the two platforms -- the differences are yuuuge. In social terms, the Dems' platform is a century ahead of the GOP's.
2nd paragraph.. No contest and I can assure you 60% of populace haven't even noticed.
I am fuming right now. Comey should have just endorsed Trump.
 
I'm all for due process, it's the questionable statement I'm concerned about, it seems to exist in an interesting grey area that could potentially affect the outcome of an election.

That's the point... do you write the Senate everytime you half start investigating a new lead? Am I supposed to believe Comey didn't know what this would spark?
 
Paul Ryan the despicable little weasel has asked for all Clinton's classified briefings to be suspended!

And Trump has just said... "The system might not be as rigged as he first thought"

Ugh, it's sickening. :(
 
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