2016 US Presidential Elections | Trump Wins

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Regarding Gilberthorpe, surely some of the journos are checking if he actually was in the States at the time the alleged incident happened and on that very flight? As a UK citizen, he couldn't have entered the States without going through immigration - unless he entered the US illegally.
 
It's the LAT/USC/Daybreak/Dornsife poll :lol:

He literally choose the one poll most favourable to Drumpf, with a known dodgy methodology (3000 people panel interviewed over and again) and present fractions of it as 'internal polling analysis'. :lol:

They figured out why the poll was consistently favourable to Trump. One of the respondent on this tracking poll (which polls the same people repeatedly interviewed to measure trends) included a 19 year old black male from Chicago (who is not identified yet) and he supports Trump. That guy was weighted 30 times more than a normal person because they don't have people in that demographic. This alone skewered the result so much. They are trying to correct it apparently :lol:

I heard this on the NPR Political podcast.
 
Regarding Gilberthorpe, surely some of the journos are checking if he actually was in the States at the time the alleged incident happened and on that very flight? As a UK citizen, he couldn't have entered the States without going through immigration - unless he entered the US illegally.

He apparently as a photographic memory of the incident, but not the year and dates. To be fair, the victim also remembers the season and the year vaguely.
 
He apparently as a photographic memory of the incident, but not the year and dates. To be fair, the victim also remembers the season and the year vaguely.
Fair enough, but given Gilberthorpes' track record of fiction, I wonder if he was in the States during that time at all; and if so, if he has ever taken a flight to New York business class.
 
Fair enough, but given Gilberthorpes' track record of fiction, I wonder if he was in the States during that time at all; and if so, if he has ever taken a flight to New York business class.

I was just responding to your suggestion to check the immigration records is not on, given the guy doesn't remember the exact dates. He can make up his own dates. Not sure even the same airlines exist today.
 
I was just responding to your suggestion to check the immigration records is not on, given the guy doesn't remember the exact dates. He can make up his own dates. Not sure even the same airlines exist today.
A look at his immigration record might show that he hasn't been in the States at all for a number of years in which the incident is alleged to have occurred. Given that the guy is notorious for fabricating stuff, that's the least I expect journalists to try to check.
 
Goodness, you're a youngin'!

Apologies, Frosty, your posts are so knowledgeable and mature on most subjects I assumed you were at least my age.

Cheers Dwayne!

More generally though, Clinton's accusers and revelations were spread over several years and the impeachment was well into his second term. Whilst that did affect Gore's run to the Presidency, there surely can be no precedent for this amount of revelations coming so close to a Presidential Election? This is like Anita Hill and Clarence Thomas all over again, except that there are many Anita Hill's and Clarence Thomas is a much, much, much more odious individual.
 
He apparently as a photographic memory of the incident, but not the year and dates. To be fair, the victim also remembers the season and the year vaguely.

Fair enough, but given Gilberthorpes' track record of fiction, I wonder if he was in the States during that time at all; and if so, if he has ever taken a flight to New York business class.
Pence has to be about to lose his mind at this point. Had it coming to him though.
 
A genuine question as a keen observer of political science, almost like a 'Football Manager scenario':

If you were recruited as campaign head now, for Trump, what would you do (to make him win from here)?
 
A genuine question as a keen observer of political science, almost like a 'Football Manager scenario':

If you were recruited as campaign head now, for Trump, what would you do (to make him win from here)?

Best case scenario for Trump would be to acknowledge his accusers and make an apology similar to what Arnold Schwarzenegger did in 2004 when he was seeking reelection and a group of women said he made sexual advances on them over the years - he said something like I'm sorry about my past behavior and I'm sorry if I offended anyone over the years. After that he stopped talking about it and the public more or less accepted that as a sufficient acknowledgement and apology, and he wound up winning re-election. Trump needs to make a one time apology and move on, then only talk about political issues.

That obviously won't happen since he is a narcissist who rarely apologizes because he views that as an act of weakness. He instead doubles down on his accusers by attempting to discredit them. The media then uses his own words to keep the story alive for several news cycles, which in turn both obscures his own political message and lowers his poll numbers (and strengthens Hillary's).

In short, there's nothing Trump can do to stop the death spiral with 3 weeks remaining.
 
Trump's incredible, tremendous, yuge video team make another tremendous video


Wow! That is truly awful. Not only that it's just a video of his surrogates and supporters saying not much at all really. Then, right at the end is the money shot! $29,000 Donation made by Donald J Trump himself!

Now I will go out on a limb here and say that I think that donation was either given from the Trump foundation OR it was money taken directly from the election fund. Money donated by suckers, I mean people to help get Trump elected. Actually, thinking about it, if it is the latter and it is election fund money, I think ultimately the money went to a far better place and was far more useful. I wonder how long before this is investigated or someone tries to debunk it though?
 
Wow! That is truly awful. Not only that it's just a video of his surrogates and supporters saying not much at all really. Then, right at the end is the money shot! $29,000 Donation made by Donald J Trump himself!

Now I will go out on a limb here and say that I think that donation was either given from the Trump foundation OR it was money taken directly from the election fund. Money donated by suckers, I mean people to help get Trump elected. Actually, thinking about it, if it is the latter and it is election fund money, I think ultimately the money went to a far better place and was far more useful. I wonder how long before this is investigated or someone tries to debunk it though?

Washington Post probably on the case right now :D That video looks like it was made for $29.

Haaaaaa!! Just watched again and heard the horrific music editing. Hillary's video people must be laughing their heads off at this crap.
 
Haaaaaa!! Just watched again and heard the horrific music editing. Hillary's video people must be laughing their heads off at this crap.

Yeah, I bet they are. I almost feel sorry for Drumpf and his team, it's like bringing a pea shooter to a grenade launcher fight. Check this one out, it's so powerful and emotive, and the best bit, they don't even mention him by name anymore. How fecking embarrassing is that? :lol:

 


A new survey says Hillary Clinton has edged ahead of White House rival Donald Trump in deep-red Arizona, a state the Democratic nominee for president has only carried once in the last 64 years.



A poll from Data Orbital released on Friday finds Clinton (D) with 43 percent support among likely voters and Trump (R) with 42 percent — within the survey's margin of error. Six percent say they’re undecided, and 5 percent support Libertarian nominee Gary Johnson.
That’s in line with other recent polls of Arizona showing the state is a toss-up with 25 days to go until the election.

Trump still holds a 1-point edge in the RealClearPolitics average of state polls, but the only other survey from October, an Emerson University poll released last week, found Clinton ahead by 2 points.
 
I'm really concerned whenever Trump claims that if he doesn't win then it's due to corruption. He's inciting violence and when he does lose who knows what some of his supporters - the extreme ones that is - will end up doing.
 
Yep. And he'll be found nowhere alongside his supporters, most likely back in his cushy million dollar apartment or luxury mansion watching it unfold. Oh maybe he'll hold a rally or two or sixty but he'll be nowhere near the frontlines as he advocates alternative actions.
 
Yep. And he'll be found nowhere alongside his supporters, most likely back in his cushy million dollar apartment or luxury mansion watching it unfold. Oh maybe he'll hold a rally or two or sixty but he'll be nowhere near the frontlines as he advocates alternative actions.

I'm sure he'll find time to write a book or two about Making America Great Again. Maybe he'll continue holding his rallies but will start charging a hundred dollars a ticket.
 
I'm really concerned whenever Trump claims that if he doesn't win then it's due to corruption. He's inciting violence and when he does lose who knows what some of his supporters - the extreme ones that is - will end up doing.

Yeah, it's going to be an ugly, ugly night I think. All we can hope is the police deal with it swiftly and most of the people being aggressive at rallies soon pipe the feck down once they're actually confronted with proper violence.
 
It's the LAT/USC/Daybreak/Dornsife poll :lol:

He literally choose the one poll most favourable to Drumpf, with a known dodgy methodology (3000 people panel interviewed over and again) and present fractions of it as 'internal polling analysis'. :lol:


He has chosen the one poll which has been consident in last 2 years. Why wouldn't he. Last election this poll was in 0.5% of the actual final result.
 
A genuine question as a keen observer of political science, almost like a 'Football Manager scenario':

If you were recruited as campaign head now, for Trump, what would you do (to make him win from here)?
Exactly what he is doing, filling you're pockets and run, winning is for losers. I expect another two major scandals before the end so in my opinion it isdamage control from the country, not his campaign as they don't give a shit anymore, they are wallowing like the pigs they are in this gutter and the worse it gets the richer they will be on the backend. He is now blaming a global conspiracy of big business and international banking cartels. Not that I am oblivious to shenanigans on a global scale but the fact of the matter is Donald Trump is a cnut, his adult children and wife are cnuts, his campaign are full of cnuts and 90% of his supporters are cnuts. It really is that simple.
 
He has chosen the one poll which has been consident in last 2 years. Why wouldn't he. Last election this poll was in 0.5% of the actual final result.

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A genuine question as a keen observer of political science, almost like a 'Football Manager scenario':

If you were recruited as campaign head now, for Trump, what would you do (to make him win from here)?


I would have a woman come out and say she was raped by Trump - Only for Trump to be in Hospital at the time of her aligation or at a funeral of a family member. Plant a false report out there which can be proven as false and make people stop in their tracks.

Then I would speak on economy and last 8 years of Obama. All he needs do is build on momentum imo. Last week going into election date I would have an ISIS attack in Amercian and put fear into the Yanks about Emigration and lack of borders
 
I'm really concerned whenever Trump claims that if he doesn't win then it's due to corruption. He's inciting violence and when he does lose who knows what some of his supporters - the extreme ones that is - will end up doing.
I'm not really worried about them ( see the bunny boys in Oregon )as much as the sneaky feckers who will make a run in 2018. The tea party loons successfully ran in 2010 on a platform of fiscal responsibility when it was actually a protest against a black man in the White House and proceeded to introduce long written legislation to destroy a woman's right to choose while pissing away millions of tax payers money on stupid law suits, bogus investigations and the unleashing of an unregulated Wall Street again. It's a statement of truth that congress since 2010 has barely scratched more then a 25% approval rating. What really messes with my head is at election time a republican basically runs against themselves, they cry about safety yet we are always safer under a Dem and then cry about wasteful spending when it is a fact that the country performs better and is fiscally more responsible under a Dem.
If this country voted Dem and independent down the ticket for the next twelve years this country may well live up to what it routinely professes yet fails miserably.
 
I would have a woman come out and say she was raped by Trump - Only for Trump to be in Hospital at the time of her aligation or at a funeral of a family member. Plant a false report out there which can be proven as false and make people stop in their tracks.

Then I would speak on economy and last 8 years of Obama. All he needs do is build on momentum imo. Last week going into election date I would have an ISIS attack in Amercian and put fear into the Yanks about Emigration and lack of borders
Problem is Trump himself has told us he was never in a hospital and I'm sure you can find a profit motive in him attending a funeral, the afters would probably be at one of his properties. They are not capable of orchestrating a false report, look who they rolled out to counteract the sexual assault, if believed this guy has been the official pimp of Parliment for the past thirty years, rediculous.
 
Problem is Trump himself has told us he was never in a hospital and I'm sure you can find a profit motive in him attending a funeral, the afters would probably be at one of his properties. They are not capable of orchestrating a false report, look who they rolled out to counteract the sexual assault, if believed this guy has been the official pimp of Parliment for the past thirty years, rediculous.


Well then she was raped on some morning where it can be proven he was attending a remembrance service for 911.

If I was in charge of Trump I would be trying to make him look Human.


Have him charged with some sort of rape, he gets sick, not seen in 2 days, family around him, next thing he is interviewed from Hospital bed suffering from "stress brought on about lies" - says that he could not have raped this woman as he was in a church remembrance service for 911 victims.

Breaks down as the whole election is focued on lies thrown on him and not the facts.
 
Well then she was raped on some morning where it can be proven he was attending a remembrance service for 911.

If I was in charge of Trump I would be trying to make him look Human.


Have him charged with some sort of rape, he gets sick, not seen in 2 days, family around him, next thing he is interviewed from Hospital bed suffering from "stress brought on about lies" - says that he could not have raped this woman as he was in a church remembrance service for 911 victims.

Breaks down as the whole election is focued on lies thrown on him and not the facts.
"I like this guy Ivanka, seems like a smart guy, really smart, not like me but smart folks. Ask this guy if he wants to make America great again, we can pay him by making us good again, I'm telling you, ISIS, ISIS, it'll be great Ivanka, who took my money, who is stealing this election folks, there was a rolled $5 bill next to that twelve piece KFC and now it's gone folks, where did it go folks, we know, they don't because they think you're dumb folks, you're hired, you know I only hire the best folks, Ivanka, she's beautiful, am I right folks,get this guy a non disclosure piece of paper and tie my shoe lace while you are down there, ISIS ISIS".
 
If I was Donald Trump I would be sending his Bowing 747 out to Haiti and bringing back some people from Hurricane Matthew who are close to death and saving their lives.

The guy is missing so many tricks its unreal
 
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