If Utd win EVERY SINGLE match between now and the end of the season, we'll get 87 points. That's barely going to be enough to win the title.
The Premier League is gone.
2016/2017 Title race
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The Premier League is gone.
yeah, the title is way gone. But for me it's anyone but the scousers. Satan or Hitler fc is preferable. Sadly they've got
a good manager this time round.
a good manager this time round.
Chelsea aren't going to be losing this if teams all decide that matching their set up is the best way to go about things. He coached them this set up during them the off season and now its working consistently. Why on earth managers who've basically not used the system ever think for one game they'll get it right is beyond me. Will be interesting to see if Klopp is also going to do the same thing, which hasn't worked.
I think your math is wrong there. 36 + 19*3 = 93, no? Not that it matters, zero chance of us reaching it anyway.
Actually he didn't. He focused primarily on 424 and the standard 4231. And in the first two wins it looked it bit iffy. But he knows it better than anyone and the squad had uninterrupted midweeks to come to grips with it.
Has looked a two horse race for a while now. I think Liverpool will close in on Chelsea with their fixtures in the second half of the season.
It's a two horse race now.
Whatever happens, as long as we beat the scousers at OT we'll have played our part in trying to avoid the Doomsday scenario.
It won't (touch wood) be a case of us lubing up and bending over over at OT like we did under Moyes and giving them a massive title boost (eventually needing Jose to stop em
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Whatever happens, as long as we beat the scousers at OT we'll have played our part in trying to avoid the Doomsday scenario.
It won't (touch wood) be a case of us lubing up and bending over over at OT like we did under Moyes and giving them a massive title boost (eventually needing Jose to stop em
)2 horse race for me, Liverpool or Chelsea. Hope Liverpool do it, can't abide Chelsea.
At the start of the season, not in January. If Chelsea get 40 points in the second half of the season you'll need to win 18 and lose 1 out of the 19 games to finish ahead of them. If they get 35 points, which would be a big flop you'd need 48 points, ie 1 less than they have to this point, eg 16 wins and 3 losses, to finish level with them.
At the start of the season, not in January. If Chelsea get 40 points in the second half of the season you'll need to win 18 and lose 1 out of the 19 games to finish ahead of them. If they get 35 points, which would be a big flop you'd need 48 points, ie 1 less than they have to this point, eg 16 wins and 3 losses, to finish level with them.
It's Liverpool or Chelsea, yeah.
It'll come down to injuries on key players (like Coutinho) and whether Hazard/Costa can keep winning Chelsea matches where they're not fluid.
Liverpool's the better attacking unit, Chelsea better at defending. And Chelsea got the six point lead + the experience of winning titles, so for that reason I think they'll nick it.
Arsenal won't be in the mix come the end of the season. Too Wenger-ish.
It'll come down to injuries on key players (like Coutinho) and whether Hazard/Costa can keep winning Chelsea matches where they're not fluid.
Liverpool's the better attacking unit, Chelsea better at defending. And Chelsea got the six point lead + the experience of winning titles, so for that reason I think they'll nick it.
Arsenal won't be in the mix come the end of the season. Too Wenger-ish.
Strongly starting to fancy Liverpool.
Liverpool vs Chelsea in a couple of weeks is going to be a massive game.
Nothing wrong with that, but as it's very tight from 2nd to 6th, everyone should look over his shoulder.
Like I said a few ago, if there really is karma then this game should have one critical David Luiz slip in it.
Can't look beyond Chelsea. They're a Champions League level team with no mid week games. In fact, I'm rooting for them because the alternative looks like Liverpool.
Chelsea are going to run away with it. They look unbeatable at the moment.
Spurs will draw or even beat them and the title race will become wide open again.
6 points aren't really that much. United were 9 points off 4th just 3 weeks ago.Things may change quickly as we well know from 2011/12. If other teams (United, Arsenal, Spurs and City) go on to win 10 games in a row, they may challenege for the title as well.
Hope Spurs take this confidence and high into the Chelsea game.
You should know better than to have expectations from Spurs.Hope Spurs take this confidence and high into the Chelsea game.
Good to know that the scouse are still in the dreams, though.
Chelsea need about 40 points to be Champions, likely a bit less. That's 12 wins, 4 draws and 3 losses.
Easily doable given that they have no European football to contend with.
Pool ain't catching them.
Easily doable given that they have no European football to contend with.
Pool ain't catching them.
pHope Spurs take this confidence and high into the Chelsea game.
I am almost certain that they will lose or draw against Spurs. Their defence looked shaky against Stoke, and Spurs will come at them with a very high pressure, high energy approach. I would be surprised if Cahill and Luiz can contain the likes of Kane and Alli. The Spurs game is basically their first difficult away game in this run. They have won plenty of games against mid table sides and they beat us and Spurs at home (both results flattered them IMO) while getting crushed by Arsenal. They are not as good as the media is making them out to be, and they are due a defeat.
If they lose to Spurs, we will only be 10 points behind. That's not a massive lead at all, with half a season left to play.
Admire your optimism but it's not happening. We have 57 points left to play for and need 52-54 to contend for the title, with away trips to Arsenal, City and Spurs left. No way we only draw/lose once the rest of the season, especially with 3 other competitions still on.
We have closed a gap of 8-9 points to get to where we are now. At one point we were miles behind the top four and now we are within touching distance.
A gap of 10 points to the top of the league isn't insurmountable.
A few more wins and we could well be within 5-7 points of Chelsea, at which point I think almost everyone will believe we have a chance.
I'm not saying we are favorites or anything. But we shouldn't lose hope until it's mathematically impossible. We should at least aim to be in contention for the title even if we don't win it.
Do you really think of contending on this 1 Jan, starting sixth at -13, with 2 more competitions still running on, with only 19 games to play for, with targeting not one not two but five teams as equipped as you? Happy New Year!
Do you really think of contending on this 1 Jan, starting sixth at -13, with 2 more competitions still running on, with only 19 games to play for, with targeting not one not two but five teams as equipped as you? Happy New Year!
It will go from 13 to 10 points if Chelsea lose to Spurs. And don't forget that Chelsea will still have to visit Old Trafford. That potentially puts it at just 7 points. Completely possible for them to drop 7 points. It's too tight to call.
It's a dream, not a tight call
but if Leicester made it real last year, anything is possible Ha ha ha ! You've got to admire his optimism (though alternatively there may be other words you'd like to insert there). However maths is without any doubt whatsoever a subject he didn't pass at any grade (so an F).
Are you unable to engage in debate and offer a different opinion without resorting to personal attacks and insults?
Is it because the pressure of Liverpool being in a title race is too much to bear, given that you have never won the premier league and can't handle yet another near-miss?
I just Love stand-up comedians ! Love em.
Chelsea must be pissed that other top teams also keep winning most of their games. Their lead isn't that safe yet.
Do you know how staggeringly rare it is for a team to win 10 games in a row in the PL? Only about 6 teams have done that in the entire PL era.
It's not, although at the same time the only clubs within less than 10 points are Liverpool and Arsenal...neither of whom have been known for their resilience when it comes to title challenges. They're far from plain sailing yet but only Liverpool look like they'll have enough in them to catch up...and even then, they arguably concede too many to win the title, even if yesterday was a signal that Klopp's starting to adjust them to be more solid at the back when they have an important lead to keep.
Need Chelsea to do a number on Spurs.
I'm surprised that this keeps getting trotted out. We conceded 5 in the first two matches of the season - with a poor back 5 (Mignolet - Moreno - Lucas - Lovren - Clyne if I remember correctly) but since then only 16 in 17 matches, that's title winning form for most title winners in the PL (averages around 0.97 per game). Also in matches with Matip playing we've only conceded 9 goals in 11 starts. I don't see too much wrong with the defence, sure it could be even better but it's not awful and we have conceded fewer shots on goal than any other team in the PL.
He did, its been said by quite a few people with inside info of the chelsea pre season training.
Still, it's much more probable than Leicester winning the league.
Whats even more impressive about the chelsea run is the quality of players he's doing it with. Compared to the other squads in the top 6 their squad isn't that much better if at all, yet Conte has managed to rattle off the most dominant spell of games by a club that we've seen in a long time.
I see Liverpool losing a fair few games in all honesty. I think Chelsea will win the league comfortably.
You did ship four against Bournemouth, though, and squandered the game from a prime winning position. And in addition to that, it took until late November until you managed to both win a game and keep a clean sheet...that remains problematic for a side in contention for the title. All with a GK who's had his shaky moments and has come in for plenty of criticism.
Granted, you're nowhere near as leaky as the Rodgers side of 2013/14 was and you've really, really sorted out some of those defensive issues since the Bournemouth game with a few clean sheets since, but if you compare Liverpool to Chelsea they are on course for conceding under 30 goals, which will help them massively in their title challenge, especially since they're scoring more than enough as well.
Yep. Can't dispute any of that. Just that our defence get's a really bad rap on RC when it really isn't that bad at all and is greatly improved which many posters seem to completely fail to see/appreciate. Chelsea's defence are a freak of nature at this point, however Stoke have shown us the way, at least at one end of the pitch !