2013 Golf Majors

Yayyyy well done, Justin!
 
:lol:The Nicklaus medal!
 
Eloquent chap.
 
Consistency won out I guess. I dunno though, it felt like those that can cling in there best headed the leader board. It is nice to see a few birdies and more aggressive play rewarded on one level.
 
Well done Justin, worth waiting up for. Finally an Englishman wins a major again. It's been coming for Rose for some time now, he's really matured since he went to the States and is now one of the most consistant performers on the PGA Tour. Rose could well go on from here and win a fist full of majors.
 
Well done Justin, worth waiting up for. Finally an Englishman wins a major again. It's been coming for Rose for some time now, he's really matured since he went to the States and is now one of the most consistant performers on the PGA Tour. Rose could well go on from here and win a fist full of majors.

He could. I won't be getting those odds again that's for sure!
 
One of the great final rounds of golf in recent history, in my view. Yes, there was the odd three putt but with the greens at 15 on the stint and the rain hammering down for part of it, that's more than fair enough.

It proves categorically that to finish level par in the final round of the US Open means you will probably end up winning it. He was composed, clearly had a game plan, and executed it magnificently. Just an astounding round of golf. Quite emotional at the end to watch that interview where both he and the interviewer were struggling to hold it together.

Really, really happy for him. First Englishman for 43 years to win this tournament. What is more pleasing, generally, is that British players are gaining control of US tournaments; McDowell, McIlroy and now Rose winning the US Open in the space of four years. Considering the state of British golf not long ago, this is a remarkable turnaround.
 
I still can't believe he beat Mickelson in the last Ryder Cup. :D Great stuff, Justin.
 
I know I'm a bit late but what a win for Rose. I was delighted for him. I was beginning to think an Englishman would never win another major. And he seems to be a genuine bloke as well.

For some reason, I take great pleasure out of seeing Mickelson blow up, and I have absolutely no idea why.
 
Was delighted for Rose, always great to see a European win it.

I do like Mickelson though, he's one of the few Yanks that are popular among the European crowd. Apparently all the Europeans go for dinner and stuff like that together during tournaments, but the Yanks don't really mix even with each other. Word is that they spend their time on tour just working on their games in the evenings, either on the practice course, the gym or even in their hotel rooms, while there's more a social scene with the Europeans. Apparently Mickelson is in that European social group.

Strikes me as a likable guy.
 
Can't wait for tomorrow. I hope McIlroy makes a comeback and wins it. More importantly it will win be a few bob! Weekend sorted.
 
Yeah can't wait for tomorrow, Ashes and the Open. Won't be McIlroy's year. He's not got the game nor the form to win it. Doesn't look confident or up for it.

Against my better judgement I've backed Westwood again, simply because I'm getting 7/8 places on him, and he's got that irritating habit of coming 'there or thereabouts' and the probability seems slightly more in my favour.

Day is set to win one before long. He also keeps falling just short. Make a couple more putts and he's a major winner. Game raiser if ever there was one in golf.

Kuchar also has the game for the Open IMO. Terrific ball striker, second in the PGA Tour money list (behind Woods), ranked 6th in the world (behind all major winners), over 1/3 top 10 finishes, very consistent. Ticks all the boxes to have a real go at this one, and 50/1 couldn't be sniffed at. Having taken all this into account he'll no doubt miss the cut.

Scott's my final pick. Form player, did very well last year, won the Masters, and showed promising signs, though ultimately falling well short at Merion.

Quite a lot of value to be had with Victor Chandler (eight places) and Paddys (seven).
 
Money's on Snedeker, Day or Scott. Struggle to see any homeland winner's outside Macdowell or Rose.
 
These idiots who shout shit like "mashed potatoes" when people hit their drives need to be shot.
 
No idea, but it's ridiculous, like the twats screaming "get in the hole" when someone hits a drive on a par 5. Can't stand it.
 
Mickleson playing beautifully.

The course isn't really playing too difficult out there. As usual, the R and A only choose courses that are weather dependent. There could be a -8 if someone gets going.
 
These idiots who shout shit like "mashed potatoes" when people hit their drives need to be shot.


There used to be a certain etiquette involved in golf that has disappeared at these big events. I'm all for making noise after the shots but shit like that is wanker territory. I'd be all for people getting fecked out for acting the twats.
 
Mickleson playing beautifully.

The course isn't really playing too difficult out there. As usual, the R and A only choose courses that are weather dependent. There could be a -8 if someone gets going.


Would be nice to see a new course added but it is very unlikely. Trump Links would be excellent in 20 years. Incredibly tough course. The best I've ever played.
 
Would be nice to see a new course added but it is very unlikely. Trump Links would be excellent in 20 years. Incredibly tough course. The best I've ever played.


I've heard good things about it. Obviously the newer the course, the more it'll cater for the modern longer-hitting golfer.

Incidentally, a lot of the players not happy with the pin positions. Poulter especially. No great suprise. They rarely get it right.
 
I've heard good things about it. Obviously the newer the course, the more it'll cater for the modern longer-hitting golfer.

Incidentally, a lot of the players not happy with the pin positions. Poulter especially. No great suprise. They rarely get it right.


There's some mental holes, proper breathtaking stuff. It's possible to go up to 4000 yards.

Players always complain though. I'd rather see them struggle than watch folk tear it apart.
 
What absolute horseshit from McIlroy. He needs a serious kick in the hole. There goes €4 I put on him!

Of my 3 other bets, only Jordan Spieth is doing well. I got him at 125/1 though so he'd be the one I'd prefer to win. Mannassaro is out and McDowell is struggling a bit.
 
What absolute horseshit from McIlroy. He needs a serious kick in the hole. There goes €4 I put on him!

Of my 3 other bets, only Jordan Spieth is doing well. I got him at 125/1 though so he'd be the one I'd prefer to win. Mannassaro is out and McDowell is struggling a bit.


Some big hitters not making the cut though. I'm not so sure about how they seem to be obsessed with making the courses play to par or over in the majors these days. I think for Thursday and Friday they should set them up pretty easy to ease the players into playing great golf then tighten them up for the weekend. I'd be surprised if anyone ends up under par when this is over.

I want birdies!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Some big hitters not making the cut though. I'm not so sure about how they seem to be obsessed with making the courses play to par or over in the majors these days. I think for Thursday and Friday they should set them up pretty easy to ease the players into playing great golf then tighten them up for the weekend. I'd be surprised if anyone ends up under par when this is over.

I want birdies!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't really mind if the course is hard at all, I hate seeing players at -20 (-3 to -8, something like that is what I prefer). But there's a difference between a hard course and greens that are impossible to putt on in the afternoon. And then they put the pins in ridiculous positions.

The way the greens are you are much better off playing in the morning. It's set up for someone to start in the morning, post a ridiculously good 66 or something, come back from 7 shots behind and win it.

The players playing in the afternoon on those dried out greens have little or not hope.
 
To be honest, I think this open has been extremely boring. I can't get in to it. And I love the majors.
 
Not loads. But I've wanted Westie to win one for years. Don't want him to be another Montgomery.
Ill pick up £192.50 for a Westwood win.
£37.50 for an outright place.
If Scott gets placed ill pick up £36.25 for that.
 
I don't really mind if the course is hard at all, I hate seeing players at -20 (-3 to -8, something like that is what I prefer). But there's a difference between a hard course and greens that are impossible to putt on in the afternoon. And then they put the pins in ridiculous positions.

The way the greens are you are much better off playing in the morning. It's set up for someone to start in the morning, post a ridiculously good 66 or something, come back from 7 shots behind and win it.

The players playing in the afternoon on those dried out greens have little or not hope.


I'm generally in agreement, except I like having the course hard enough for players to be playing at -1, -2 but no better really.

The issue is here that the course isn't hard - it's just set up stupidly.

Essentially, the club are in a difficult position. Either you set up the course properly, with acceptable pin positions and sensible watering of fairways and they shoot -15(like at Hoylake) or you do something to try to make the pros struggle a little. By doing that, however, you become very susceptible, in my view, to setting up a golf course which alters completely from the morning to the afternoon, and where two virtually identical shots can end up 100 yards away from each other.

There were various examples today of where Jiminez and Stenson basically struck the ball to the exact same spot and one would jump through the green and the other would bounce soft and then curl into one of the bunkers. It simply isn't fair. Tiger Woods played one of the best rounds of golf you'll ever see today and he was still one over. Westwood played an inferior round in many ways and ended up hitting a better score.

I could go on all day about how badly this course is set up. It takes a lot for the pros to criticise a course, but Mickleson and Poulter made their views clear. You can literally hit the ball in the middle of the fairway and the ball could take a bad bounce and end up six feet under some thorns. The bunkers have downward gradients literally twenty yards away from them. There have been players putting into the bunkers. These are top pros.

Links golf is fun. It's one of my favourite types of golf, but it isn't much of a coincidence that the vast majority of qualifying rounds for the Open take place on parkland courses. Why? It's a fairer test of golf that is less weather dependent. Links has never been a fair indication of the best player, which is why you've seen Darren Clarke, Todd Hamilton, Ben Curtis, Ernie Els(completely out of form), Paul Lawrie, Stewart Cink winning it. I could go on. I apologise for going on.
 
I'm generally in agreement, except I like having the course hard enough for players to be playing at -1, -2 but no better really.

The issue is here that the course isn't hard - it's just set up stupidly.

Essentially, the club are in a difficult position. Either you set up the course properly, with acceptable pin positions and sensible watering of fairways and they shoot -15(like at Hoylake) or you do something to try to make the pros struggle a little. By doing that, however, you become very susceptible, in my view, to setting up a golf course which alters completely from the morning to the afternoon, and where two virtually identical shots can end up 100 yards away from each other.

There were various examples today of where Jiminez and Stenson basically struck the ball to the exact same spot and one would jump through the green and the other would bounce soft and then curl into one of the bunkers. It simply isn't fair. Tiger Woods played one of the best rounds of golf you'll ever see today and he was still one over. Westwood played an inferior round in many ways and ended up hitting a better score.

I could go on all day about how badly this course is set up. It takes a lot for the pros to criticise a course, but Mickleson and Poulter made their views clear. You can literally hit the ball in the middle of the fairway and the ball could take a bad bounce and end up six feet under some thorns. The bunkers have downward gradients literally twenty yards away from them. There have been players putting into the bunkers. These are top pros.

Links golf is fun. It's one of my favourite types of golf, but it isn't much of a coincidence that the vast majority of qualifying rounds for the Open take place on parkland courses. Why? It's a fairer test of golf that is less weather dependent. Links has never been a fair indication of the best player, which is why you've seen Darren Clarke, Todd Hamilton, Ben Curtis, Ernie Els(completely out of form), Paul Lawrie, Stewart Cink winning it. I could go on. I apologise for going on.

I agree.

They need to try and keep in a lot more even. I suppose day one and two even out as each player goes out early one day and late the next. But there shouldn't be that much of a difference, it was just ridiculous. And to be honest, I found it tedious. I was getting annoyed looking at lads hitting great shots and then ending up 20 yards through the green. I don't know what the rules are, but surely the greens can be watered to at least make them playable?