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Yayyyy well done, Justin!
Well done Justin, worth waiting up for. Finally an Englishman wins a major again. It's been coming for Rose for some time now, he's really matured since he went to the States and is now one of the most consistant performers on the PGA Tour. Rose could well go on from here and win a fist full of majors.
These idiots who shout shit like "mashed potatoes" when people hit their drives need to be shot.
These idiots who shout shit like "mashed potatoes" when people hit their drives need to be shot.
Mickleson playing beautifully.
The course isn't really playing too difficult out there. As usual, the R and A only choose courses that are weather dependent. There could be a -8 if someone gets going.
Would be nice to see a new course added but it is very unlikely. Trump Links would be excellent in 20 years. Incredibly tough course. The best I've ever played.
I've heard good things about it. Obviously the newer the course, the more it'll cater for the modern longer-hitting golfer.
Incidentally, a lot of the players not happy with the pin positions. Poulter especially. No great suprise. They rarely get it right.
What absolute horseshit from McIlroy. He needs a serious kick in the hole. There goes €4 I put on him!
Of my 3 other bets, only Jordan Spieth is doing well. I got him at 125/1 though so he'd be the one I'd prefer to win. Mannassaro is out and McDowell is struggling a bit.
Some big hitters not making the cut though. I'm not so sure about how they seem to be obsessed with making the courses play to par or over in the majors these days. I think for Thursday and Friday they should set them up pretty easy to ease the players into playing great golf then tighten them up for the weekend. I'd be surprised if anyone ends up under par when this is over.
I want birdies!!!!!!!!!!!!
Westwood playing like he wants to win this. Showing aggression and it's paying off.
He couldn't, could he?
Westwood isn't going to sleep very well tonight!
Me neither!
I don't really mind if the course is hard at all, I hate seeing players at -20 (-3 to -8, something like that is what I prefer). But there's a difference between a hard course and greens that are impossible to putt on in the afternoon. And then they put the pins in ridiculous positions.
The way the greens are you are much better off playing in the morning. It's set up for someone to start in the morning, post a ridiculously good 66 or something, come back from 7 shots behind and win it.
The players playing in the afternoon on those dried out greens have little or not hope.
I'm generally in agreement, except I like having the course hard enough for players to be playing at -1, -2 but no better really.
The issue is here that the course isn't hard - it's just set up stupidly.
Essentially, the club are in a difficult position. Either you set up the course properly, with acceptable pin positions and sensible watering of fairways and they shoot -15(like at Hoylake) or you do something to try to make the pros struggle a little. By doing that, however, you become very susceptible, in my view, to setting up a golf course which alters completely from the morning to the afternoon, and where two virtually identical shots can end up 100 yards away from each other.
There were various examples today of where Jiminez and Stenson basically struck the ball to the exact same spot and one would jump through the green and the other would bounce soft and then curl into one of the bunkers. It simply isn't fair. Tiger Woods played one of the best rounds of golf you'll ever see today and he was still one over. Westwood played an inferior round in many ways and ended up hitting a better score.
I could go on all day about how badly this course is set up. It takes a lot for the pros to criticise a course, but Mickleson and Poulter made their views clear. You can literally hit the ball in the middle of the fairway and the ball could take a bad bounce and end up six feet under some thorns. The bunkers have downward gradients literally twenty yards away from them. There have been players putting into the bunkers. These are top pros.
Links golf is fun. It's one of my favourite types of golf, but it isn't much of a coincidence that the vast majority of qualifying rounds for the Open take place on parkland courses. Why? It's a fairer test of golf that is less weather dependent. Links has never been a fair indication of the best player, which is why you've seen Darren Clarke, Todd Hamilton, Ben Curtis, Ernie Els(completely out of form), Paul Lawrie, Stewart Cink winning it. I could go on. I apologise for going on.