Nah, I can see this blowing over, unlike the Woods/Garcia feud.
2013 Golf Majors
- Thread starter mariachi-19
- Start date
Tiger has said the comment was "wrong and hurtful", as you said it seems more stereotypical than racist, which begs the question why it would be hurtful rather than annoying?
Maybe, just maybe Tiger is using Garcia's words to his advantage int heir little bitchfight and maybe, just maybe he's not as hurt as he claims to be.
Just speculation, but I know that I've had the potato thing thrown at me, even on here so many times and I never felt it was hurtful.
Just speculation, but I know that I've had the potato thing thrown at me, even on here so many times and I never felt it was hurtful.
what's annoying to you may be hurtful to the next guy. there's no way to know how someone would take that - unless you knew the person quite well.
Never having been the victim of racism, it is difficult for me to assume how anyone who has would react to remarks that could be construed as racist.
I will just say it was obviously a stupid thing for Garcia to say, when you make a remark based on a racial stereotype you run a big chance as coming accross as racist.
It's not something you can forget easily. And the next time something like that happens it opens up the old wounds.
Tiger's been a dick to Garcia for years so he's not going to let the opportunity go by now without sticking it to Sergio. If he's genuinely hurt and offended then fair enough but I just don't see it.
Well, Garcia's made himself look like a racist fool...
But the fact is his anger towards Woods is totally justified. After the incident at the Players, Woods told the media that the stewards had cleared Woods to play (after which he took the club out of his bag which caused the noise). Both stewards who were there at the time have reacted angrily to Woods' claims to the press. Both stewards state they did not give any go ahead to Woods to play a shot.
But then, we already knew Woods is a liar & cheat. And it's not the first time Woods' opponents have accused him of putting them off whilst playing a shot. A Tiger doesn't change his stripes it seems.
But the fact is his anger towards Woods is totally justified. After the incident at the Players, Woods told the media that the stewards had cleared Woods to play (after which he took the club out of his bag which caused the noise). Both stewards who were there at the time have reacted angrily to Woods' claims to the press. Both stewards state they did not give any go ahead to Woods to play a shot.
But then, we already knew Woods is a liar & cheat. And it's not the first time Woods' opponents have accused him of putting them off whilst playing a shot. A Tiger doesn't change his stripes it seems.
Have people lost their mind? He can invite me, I'll eat the chicken.
Tiger, Rory and Adam Scott grouped together for the US Open. That should be fun.
If only they had Sergio as well.
If only they had Sergio as well.
Got the LPGA in town this weekend, come August the men will be in town for a major, The PGA Championship.
The Open is practically in my backyard: Merion Golf Club. Beautiful course.
I've been looking into this weekend's golf from a punting perspective after work today and I am still no closer to finalising a golfer or three that I am wholly confident in. Analysing the course itself and how it's likely to be played is the biggest question of the lot with the inclement weather conditions at present. Weather forecasts indicate the rain to come down tomorrow afternoon so those out early tomorrow morning have a great chance of posting a good early score. As it's a short, technical course, it's going to take some skill and ingenuity to navigate it and it's one of the few courses where big hitters aren't at an advantage. Wayward strikers of the ball will also be punished as the rough is as penalising as anywhere on Tour. The Tour will also try to keep the scoring manageable as possible (the "McIlroy effect" after he tore up Congressional in 2011) so birdie opportunities will have be taken whenever they present themselves as they won't be plentiful.
I could be looking at this completely wrong (I'd welcome some thoughts as discussion is the best way to analysing this) but I chose three main categories to focus on possible winners this weekend: fairways hit, GIR and putting. Taking these into consideration, I have five golfers whom I am quite keen on, but would like to trim that figure down to three, or a maximum or four.
If push came to shove, I'd take Weekley, Snedeker, Clark and possibly Stenson. Fowler, whom I like and consider for every Major, is just too inconsistent, but his course form here could be vital. It's a very open, er, Open and hopefully the rain holds off to make it an enjoyable spectacle.
What do you gents fancy yourselves?
I could be looking at this completely wrong (I'd welcome some thoughts as discussion is the best way to analysing this) but I chose three main categories to focus on possible winners this weekend: fairways hit, GIR and putting. Taking these into consideration, I have five golfers whom I am quite keen on, but would like to trim that figure down to three, or a maximum or four.
Henrik Stenson (70/1):
Fairways % - 1st
GIR - 3rd
Putting - 110th
Additional information - His statistics speak for themselves (fairways and GIR, and he's also ranked 3rd in scrambling from the rough, something which will be necessary this weekend for everyone) and his good form (three top-10s this year), coupled with some good showings at previous US Opens, indicate he could well be featuring at the top of the leaderboard come Sunday.
Boo Weekley (100/1):
Fairways % - 20th
GIR - 8th
Putting - 154th
Additional information - Recent winner at Colonial, four top-10 finishes this year and excellent approach shots to the green indicate Boo has the game to do well at Merion. Boo is also looks set to get the favourable weather conditions so I wouldn't be surprised to see him on top of the leaderboard after Day 1.
Tim Clark (100/1):
Fairways % - 2nd
GIR - 145th
Putting - 20th
Additional information - Very accurate off the tee and among the best on the green. He's starting to hit form again and I think the course will suit him.
Rickie Fowler (66/1):
Fairways % - 70th
GIR - 132nd
Putting - 22nd
Additional information - He played Merion as a member of the US Walker Cup team back in 2009, winning four out of four games. Not many in the field have that competitive experience here.
Brandt Snedeker (35/1):
Fairways % - 9th
GIR - 12th
Putting - 20th
Additional information - In great form the past 12 months. He won an event on a short, technical course late last year with a winning score of -10 so he has the game to do well here. Probably the form player in the world for the first four months of the year.
Fairways % - 1st
GIR - 3rd
Putting - 110th
Additional information - His statistics speak for themselves (fairways and GIR, and he's also ranked 3rd in scrambling from the rough, something which will be necessary this weekend for everyone) and his good form (three top-10s this year), coupled with some good showings at previous US Opens, indicate he could well be featuring at the top of the leaderboard come Sunday.
Boo Weekley (100/1):
Fairways % - 20th
GIR - 8th
Putting - 154th
Additional information - Recent winner at Colonial, four top-10 finishes this year and excellent approach shots to the green indicate Boo has the game to do well at Merion. Boo is also looks set to get the favourable weather conditions so I wouldn't be surprised to see him on top of the leaderboard after Day 1.
Tim Clark (100/1):
Fairways % - 2nd
GIR - 145th
Putting - 20th
Additional information - Very accurate off the tee and among the best on the green. He's starting to hit form again and I think the course will suit him.
Rickie Fowler (66/1):
Fairways % - 70th
GIR - 132nd
Putting - 22nd
Additional information - He played Merion as a member of the US Walker Cup team back in 2009, winning four out of four games. Not many in the field have that competitive experience here.
Brandt Snedeker (35/1):
Fairways % - 9th
GIR - 12th
Putting - 20th
Additional information - In great form the past 12 months. He won an event on a short, technical course late last year with a winning score of -10 so he has the game to do well here. Probably the form player in the world for the first four months of the year.
If push came to shove, I'd take Weekley, Snedeker, Clark and possibly Stenson. Fowler, whom I like and consider for every Major, is just too inconsistent, but his course form here could be vital. It's a very open, er, Open and hopefully the rain holds off to make it an enjoyable spectacle.
What do you gents fancy yourselves?
McIlroy, Snedeker, Stricker and maybe Justin Rose. GIR is the critical stat for this Major and these four are amongst the best.
Woods has to be favourite, my money's on him.
When you look at the odds on the field, I feel money needs to go down on Woods. 6/1 for the favourite when the rest are almost deemed rank outsiders is too good. Not to mention he's due a major, should navigate around this course as well or better than anyone else. Good price.
Other is McIlroy. Out of form for a while, but they said the same before he won the PGA. If his game is in some sort of order he'll make a mockery of that price.
Gone for both to win. Never do that; always have some money on each way, so come on Rory!
Other is McIlroy. Out of form for a while, but they said the same before he won the PGA. If his game is in some sort of order he'll make a mockery of that price.
Gone for both to win. Never do that; always have some money on each way, so come on Rory!
Play suspended and it is getting really dark. Course is about 7 miles as the crow flies from my house.
No golf until tomorrow I'd say, gentlemen, no?
Hope it's all done by Sunday otherwise I'll miss the end of it. 
Sergio 6 over already.
It's sunny and rather warm: go figure. They might be able to get the entire round in today as they can probably play until close to 8:30 pm. My friends are on their way over there now, the lucky so and sos.
Kevin Phelan, orginally from Co. Waterford, is T3 at the moment on -1.
Hon the Déise!
Hon the Déise!
Luke Donald leads. Rule Brittania!
Sergio battled back to get to 3 over yesterday , same as Tiger but both started the day 7 shots back. Better weather today I think, should lead to some lower scores, not sure either guy can get back in the hunt though.
Poulter and Rose both on Even par, going by past evidence and after his pivotal role at the Ryder Cup i'd choose to see Pouler be successful out of the two of them.
Nothing against Rose personally but how many times has he been in just this sort of position and flattered to deceive?
Nothing against Rose personally but how many times has he been in just this sort of position and flattered to deceive?
Anyone up to 4 or 5 over could win this. Amazing how difficult this 'easy' course is playing. Great stuff actually although I do prefer a slightly easier course and a lot of players under par.
I have and EW bet on Westwood (D'oh) Rose and Donald. At least I'm getting a run for my money so far.
Rookie mistake. I can't tell you how much nicer it's been watching this tournament with no money on him.Fiver on Woods and McIlroy, but need them both to make a move today. Par for them might not be good enough. -1 or -2 should be. Just be in with a good shout on Sunday.
What time is kick off?
I believe 5:15 BST. I also think Rory and Woods are together again and that there's group of three going out. Which is shit.
I put nowhere near that amount of thought into my punts for this.
I went with Donald, Els and Schwartzel
Christ, Rory and Tiger might as well call it a day.
Really disgraceful levels of slow play on show here which sadly permeates into the amateur game.
It's looking pretty tight at the top. Punishing course. Dunno why but I do like big Phil. Donald seems a bit charisma free.
Yeah, he's very hard to dislike (except during The Ryder Cup, where he's the same as the rest). Something thoroughly likeable about him. Might be the way he's always saying 'darn' and 'gosh' and 'goodness' round the course, whereas Tiger's more 'you fecking cnut, get in the goddamn hole'.
Also he's won me some money. Nevertheless, rooting for Rose and Donald tomorrow, although I do reckon Lefty'll win it; too hard to make shots on this course, and as he sees that no one's catching him, he'll play more conservatively. Need people to make early moves for it to be a good final day IMO.
Also he's won me some money. Nevertheless, rooting for Rose and Donald tomorrow, although I do reckon Lefty'll win it; too hard to make shots on this course, and as he sees that no one's catching him, he'll play more conservatively. Need people to make early moves for it to be a good final day IMO.
Donald implodes in a major. Surprise surprise.
Donald and Westwood are easily good enough to win a major at some point but they lack the mentality to get through. Donald should have just dropped one shot over the last two, instead it was three.
I like Rose though, even if he does look identical to Adam Johnson. Really top bloke and starting to play well again. Good shout for The Open.
I like Rose though, even if he does look identical to Adam Johnson. Really top bloke and starting to play well again. Good shout for The Open.
Does the damning verdict on Donald and Westwood hold any water, i.e. that they are money players first and foremost, and are happy enough to consistently make top 10s but don't have the mentality to win those elusive big ones? I always thought it was bunkum myself but it's uncanny how often they seem to be contented with top 10 finishes in tournaments.
Yeah I wouldn't judge him on the Ryder Cup stuff- think they all get caught up in the wave of patriotism. He always seems a gent compared to Tiger's more abrasive personality. If Rose doesn''t win, I hope he does.
It's tight though and given how difficult the course is playing, particularly the last four or five holes, I reckon it could be a good night of twists and turns. Someone like Schwartzl could easily go on a charge.
It does seem like both are heading the same way as Colin Montgomerie. Donald certainly has the game to win but does seem to just fall short. He's been number one I guess, but I doubt I'd ever put money on him to win a major. Maybe he needs to get that sports psychologist in who sorted out Ronnie O'Sullivan's head.
I don't even think it's about going on a charge as much as not bogeying holes. It's why I think Phil'll win. As long as he holds his score, they'll have to chase, and I'd expect mistakes to be made rather than birdies. 9/4 too, might have a fiver to recoup my Tiger/Rory losses.