2012 Ryder Cup

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Unbelievable. Got some of my mates down the golf club round and must have kept the whole street awake.

When we just played 12 singles with no tactics involved we came up trumps. Fair play to the Americans though - pure class from their players, especially Mickleson, for the way in which they handled defeat. Davis Love III on the other hand deserved all he got for setting up a stupid golf course. Cheats never prosper. Brilliant to watch. Rose and Poulter particularly sensational.
 
"Buckle up everybody, it could be an amazing ride". - Ian Poulter this morning.

Poulter a worthy entry to the SPOTY shortlist IMO.
 
It may have something to do with playing Europe as opposed to a country. Very few people are passionate about Europe outside of fiscal policy. So maybe it all sounds a bit OTT to us in this particular context.

Possibly, but the fact that it's one country against a whole continent probably further explains the sort of national pride that seems to be so annoying to ya'll.

Big difference between being there and talking about it on a forum.

This is a bit of a tangent and not entirely directed at you, but this is a growing problem in a society that is becoming more and more digital.

It's same type of attitude that makes people think it's okay to taunt opposition fans about Hillsborough or Munich online or abuse players, referees, etc on Twitter. What you write online is every bit as much a representation of who you are as a person as what you say. I could go on for a bit about it, but as I've put off dinner with the missus as long as possible for the golf, I'll just leave with a final congratulations to Europe.
 
After all that, why is it that some of these guys haven't won a major yet? I'm thinking of people like Donald and Poulter primarily, not sure about Rose when it comes to the mentality required to see out a winning round on Sunday.

Different type of golf. Matchplay for a start. You're not playing for yourself any more. You're also having to take putts on, when you'd usually be glad to take two. Number of reasons really.
"Buckle up everybody, it could be an amazing ride". - Ian Poulter this morning.

Poulter a worthy entry to the SPOTY shortlist IMO.

Doubtful. Only done the one weekend. In other years, definitely. Sadly he won't even touch a top five.
 
Rose and Poulter particularly sensational.
Poulter was fantastic throughout. Rose's win over Mickelson was really the turning point with that long putt on the 17th being key after Mickelson had nearly chipped in.
 
Oh Al, I don't hear you complaining about Lawrie today! The old guy was class today and justified his place!
 
Oh Al, I don't hear you complaining about Lawrie today! The old guy was class today and justified his place!

Yeh, I was wrong on him. I thought he played one of their weaker players(Snedeker hit a probable 74-5 today had he got to the end) but you still have to go and beat him and he did comfortably. He's never been that bad, but that was the performance of his life.

I still think it was a tactical nightmare but who cares? When it came down to it, we showed incredible heart and bottle, even among our weaker players. We're much better individually than they are too.
 
Poulter was fantastic throughout. Rose's win over Mickelson was really the turning point with that long putt on the 17th being key after Mickelson had nearly chipped in.

Rose was very good in the groups but was just unfortunate to have played against the best scores. He had a great tournament. Garcia's win on the last against Furyk will be overlooked but he did unbelievably well to stay calm and get the win there. So many amazing stories.
 
Was at the Open a couple of years back and Mickleson spent about 45 minutes at the end of his round making sure he'd signed every autograph and taken every photo. Top, top man.
 
Yeh, I was wrong on him. I thought he played one of their weaker players(Snedeker hit a probable 74-5 today had he got to the end) but you still have to go and beat him and he did comfortably. He's never been that bad, but that was the performance of his life.

I still think it was a tactical nightmare but who cares? When it came down to it, we showed incredible heart and bottle, even among our weaker players. We're much better individually than they are too.

I was only taking the mick. I was agreeing with you yesterday!

Was at the Open a couple of years back and Mickleson spent about 45 minutes at the end of his round making sure he'd signed every autograph and taken every photo. Top, top man.

Classy guy, and you could really see it today.
 
Colin Montgomerie doesn't half like to praise himself does he? fecking idiot.
 
Rose's final two putts were incredible. Much respect for Mickelson too for his genuine reaction.

Just watching his reaction to Justin's putt at the 17th. Excellent sportsmanship from Phil.
 
After all that, why is it that some of these guys haven't won a major yet? I'm thinking of people like Donald and Poulter primarily, not sure about Rose when it comes to the mentality required to see out a winning round on Sunday.

Poulter's a completely different player in match play. Decidedly average in typical stroke play format, but a complete monster when it's match play.

Donald is an top end course manager in my eyes. He does everything 8 or 9 out of 10, but doesn't have that one outstanding scoring ability that can set him apart and give him that one low round of any week to win rather than just be top 5/10. Maybe it's his attitude rather than ability? As good as he is and as often as he's in contention, he's got to win more.
 
Congrats to Butch in the commentary team. Very humble and clearly a man who just loves good golf.
 
Had been backing Europe at bigger prices and laying ome back. Ended up needing Europe for £1300 for a £70 liability going down the last. Cashed out before tigers last putt and ended up with £300. Still can't believe he missed it and conceded.
 
I have to admit though, i've never really watched a lot of golf, but for some reason got drawn into this from the first day.

I really didn't understand what was going on the first two days when they went out in fours.

An unbelievable comeback, and from what I've heard one of, if not the best tournaments to watch in recent memory. I always thought golf was a tad dull to watch, but yesterday was quite incredible sporting entertainment.
 
Possibly, but the fact that it's one country against a whole continent probably further explains the sort of national pride that seems to be so annoying to ya'll.



This is a bit of a tangent and not entirely directed at you, but this is a growing problem in a society that is becoming more and more digital.

It's same type of attitude that makes people think it's okay to taunt opposition fans about Hillsborough or Munich online or abuse players, referees, etc on Twitter. What you write online is every bit as much a representation of who you are as a person as what you say. I could go on for a bit about it, but as I've put off dinner with the missus as long as possible for the golf, I'll just leave with a final congratulations to Europe.

Funny but it was USA fans who were doing that sort of thing.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/go...-wives-and-late-captain-Seve-Ballesteros.html
 
Strange how golf lovers can identify with some artificial thing called 'Europe'. :)

They should replace the Ryder Cup with a competition between golf pros worldwide whose surnames begin a-j and those with surnames k-z. I wonder would people get as worked up?
 
Okay we've seen Europe and America, what would be your Rest of the World team?

Of course you get twelve picks. :)
 
What a fecking unbelievable Ryder Cup that was. The emotional ups and downs over the three days make it the bets sports event in the world for me. Nothing comes close in terms of tension. It was really good watching it in a sports bar full of Americans.
 
Fair bump. Said it before, second favourite event behind the World Cup. That Sunday was the greatest day of the summer for me. Better than Farah/Ennis/Rutherford or any cycling, or anything in the Euros, or Murray's Wimbledon final or US Open win.

I could talk all day about this Ryder Cup. In fact I could probably talk for a whole day just about Sunday.

At the start of it, you knew we weren't going to win, but just hoped we could get off to a good start to give ourselves something of a chance. Or at best not lose too badly.

Not only did they have a better team, they were playing much better golf, were at home, and in their favourite part of the event. It needed something of a miracle.

They needed 4.5 points from 12. They needed 4.5 from:
Woods, the second best golfer in the world, to beat Francesco Molinari, who'd hardly played.
Steve Stricker - Mr Consistent - against someone who had underperformed consistently for over a year in Martin Kaymer.
Brandt Snedeker, who'd also been in great form, to beat Paul Lawrie.
Jason Dufner to beat Peter Hanson.
Matt Kuchar to beat a massively out of form Lee Westwood.
Dustin Johnson to beat rookie Nicolas Colsaerts.

We needed half a point from those five, and then to win every other match. We did even better than that.

McIlroy, Donald, Rose and Lawrie had all started well. McIlroy should have been quite a few up, but ended up A/S. Rose also let his lead slip, and Donald was doing his best to throw his away. Lawrie fortunately tied his up early on. A shock point. Poulter - the man of the Ryder Cup - eventually did as he always does - delivered.

Rose had a tough putt to give himself a chance on the 16th. A putt so good Mickelson actually applauded it. Then, onto the 17th, 1 down, needs to halve the hole at worst. And he'd given himself half a chance by making the green. Then, Mickelson pulled out one of his specials. Almost. An incredible chip, so close to being dormie 1 (or more likely, 2&1), resulted in the match actually being A/S going onto the 18th. Rose's putt was one of the best I'd ever seen. Had at least three feet of break, 50 feet in length, in. A/S with one to play. We needed a half from this, and Rose had given himself a chance.

Mickelson's second on the 18th was uncharacteristically riddled with adrenaline, bouncing away from the green. Rose needed to get somewhere near the hole and he'd win the match, which he did. It was at this point I really believed it was on. But looking down the leaderboard, we still needed to win all the matches that were A/S and win the ones we were leading in. We'd not seen much of Garcia's match, but Furyk was always just ahead. You hoped he could sneak a half, whilst beginning to write off Hanson and Colsaerts' matches.

Zach Johnson was unrelenting, too, meaning they were on for 13 points, needing 1.5 more from four matches, all of which were in the balance.

Fortunately, Westwood edged further away, before sealing his match 3&2. Another point. 12-12, just two points away. It was still unlikely. Garcia looked set to tie, whilst Kaymer's was still in the balance, and you could never trust either of Molinari or Woods.

But then it did swing - hugely. Garcia, A/S on the final hole, could secure another invaluable half. Or go one better and secure an incredible win. Furyk, such an excellent putter, had missed three putts from within 15 feet on three consecutive holes. Holing any of them, would've secured a half, but he missed all of them. They'd cracked. We were in the ascendancy.

We were one point from victory, with two matches to play.

Stricker had hung on, but at the final hole, he looked to have thrown it away by dumping his second shot, some, 70 feet from the hole, whereas Kaymer's was a fairly straightforward two-putt, to halve the hole, and retain the cup. Stricker's landed nearly 10 feet wide of the hole. The putts he'd missed over the weekend meant this was no gimme, and had he missed, he'd have actually conceded the cup. But Kaymer's putt raced past, meaning Stricker could apply some real pressure by making his putt, which he did. Eruption in the crowd. Belief restored. Can you think of a more high-pressure situation than having to knock in a ten-footer to win the Ryder Cup, or miss, and have the finger of blame pointed at you from a whole continent?

It's funny to look back on really. For a couple of minutes we all forgot Kaymer's nationality. Until he retained the Ryder Cup for us. At which point we all remembered he was German, and that only the nerves of steel of a German (or Ian Poulter) could knock that putt in so easily.

Well that was enjoyable to type.