Mayo through...0-11 to 0-8.
Painful to watch that shite I'd imagine.
Painful to watch that shite I'd imagine.
2005 GAA Championship
- Thread starter Nialler
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yep like watching big brother live!! Feck all happening most of the time and then something kinda interesting kicks off about every 20 mins!Keane16 said:
Stick said:
Feck that. We'll put them to the sword on Sunday, I hope. The boring tight bastards. They'll be back to Mountjoy Square before the clampers arrive......
They wont be a bother to ye!! Tie up mcdonald and watch as their short passing game breaks down!Keane16 said:
Stick said:
Tying up Beckham is a bookable offence this year I believe - or a 'tick' if your name is O'Sé.
and another thing - €35 a friggin' ticket!
It's hard to overstate how much if Mayo's play goes through Beckham - all of it (at least). If fact, sometimes they appear to want to give him the ball to fast - as soon as he appears near them, that's all they want to do.
Anyway, €20 to stand on the Hill, that's more reasonable, feck all women there today though.
I cant see Kerry losing this one despite the white boots, hair gel, deoderent sprayed on jersey and blonde flowing locks on display
I blame the Flynns
I blame the Flynns
Thats cat!! Ye could almost get a hoor for that in Kerry and 2 in Cork (but would ye want them!!Keane16 said:
) Ah yes the infamous notebook still struggling to understand that and so is Michael Collins by the looks of things!A more reasonable €16 for a spot on the Hill....I think I will, although like most Ciarrai, I've a bad record on the Hill. Last time I was up there Tyrone cheated their way to victory in the '03 semi.
good workmanlike performance from Kerry, you could sense that they merely had to effortlessly up a gear anytime Mayo got a sniff of their lead ....................that Galvin fella is a handy sub
Cork looked handy against Galway, they'll be really up for the semi
Cork looked handy against Galway, they'll be really up for the semi
Nialler said:
A progressive performance with a familiar pattern, a bit like the quarter against Dublin last year. Did enough to win the match in the 15 mins after half time, got a winning gap and then basically let go of the initiative and Mayo kept plugging away, got it down to three in the end, but that flattered them. Last year Dublin didn't stick at it once Kerry made the break, that was the difference. Jack O'Connor won't be impressed with the surrender at the end. I have to say though in the Kerry players defence, the stadium announcer announced two minutes of injury time, but the match played on for 7 or 8 minutes after that, then the ref made to blow up after a kick out, changed his mind, Mayo got another one back....still though, you can't really just stop playing like that....we didn't score in the last 15 mins like.
Cork now, played well today, can they play any better? Who knows. They pushed Kerry hard last month and still lost, but that was Kerry in July - Kerry at the end of August is totally different. Very close match I'd say.
also....twenty bucks to stand on the Hill and get rashered by the sun and watch your team win handy. Not bad work if you can get it.
Cork I think will be a better test but kerry look class!! To see that half back line running at you ye may as well forget about it! I hope for a Dublin Kerry final but head rules heart and I think it will be Tyrone Kerry and you will have to stop oneill while they worry about the Ginger pele!!Keane16 said:
Good win for Cork, good match.
Stick said:
The Cork game will be huge, Jackie O came out this morning and said that Cork would be the favourites for that one......maybe not, but it's not often he speaks so you have to take what you can get. Too close to call IMO, although we will be favourites in reality, not that it matters because we are almost always favourites against everyone anyway.....Cork are flying at the moment, Kerry are winding up for the push for Sam, Morgan is a canny bastard, Jackie O is the canniest of the canny.....feck sake, it'll be pure poker in the build up to that one. There's talk of moving it to Thurles as well - 50,000 packed to capacity. Very good.
As for Dublin v. Tyrone.....The born-agains are a tough side, far tougher than the Arnotts, but they've also had a lot more battles than the Arnotts this year and have gotten involved with the politics of the CDC and referees etc.....Mickey Harte looks desperate as well.....my head says born-agains are cynical and dirty enough to smother them, but if Dublin can get their heads right, this is a good time to meet and a good chance to beat Tyrone..... Verdict: The Born Agains.
yep, Thurles should be the venue
Nialler said:
Tickets organised for next weekend lads?
A sell out I reckon.
Keane16 said:
not yet, the website had none available this morning
I'm wondering how many Tyrone fans will actually make it down considering the poor attendance for the Ulster Final and the fact that they've played so many games so far in the championship
from a Dublin perspective if all the tickets were available to Dublin fans they'd all be snapped up
Nialler said:
Croke Park confirmed as the venue by the GAA.
50,000 - 55,000 absolute maximum, atmosphere won't be as good as at Semple or the Gaelic Grounds in Limerick....tickets will be plentiful however, unless it's some kind of shitty double header/double pricer.
Keane16 said:
thats a pity really, GAA and tradition
at least as you say, tickets will be plentiful
Nialler said:
more like Croke Park and corporate boxes....'we paid for two All-Ireland semi's'....etc..
Keane16 said:
forgot about them
So, these are the fixtures so far.
Football:
QF:
Dublin v Tyrone - Croke Park, Sat 13 Aug
QF:
Armagh v Laois - Croke Park, Sat 20 Aug
SF:
Cork v Kerry - Croke Park, Sun 28 Aug
Hurling:
SF:
Cork v Clare - Croke Park, Sun 14 Aug
SF:
Galway Kilkenny - Croke Park, Sun 21 Aug
Football:
QF:
Dublin v Tyrone - Croke Park, Sat 13 Aug
QF:
Armagh v Laois - Croke Park, Sat 20 Aug
SF:
Cork v Kerry - Croke Park, Sun 28 Aug
Hurling:
SF:
Cork v Clare - Croke Park, Sun 14 Aug
SF:
Galway Kilkenny - Croke Park, Sun 21 Aug
19 new Rules to be ratified by congress this year.
Under new guidelines the GAA have issued a new rule.
1. The Basic guide lines are as follows:-
2. As from the 25th of June when Dublin make a sub they do not have to take any player off.
3. Australian Rules Goals will be introduced, these will be swapped from end to end depending which way the GAA...whoops I mean, which way Dublin are playing.
4. In the event of the match being level after 70 minutes Dublin will win.
5. A new backdoor will be introduced, if Dublin lose, they will be out into the Backdoor, if they lose again they may Join the Championship again at the time and date of their choosing.
6. The Dublin goalkeeper may wear rather large comical gloves, to ensure that the ball does not go past him.
7. A Sin-Bin will me introduced - if any opposing players names begin with Mc (e.g McCarthy / McGrath) they will be suspended for a period until Dublin are winning.
8. Hill 16 will be renamed "The Bulmers Hill"
9. If Dublin win the "Mini Sevens" game at half time, their winning margin will be Doubled and added to Dublins half time score.
10. All other teams must have the County Name wrote in the foreign language of English on their jerseys - all money from this rip off trick must be given to the "Bulmers Hill Support Fund"
11. If Dublin are drawn against a team from Ulster ( now to include Laois )
- the Ulster Team will forfeit the game.
12. As part of the deal giving Laois to Ulster, Fermanagh will now join the Leinster Championship - Dublin will be drawn to play Fermanagh in the Hurling Championship ever year.
13. In a rule taken from Cricket - if it rains during the game Dublin will win.
14. Opposing teams must wear sandals.
15. Ginger haired midfielders may not play against Dublin.
16. Balloons (such as those used to aid children playing bowls ) will be used to assist the Dublin Free takers.
17. Dessie Dolan must take all the opposing teams frees.
18. The opposition must include at least one Mayo forward.
19. No other team on the country may wear the colour Blue
Under new guidelines the GAA have issued a new rule.
1. The Basic guide lines are as follows:-
2. As from the 25th of June when Dublin make a sub they do not have to take any player off.
3. Australian Rules Goals will be introduced, these will be swapped from end to end depending which way the GAA...whoops I mean, which way Dublin are playing.
4. In the event of the match being level after 70 minutes Dublin will win.
5. A new backdoor will be introduced, if Dublin lose, they will be out into the Backdoor, if they lose again they may Join the Championship again at the time and date of their choosing.
6. The Dublin goalkeeper may wear rather large comical gloves, to ensure that the ball does not go past him.
7. A Sin-Bin will me introduced - if any opposing players names begin with Mc (e.g McCarthy / McGrath) they will be suspended for a period until Dublin are winning.
8. Hill 16 will be renamed "The Bulmers Hill"
9. If Dublin win the "Mini Sevens" game at half time, their winning margin will be Doubled and added to Dublins half time score.
10. All other teams must have the County Name wrote in the foreign language of English on their jerseys - all money from this rip off trick must be given to the "Bulmers Hill Support Fund"
11. If Dublin are drawn against a team from Ulster ( now to include Laois )
- the Ulster Team will forfeit the game.
12. As part of the deal giving Laois to Ulster, Fermanagh will now join the Leinster Championship - Dublin will be drawn to play Fermanagh in the Hurling Championship ever year.
13. In a rule taken from Cricket - if it rains during the game Dublin will win.
14. Opposing teams must wear sandals.
15. Ginger haired midfielders may not play against Dublin.
16. Balloons (such as those used to aid children playing bowls ) will be used to assist the Dublin Free takers.
17. Dessie Dolan must take all the opposing teams frees.
18. The opposition must include at least one Mayo forward.
19. No other team on the country may wear the colour Blue
the GAA would be bankrupt without us, hence the new rules
its a very subdued build up to this game compared to previous years, none of the Dublin players pictured at various functions/openings/charity events, no pre-match quotes from the players, nothing, I hope its worth it
I hope the Dubs have finally learned their lesson...
About time they win this thing...
About time they win this thing...
The Red Machine said:
I think they're trying to become cute hoors, play the culchies at their own game, what they need is a combination of both cute hoorness and the famous Dublin "swagger".
Saturday is their biggest test to date, Tyrone have been there and done that
I do feel that Dublin have some sort of a chance on saturday, they have to take the bull by the horns sometime ( another culchie trait they need to work on ) and make the breakthrough but hand on heart know that Tyrone are currently superior at this level as are Armagh & Kerry. Tyrones endurance as a team has been tested big time so far with so many matches, compared to Dublin who've only played 3 matches to get this far, whom this statistic favours at this stage wont be known til saturday
Nialler said:I think they're trying to become cute hoors, play the culchies at their own game, what they need is a combination of both cute hoorness and the famous Dublin "swagger".
Saturday is their biggest test to date, Tyrone have been there and done that
I do feel that Dublin have some sort of a chance on saturday, they have to take the bull by the horns sometime ( another culchie trait they need to work on ) and make the breakthrough but hand on heart know that Tyrone are currently superior at this level as are Armagh & Kerry. Tyrones endurance as a team has been tested big time so far with so many matches, compared to Dublin who've only played 3 matches to get this far, whom this statistic favours at this stage wont be known til saturday
Nialler must have Kerry relations or something.....being a cute hoor is what it's all about. There was never a fear factor about Dublin while they were in the papers everyday, and on the radio every night giving interviews and fighting amongst themselves, getting photographed in magazines etc....now that they've gone to ground, no one knows what to expect. There's still no fear factor about them to be honest, not when they play any of the serious teams who don't pay attention to that kind of thing, but they are a different proposition. Look at Jackie O. The man never says a word, half the players appear to be mute, the Kerry media can hardly arsed with them at this stage (and play the game anyway) - yet Kerry are All-Ireland Champions and he has everyone of the household names in the Kerry team busting a gut for fear of being axed......all on the QT.
Dublin is a pressure cooker despite lack of success whilst Kerry simmer along quietly despite being champions
feck the media
feck the media
That's true enough....but it's always been like that and it's always going to be like that. At the end of the day, when the ball is thrown in next Saturday, the Dublin team can rely on 65-70,000 fans screaming for them - and no other county gets that.
Keane16 said:
there'll be approx 50k Dublin fans there on Saturday, max, the rest will be predominately Tyrone and a few thousand neutrals
If Dublin make the semi they'll be lucky to have 20k fans in attendance, not out of lack of want but out of GAA stupidity as a large majority of the tickets are sent to every county board in the country and through downright skullduggery these tickets usually end up in our opponents hands. Having said that our opponents are the other 31 counties.
Is it a sell-out?
Keane16 said:
I dont know but personally I couldn't get a ticket online last Monday morning, this is probably the last match I'll get to see even if they win because the semi will be impossible to get into unless your a club member. This actually grates me as a club member in Leitrim will have a better chance of getting to an All-Ireland semi involving Dublin than a Dub with no club affiliation
yeah, that's true alright - been that way for yonks though. I generally don't have a problem with tickets, except if its a massive game and I leave it late, or a double header or All-Ireland Final or something. It was harder to get tickets for the Westmeath-Derry/Kerry-Dublin double header last year, than it was to get tickets for the final. I don't think it'll be too hard to get tickets for the rest of the year unless we draw Dublin at some stage....it could only be the final really - I don't know if I'd even try to be honest.
Watched the Dub v Tyrone game, very enjoyable game, I think the Dubs chance of beating Tyrone passed today, I fancy Tyrone big time for the replay.I actually fancy them for the All Ireland.
Peter Canavan is a joy to watch, even in the twilight of his career.
Peter Canavan is a joy to watch, even in the twilight of his career.
It was a decent game....I don't know if Dublin will have the stomach to do it all again, whereas Tyrone will, and they'll also surely play better next time.
All these tough close matches for Tyrone though....they're adding up.
All these tough close matches for Tyrone though....they're adding up.
Keane16 said:
I dont know in what context you are using the word "stomach" but one thing Dublin have shown all year is a great "stomach" for the battle, hence their never say die attitude which has saved their bacon on more than one occasion.They will also relish the fact that they are still involved in the Championship albeit still at the quarter final stage.
After the match while running up to the changing rooms via the tunnel it was noticeable that quite a few of the Tyrone lads were thumping the wall with frustration, perhaps at the thought of having to go to another replay ?
I still hold Tyrone as favourites but know for a fact that a lack of "stomach" wont be the reason for failure should Dublin lose, it will probably be Stephen O'Neills fault
Nialler said:I dont know in what context you are using the word "stomach" but one thing Dublin have shown all year is a great "stomach" for the battle, hence their never say die attitude which has saved their bacon on more than one occasion.They will also relish the fact that they are still involved in the Championship albeit still at the quarter final stage.
After the match while running up to the changing rooms via the tunnel it was noticeable that quite a few of the Tyrone lads were thumping the wall with frustration, perhaps at the thought of having to go to another replay ?
I still hold Tyrone as favourites but know for a fact that a lack of "stomach" wont be the reason for failure should Dublin lose, it will probably be Stephen O'Neills fault
I mean I don't think Dublin will have the wherewithall to pull off the win next time out. They were 5 points up at half time yesterday after Tyrone missed a hell of a lot of wides in the first half, yet they ended up getting a last gasp free just to force the replay.....Tyrone didn't have a great day, yet still left it behind them - I bet that's why they were banging the walls. It's alright saying Dublin have bottle etc..(I'm not convinced of that either, Tyrone were the ones with the bottle yesterday), but that's no good when it's a quarter final replay against a team who left it behind them - and who are more battle-hardened, more experienced and in fact, better. The Tyrone camp will be better able to handle the fact that there's a replay IMO.....I think Dublin had the chance yesterday but let it slip, and were lucky to get another shot at it.
Keane16 said:
its all about putting the ball over the bar or in the net, Tyrone probably didn't have a great day which was evident in the 1st half, Dublin didn't have a great day either with another almost catastrophic 2nd half collapse.
There is no argument that Tyrone are the better team, they won an All-Ireland in 2003 and are still up there as one of the top 3 sides in the country. They should win the replay. Dublin are a fairly young team trying to make the breakthrough at this level. They are moving in the right direction and are certainly a lot better than they have been over the last two seasons.
I like this quote from Eamonn Sweeney in the Sunday Indo,
"Two unique things about Dublin football. There is no roll like a Dublin roll, the crowd going mental, the players feeding off the joy of having the most vociferous spectators in the country, every move stamped with unmistakable confidence. A Dublin roll goes over everything in its path, sporting logic is helpless before it. It is a force of nature.
There is no collapse like a Dublin collapse. Armagh 2003, Westmeath 2004, a hat-trick of catastrophe was nearly completed by Tyrone in 2005. When Tyrone moved a couple of points clear with time running out having trailed by 5 points at half-time, Dublin looked like men trying to run while waist deep in water. We were treated to the too familiar sight of a team from the capital suffering the equivalent of a collective nervous breakdown.
But these are different Dubs. Under Tommy Lyons they developed the knack of losing games they should have won. Under Paul Caffrey they've become more adept at getting out of jail than the Colombia Three.
Dublins name might not be on this years championship but its engraved somewhere in the vicinity."
If, and its a big if, Dublin can make the "roll" last for 70 minutes who knows.