Read the room.
19 children and 2 teachers killed in Texas school shooting (24 May 2022)
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Isn’t minority majority rule great?
I am and I have the right to my opinion as does everyone else.
Yes & it’s spectacularly shortsighted & ignorant as has been pointed out.
Wow I genuinely thought that post was a parody. Jesus Christ
Nothing will ever happen till the rich politician kids dies at the hands of a shooter. As long as it’s not them. It’s ok.
I don’t think it is many Americans. At least, living in urban America, I don’t know of anyone who thinks that and that includes gun owning Republicans.
Like many things, it is a failure of democracy and how a vocal minority always decides rules for the majority.
Knowing you COULD try and do something, how do you say you’re horrified and do jack shit. How do they square that with themselves?
Go stand in front of one of the parents and say ”I’m heartbroken ….. but”.
Go stand in front of one of the parents and say ”I’m heartbroken ….. but”.
Politicians including Republicans have been shot and killed. It won’t change anything.
Won’t even happen then. Politicians are slaves to the power & money.
Potentially the biggest human impediment to common sense gun control in the past two decades since the assault weapons ban was allowed to sunset.
Also the idiocy of land voting.
Is each politicians stance on gun laws public knowledge?
If the majority of Americans truly are in favour of change, why don’t they push for something (or say they’ll be voted out next time)? Or is this down to the way US elections work (which I don’t understand)?
Pretty sure plenty of rich kids have died over the years and yet they still hold onto this antiquated right to bear a lethal weapon.
50% of all guns are owned by 3% of this country.
The majority wants common sense gun control, yet can’t get it.
The majority wants common sense gun control, yet can’t get it.
That’s your opinion, one of the mains purposes of that right is so your country could not be overtaken by another military I.E Ukrainian and Russia situation.
Even with UKs ban of guns in 97 homicide rates still went up.
As I said laws don’t apply to criminals, and thinking that this would not happen again if they banned guns is in itself…ignorant
Mostly the latter, unfortunately. There are systemic barriers to achieving the former.
If something were to happen at one of these events maybe that would change minds...
Oh feck it, who am I kidding. Republicans and ammo-sexuals would carry on.
What's that?
Its just a mess isn't it? I live in Manchester I have no need to own a gun, but if I lived in America I would probably buy one because every other lunatic has one, and that's what the problem is. Its completely broken over there.
There’s far more ‘regular’ people out there than criminals.
The second amendment was ratified when it took over a minute to reload a flintlock musket.
If we were invaded, it wouldn’t be the militia that ultimately saved us. Conversely the militia stands no chance against the military.
Theft and rape being illegal doesnt stop them completely either, should they be legal? And I'm not sure anyone wants any and every gun banned, but making it insanely hard to get an AR15 for example shouldnt seem like a bad idea.
No law stops crime it just dissuades it and makes it less common. Its makes an extra barrier where something could go wrong and they might get caught or be unable to do what they wanted to do. It helps in many ways.
Also by the same logic a criminal will always find a way to shoot someone who owns a gun if they really want to. They can just do it when the gun owner is distracted (can set this up too), unprepared, or doesnt have direct access to their gun at that moment. So since the criminal knows what hes going to do and has the ability to plan for it a gun is far more useful to the attacker than the person who is using it for self defence. Until they make psychic guns that can detect murderers thoughts in a wide radius around the armed person that wont change.
So explain why we don't have regular mass shootings in the UK and Europe?
It’s the loss of life and knowing that something could be done to prevent/reduce it that my brain just can’t comprehend.
Will mean little to US posters but I remember where I was when the Jamie Bulger news came out and the two Soham girls. It doesn’t diminish what happened to them but I can get my head around the fact it’s difficult to prevent every sole/dual lunatic. They’re thankfully rare.
But these US school killings are so frequent and nothing‘s done... mental. I’d disown any member of my family who stuck up for these laws.
Will mean little to US posters but I remember where I was when the Jamie Bulger news came out and the two Soham girls. It doesn’t diminish what happened to them but I can get my head around the fact it’s difficult to prevent every sole/dual lunatic. They’re thankfully rare.
But these US school killings are so frequent and nothing‘s done... mental. I’d disown any member of my family who stuck up for these laws.
Basically that some population barren states have the same number of senators as far more populated states, causing a power imbalance. Wyoming has roughly 800K population, but has two senators who wield the same amount of power as the two senators from California or New York.
It’s a colloquialism that speaks to the imbalance & lack of proportionality.
mate they fantastize about that sort of thing happening at one of their socials.That’s not the point at all.
Just like many thought Ukraine didn’t stand a chance against Russia yet 2 months later and Russia is struggling.
They take away someone’s right to bear arms and then what? Freedom of speech or more?
I’m not saying leftist views are all wrong or right wing views are all correct but both have very valid points.
If someone decided tomorrow they want to go kill 15 people they will do it with or without a gun.
I’ll tell you what if someone came into my school with a AR-15 I would rather be the guy with a Glock that has a chance to take the gunman down and in turn save other lives then be massacred.
Guess where you can’t carry in Houston this weekend & will have to pass through metal detectors?
It's like a comedy sketch.
Imagine going to Tesco in the morning and being like; "Could I get an assault rifle, please?"
That country is just ridiculous.
Surely the point of the generic thread for this stuff is that it's so generic to America that new shootings, no matter how heartbreaking, do not require a thread. Just add them to the pile, thoughts and prayers, carry on like nothing ever happened.
This 100%. I've thought about moving to the States a few times in my life and the gun ownership thing always pops up in my head. I've never touched let alone fired a gun in my life and I don't see a reason to ever have to, yet if I ever moved to America I would buy a gun in the first week because every nutter has one.
I 100% agree with your first paragraph.
As for the last one it’s never that thought out, it’s all a reaction and these guys aren’t doing research on what people at shop rite do or don’t carry a gun.
All I’m saying is if a gunman was shooting a mall up and he was 50 feet away from you and your family your going to wish you had a gun and knew how to use it.
As you said, 1000% their should be stricter laws on being able to acquire guns but banning them out right is just stupid.
Slippery slopes don’t materialize.
Again, flintlock muskets were the primary weapon when the 2A was ratified.
It’s much easier with a device that has the force projection of an AR platform.
The ‘good guy with a gun’ scenario rarely is successful.
Also, we are not talking about banning guns, just installing common sense gun reforms to have background checks, cooling off periods, & mandatory training to own specific types of weaponry. No one is talking about taking away all guns.
Extreme leftists and people on this thread seem to think so.
I agree with the whole ending of your post.
I think you’ve watched Red Dawn too many times.
And the UKs murder rate was lower by 2005 (there were multiple reasons for the small increase around 97) and has been every year since…. and we still haven’t been invaded by Russia.
The 2A will always be around.
Some people on here do think that, but that is fantasy.
There needs to be restrictions on the 2A, we’ve done it before yet can’t do it now due to extreme politics.
Yep, they pew pew pew the baddies away.
I know about your unequal senator numbers, I didn't know the the term was land voting.
What's the legal procedure to change the senator numbers and can it be done?