Hammondo
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I might be confusing it with another market type site.Well, you remember incorrectly: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/marcus-rashford/profil/spieler/258923
I might be confusing it with another market type site.Well, you remember incorrectly: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/marcus-rashford/profil/spieler/258923
If you ever needed a proof that markets are clueless and horrible at fair pricing...
fecking Madrid have 4 players in that list, and they aren't even petrol owned
It‘s a bunch of dudes discussing. No science involved.If you ever needed a proof that markets are clueless and horrible at fair pricing...
All of them are overpriced, most of them badly but 150 million for Phil fecking Foden or 130 million for Wirtz are just comical prices
That's not true, the highest Rashford has been rated at was 85m. And a lot goes into the value estimates, it's definitely not just "made up". They take into account things like the player's potential, their form, their consistency over a long period, their current contract length and their trophy haul including individual awards.
Good point.It‘s a bunch of dudes discussing. No science involved.
In my opinion Valverde, Saka and Wirtz shouldn’t be on that list.
fecking Madrid have 4 players in that list, and they aren't even petrol owned
He would be my fav player on the list.
If you ever needed a proof that markets are clueless and horrible at fair pricing...
All of them are overpriced, most of them badly but 150 million for Phil fecking Foden or 130 million for Wirtz are just comical prices
Vinicius influenced big games in the CL with two final goals in a team that doesn’t even look to dominate meaning he was tasked with making the difference. What did Saka do at that level? They’re both more or less equal when it comes to weekly league consistency but Vinicius’s influence at the highest level gives him a clear edge.30 G/A wingers aren't worth €200m in my opinion. In his defense, though, his 21/22 season was truly elite with 41 in LaLiga+CL, but that's just one season and 200m is still a bit too steep IMO. He should be between ~120-150m for me. Similar to Saka.
30 G/A wingers aren't worth €200m in my opinion. In his defense, though, his 21/22 season was truly elite with 41 in LaLiga+CL, but that's just one season and 200m is still a bit too steep IMO. He should be between ~120-150m for me. Similar to Saka.
Yeah and he's also clearly a generational talent the way Mbappe was. People really finding these values so far fetched in a world where 18 year old Mbappe was ACTUALLY bought for like 180m.Yamal has been good for about 9 months.
It's Euros not Pounds, and I would say without PSR restrictions a team like Newcastle would easily be paying these kinds of values for those players. Also PSG of the recent past would have.Oh please, who made this list up?
Yamal £150m?? Ridiculous. The kids barely out of nappies and hasnt done anything!
Foden £130m?? Again, who's making this shite up?
No one's paying £200m for the top 4, no one.
Oh please, who made this list up?
Yamal £150m?? Ridiculous. The kids barely out of nappies and hasnt done anything!
Foden £130m?? Again, who's making this shite up?
No one's paying £200m for the top 4, no one.
Quite literally the world's best player at 24, already won La Liga three times and Champions League twice, and is a big game player who always excels in these games. Of course he is worth that in this crazy market. Not a single player should be above him in terms of value.30 G/A wingers aren't worth €200m in my opinion. In his defense, though, his 21/22 season was truly elite with 41 in LaLiga+CL, but that's just one season and 200m is still a bit too steep IMO. He should be between ~120-150m for me. Similar to Saka.
Wirtz easily best value for money on that list
We'll see, most likely he will leave Bayer in the summer anyway. I doubt that it will require 100 million.
The valuations on that list are quite absurd. Typical list clickbait, made to let people argue.
This kind of lists are nonsens.
fecking Madrid have 4 players in that list, and they aren't even petrol owned
Quite literally the world's best player at 24, already won La Liga three times and Champions League twice, and is a big game player who always excels in these games. Of course he is worth that in this crazy market. Not a single player should be above him in terms of value.
It isn't always about having Messi or Ronaldo like numbers. Would you not take Ronaldinho at 23-24 now for €200m?
Why would I be joking? He is the player likely to win Balon d'Or - with good reason."Quite literally the world's best player at 24"
Please tell me you're joking.
Why would I be joking? He is the player likely to win Balon d'Or - with good reason.
I'm not sure who you believe is better, but it wouldn't surprise me if you think Rashford or Maguire are better. Really not the one to be asking if others are joking with your genuine crazy takes.
Youve done it again buddy30 G/A wingers aren't worth €200m in my opinion. In his defense, though, his 21/22 season was truly elite with 41 in LaLiga+CL, but that's just one season and 200m is still a bit too steep IMO. He should be between ~120-150m for me. Similar to Saka.
@carvajal , @giornoI don't think those valuations are super unrealistic in terms of potential market movements. They are overpriced, yes, but great players are often overpriced.
It's just hard to assess because, other than Haaland, it's unlikely that any of those players will make a big money move.
But the market cooled down because they were not close to worth those amounts.Yeah and he's also clearly a generational talent the way Mbappe was. People really finding these values so far fetched in a world where 18 year old Mbappe was ACTUALLY bought for like 180m.
You can probably blame that transfer and Naymar's the most on the reason why transfer fees have become so inflated.
You're actually nuts man It's like you have a competition with yourself how many wild takes you can have and how many posters you can get to disagree with you.He's the third best player on his team, at best. Mbappé and Bellingham are clearly superior footballers. And then I'd definitely put Haaland, De Bruyne, Salah, Yamal, and Kane above him too.
Ballon d'Or argument, great one mate. Because the best footballer always wins that right? So why wasn't Messi winning every single one since 2007 until the early 2020s?
You're actually nuts man It's like you have a competition with yourself how many wild takes you can have and how many posters you can get to disagree with you.
Vinicius Junior is widely recognised as the best player in the world except maybe Mbappé. Bellingham, are you having a laugh? He is immensely talented and a very complete midfielder, but he has not done anything close to Vinicius yet. Add the fact that he goes missing in big games, so how could he possibly be the greater player?
33 year old past it de Bruyne isn't better than Vinicius. Try to be a little bit serious. Yamal, what can you say? One season behind him. He is unbelievable, but not Vinicius quite yet.
Not really, it is a case of watching the same the majority of football fans do and agree on, and not about having a different opinion than most every single time. I'm sure you're up for debating that Bednarek is a better CB than Saliba as well.Is it a case of you not willing to say some stuff until it's a widely acceptable opinion?
There's no way you can watch both players and claim Yamal is not better IMO. Your counter-argument against him, and other players too, is age, or CV? I'm talking about being a better footballer, a more valuable profile, their overall skillsets, etc.
I'm not denying Vinícius is one of the best players in the world, but he most certainly doesn't have an argument for being the best player.
And how exactly has Bellingham not accomplished "anything close to Vinícius"? Geez
He is as valuable asset as Vinicius for the tea playing against him.Why is Anthony missing from this list?
Vinicius is better actually but Yamal is only 17.Is it a case of you not willing to say some stuff until it's a widely acceptable opinion?
There's no way you can watch both players and claim Yamal is not better IMO. Your counter-argument against him, and other players too, is age, or CV? I'm talking about being a better footballer, a more valuable profile, their overall skillsets, etc.
I'm not denying Vinícius is one of the best players in the world, but he most certainly doesn't have an argument for being the best player.
And how exactly has Bellingham not accomplished "anything close to Vinícius"? Geez