That's just United. Real got over £100m for Ozil and Di Maria, both of whom were unwanted. Chelsea also get big money for their cast offs.
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That's just United. Real got over £100m for Ozil and Di Maria, both of whom were unwanted. Chelsea also get big money for their cast offs.
He's a pussy, on an off the field. Sterling showed more "courage" when he decided to leave Liverpool.
Mentally the burglary thing affected him quite a lot and when sportspeople are done mentally they are not much chop.
yea, none of this is Di Marias fault.It's Di Maria's fault, 100%. He played like crap last season and I was all for him staying for another season but he obviously wanted to leave. So feck him.
It stinks but nothing can be done except signing a new no.7 to replace him.
Weird he was on the sublist last night at fox sports
Have you prove of this or just your thoughts?
€63m is a good price. Now let's invest that money in someone.
Are people seriously blaming the club and LVG for this? Wow...
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Who are these world class players we are supposed to sign? I can't think of a single one who would be available this summer.
I'll give you a clue, He loves listening to Tom Jones whilst eating leek's with a daffodill tucked behind each of his massive jug like ears!
Wait, so first LVG would namedrop him, get him, play him and then a year later do all the black-PR shit just to sell him at a loss?
Yea, that makes perfect sense. Poor ADM. Bet it was Aloysius Paulus Maria "Louis" van Gaal himself who robbed his house and then he sent him a wrong plane ticket so he can later claim that he doesn't know where di Maria is.
Yea, that makes perfect sense. Poor ADM. Bet it was Aloysius Paulus Maria "Louis" van Gaal himself who robbed his house and then he sent him a wrong plane ticket so he can later claim that he doesn't know where di Maria is.
I think you have a point. If he wants to leave, then you'd look back to how LvG has always spoke about letting players go if they're not committed to the cause and how he wouldn't force unhappy players to stay. In which case, if ADM asked to leave, we wouldn't be so bitter about it, and LvG wouldn't address the AWOL questions in the manner that he has. Moreover, di Maria would have no excuse to skip pre-season, he's still employed by MUFC, after all.
I've always felt that we don't want him here and that we're trying to rid a player, who LvG believes doesn't fit into his plans. Maybe we are pushing him out. It would make sense, too. We have a club willing to pay a lot of money for a player deemed surplus to requirements, to which the player has responded by striking.
If he wants out, and we're willing to let him go, then why strike?
“I’m always like that. When you see my history – that’s part of my philosophy. A player is not just a man who kicks the ball from A to B. Also, his environment is influencing him."
“So, I shall always be open for that conversation but I know also the commercial interests of the club and we have to respect that. You cannot give a lot of money for a player and then next season put him out of your selection."
The difference is that Madrid sold them when they were actually quite good (were performing great). United has a history of not selling playerswhen they are good, but try desperately to make them play better (next season for Anderson). If we don't sell AdM now and he performs next season as bad as in the last one, then we would be lucky to get 20m for him next summer.
Just look at Nani's case. The right time to sell him was summer of 2012 when we would have gone 20m or so. But instead we didn't do that and in the next 2 seasons be barely played and now we sold him for peanuts. Similarily, if we ever plan to sell Young/Fellaini * then the right time is this summer after they had a good season and are in the up. Next season their value will decrease.
* Obviously, it depends if the manager thinks if those positions need to be upgraded or not.
So it seems he is on strike after all. I think we had a convo about not knowing where he is exactly.
Yup.
He's on strike but club should be nice and all towards him. Maybe we should beg him to come back or sthing.
Players are available if the right amount of money is offered.
Absolutely not but the signs earlier in the window were: Real come in with a derogatory bid for our player - we go after their captain. United at last seemed a player who could compete with a club of Real Madrid's stature. That looks like it will end badly with United's "you won't get De Gea unless we get Ramos" stance being all hot air.
Now, a player decides he wants to move to PSG who make a disgracefully low bid. United have huge financial resources. They need to use them to show any player who does this will not get what he wants. If that bid is true, I would happily sell him elsewhere for a loss but refuse to sell to PSG. United are a laughing stock in the transfer market paying a premium on every player and selling every player (old or young, long or short contracts) for absolute peanuts. That needs to change and Woodward needs to make a statement.
The truth is none of us know who is available.
44m is fair value for him I feel. We got stung by paying 60m but that was coming off a great season.
No doubt he will go and be excellent for PSG, but I'm just as excited for pereira to shine to be honest.
No doubt he will go and be excellent for PSG, but I'm just as excited for pereira to shine to be honest.
I blame the club for signing him in the first place. Its been rumoured since day 1 we were never his ideal destination but the club wanted a big name at at any cost
So it seems he is on strike after all. I think we had a convo about not knowing where he is exactly.
My posts, just as yours and all other posts, are based on speculation and not fact.
PSG can feck off if they can have him for a low fee. I'd rather we keep him and use him as a squad player. If he wants so badly to join them he shouldn't have signed a contract here.
Good let's get this wrapped up so we can reinvest the money back into the squad.
As for Di Maria, I saw him queuing up for a Big Mac in Broughton yesterday.
As for Di Maria, I saw him queuing up for a Big Mac in Broughton yesterday.
Yeah, sounds about right.
Feel sorry for Di Maria, he's nothing but human cattle. These bloody slave like footballers eh.
So it's now all LVG's fault and Di Maria has nothing to do with it?
Sometimes this place is a bit... RAWKish
Sometimes this place is a bit... RAWKish
He was a great signing the exact player we needed, he just didnt deliver or LVG didnt make it work. Either way Im sad to see him go. He's truly world class and showed it multiple seasons at Real and for Argentina, odd times at Utd but we couldnt get enough out of him.
Shame though when we are judging him when he played in a side plagued by injuries, with a new manager, and very inconsistent, not really fair to judge a player after a yr like that. Although we have with Falcao too (slightly different with a striker).
BUT one assumes that its all down to his own view that he wants to leave and if thats the case then wish him off cos we dont want players who dont want to be here......apart from De Gea.
Shame though when we are judging him when he played in a side plagued by injuries, with a new manager, and very inconsistent, not really fair to judge a player after a yr like that. Although we have with Falcao too (slightly different with a striker).
BUT one assumes that its all down to his own view that he wants to leave and if thats the case then wish him off cos we dont want players who dont want to be here......apart from De Gea.
Hurry up and feck him off out of here. You would think that after a down year most of the top players would be looking forwards to a new year so they can work hard and show the manager and the fans that they are good enough.
But not this guy, little bit of pressure and he goes missing until he can run off to a weaker league. Not the sort of player i want at this club.
But not this guy, little bit of pressure and he goes missing until he can run off to a weaker league. Not the sort of player i want at this club.
What players and what money? You offer Bayern €100m for Muller and they'll shoot it down. It's a no brainer. Offer €150m and it's the same. What good is the money to them when players of his quality aren't out there to replace him with? No point us having him and them having a bigger bank account; I can't say I ever remember Bayern working that way.
Who else? Bale? Are we going to throw €200m to get him? That's not the right money, that's just insanity.
Aside from Reus, I don't know who is actually available where we 1) wouldn't be a financial laughing stock to get him; 2)could get the owners to agree to such ludicrous fees; 3)is of the calibre to make a real different to the team.
16m for the loan for last season pretty much.
Not too surprised to see him leave. If you are a player of his quality you don't want to sit on the bench during your few peak years and if you think the manager and you have too differing ideas on how to play football then there isn't any other way than out.
He'll probably be great for PSG but it would be silly for us to not sell him considering Young kept him on the bench last season and I doubt he'll be more motivated to change his ways this time around.
He'll probably be great for PSG but it would be silly for us to not sell him considering Young kept him on the bench last season and I doubt he'll be more motivated to change his ways this time around.
Isn't he a record signing for the league, as well as our club? It's absolutely pathetic that it has come to this after a year and doesn't look good for us. What a contrast compared to the feeling when we signed him.
I disagree. Nani had an excellent season in Portugal and had some impressive performances in the Champions League. United got nothing for him because they gave him a bumper contract, decided they didn't want him and then had to get him off the wage bill at any cost. Everyone knew they wanted rid so knew he'd be available for peanuts. RVP appeared to have been paraded by Fenerbahce before the clubs even agreed a fee.
Look at Mata. He wasn't getting in the Chelsea team and they still found some mugs to pay almost £40m for him.
Some clubs are just better in the transfer market and (even with players who are clearly surplus to requirements) can get good value. United are just really really bad.
Ozil was £42m, which is the sort of amount being talked about for ADM. ADM himself was more... because he was being bought by a big club!
That's just not the case at all.
we'd be fools not to court a bit more interest in him either....
there's no way PSG are the only side interested surely at 45 million
if we are selling lets get an auction going
there's no way PSG are the only side interested surely at 45 million
if we are selling lets get an auction going
If the figures from Ballbag are accurate then there's not that much of a loss once you consider the add-ons we won't be having to pay Madrid.
Offer £50m for Kane see how quickly he becomes available. It would be overpaying, but he can be bought.
what other non PL club would pay 45m for him? Real won't take him back, Barca don't need him. Bayern Maybe? Even then that'd be a club record fee for them. Our options are very limited.
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