Ángel Di María | Transferred to PSG

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sizzling sausages said:
We did? I think if anything, last season proved we do need him, or at least a player similar to him. We limped to fourth playing slow, dull and predictable football for the most part.

I don't really mind if he does go, as it seems he wants to leave. Not much the club can do if that is the case. I wouldn't be happy replacing him with Pedro though. We need more players that create something from nothing, and Pedro isn't that.
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We need the Di Maria we saw in his last season at Madrid, not the Di Maria we saw least season at United. There's no guarantee he'll reach that level with us and I have no problems with us selling him on if van Gaal also sees it this way. As I said before I'd like to keep him but he's simply not a £50m winger so if PSG offer us the money, we should probably just take the loss and put that towards a winger like Griezmann or Reus who is younger and has a bit more consistency to his game on the wing.

And with regards to Pedro, I totally agree. £25m for a squad player (and that is what he'll be for us imo) is a bit much. We need more quality and someone more creative to usurp the position of Di Maria/Young.
 
Raoul said:
I'm guessing its more so a family decision than a football one. If his wife or whoever don't like it and are pestering him to move elsewhere, then he's likely to leave.
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I disagree. I think that's just the convenient angle his reps are spinning to get him out of here.

I don't think he likes the league, I also think he knows he is a square peg in Van Gaal's system. I just don't think he's got the fight in him to make it work here when he can move to the French league and play with a lot less restrictions.
 
shivab said:
firstly you cant assume that he does since he himself said he wants to stay. even if we forget that for a second and believe that its not van gaals decsion but di maria's, it wont be the first time our club would have stopped a world class player from leaving. its simple. we want to sell him. thats what baffles me.
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It baffles you that the club will take £50m for basically a flop and reinvest it in a player(s) the manager wants and thinks will have a larger contribution?

Even if you don't agree with it, not being able to fathom the decision is extremely closed minded.
 
He's bottled it. Van Gaal said he would be given the choice to leave and he's obviously made his decision.

He didn't like the physicality and that wasn't realistically going to change. For me he still had a pretty decent season but when you pay 59m for a player you expect them to hit form straight away.

Sad to see us lose a player of his quality after only a season but when you're offered upwards of 50m for him it becomes more of a gamble to hang on to him. We'll find an adequate replacement, hopefully one more suited to the rigours of the league.
 
Pexbo said:
I disagree. I think that's just the convenient angle his reps are spinning to get him out of here.

I don't think he likes the league, I also think he knows he is a square peg in Van Gaal's system. I just don't think he's got the fight in him to make it work here when he can move to the French league and play with a lot less restrictions.
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i dont think its his decision. i think its van gaals. why would he say he wants to fight for his place? van gaal doesnt see him as his kind of player.
 
If I were Di Maria I'd want the PSG move to happen. Paris vs Manchester. Easier league. Play in what is currently a stronger team. Chance to get his career back on track.

He looked so out of place here last season.
 
Pexbo said:
I disagree. I think that's just the convenient angle his reps are spinning to get him out of here.

I don't think he likes the league, I also think he knows he is a square peg in Van Gaal's system. I just don't think he's got the fight in him to make it work here when he can move to the French league and play with a lot less restrictions.
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Agree with this. If safety was his main concern he wouldn't be moving to Paris.
 
Falcao, RVP, Nani, and probably ADM gone, that's upwards of £800 k per week off the wage bill and £60 million + in fees, which would mean we currently have a net spend of about £15 million and have saved around £300 k on the wage bill.

Mad really because the starting 11 has been improved greatly already, and on a shoestring.
 
Pexbo said:
I disagree. I think that's just the convenient angle his reps are spinning to get him out of here.

I don't think he likes the league, I also think he knows he is a square peg in Van Gaal's system. I just don't think he's got the fight in him to make it work here when he can move to the French league and play with a lot less restrictions.
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This. He can't deal with the physicality.
 
He's obviously a bit weak mentally, as there's no way this would be happening if he was prepared to stay and prove his worth in England. He wants to tear it up in a nothing league instead? Fair enough, but a clear sign of lack of ambition. That said, I hope the club has done whatever it takes to try and change his mind, because he's quite clearly a class player when his mind is right.

If we don't recoup the fee though, it doesn't look very good... Given that we've no need to sell.
 
If he wants to leave then he can go, whatever reason it is. Maybe he was made to look good at Madrid with the players around him, whereas here he was the star, which is why it didn't work out. Either way, I was buzzing when he signed so it's sad to see him go. Let's buy Reus instead :devil:
 
Jed I. Knight said:
He's obviously a bit weak mentally, as there's no way this would be happening if he was prepared to stay and prove his worth in England. He wants to tear it up in a nothing league instead? Fair enough, but a clear sign of lack of ambition. That said, I hope the club has done whatever it takes to try and change his mind, because he's quite clearly a class player when his mind is right.

If we don't recoup the fee though, it doesn't look very good... Given that we've no need to sell.
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Don't forget PSG was his preferred destination last summer too, he's obviously prepared for early retirement.
 
I'm not too fazed by this to be honest. He was abysmal for us from October onwards and it didn't look like he was going to improve, I defended him a lot last season but towards the end even I had to concede that he was going nowhere with that sort of form. If we can recoup 80% of the fee from last year and cut our losses then it's probably good for us, by the looks of it we can probably get to 90%.
 
Mister_Stubbs said:
Replacing Angel di Maria, no matter how "bad" a season he had with Pedro is just ludicrous. I'm hoping Angel gets one more season to prove his worth otherwise we need to use the money on a Bale/Rues type player.
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Pedro's average performance on the wing for us should be better than Di Maria's best performance on the wing for us from last season. He's a worse player but probably a better winger.
 
Shocked at how easily people are taking this, having our two best players (even if AdM had a poor season) cherry-picked (which is how it looks to outsiders) in the same window by two CL rivals would reflect very badly on us. All the work unsettling Munich and Madrid's management would just look silly and make it seem as if we can't keep a hold of our best players.
 
I'm not sure where everyone is getting their information from. Everyone's an expert on what's happening with Di Maria despite there being no news from any reliable source from what I've seen, other than Van Gaal saying "it's a process", which is his new catchphrase answer for every single question he's asked, about anything.

If he does go it'll just go to show how dumb our transfer strategy was last year, despite everyone creaming themselves over it. Most of our signings had nothing to do with anything other than Woodward thinking he was cheating at Championship Manager. It was a waste of a year and we've spent most of this summer signing or trying to sign players we needed a year ago...although at least that's what we're actually doing this time around, and actually made a noticable effort to tie things up as much as possible in time for pre-season.

Also, I'm fine with him staying, but I can't say I'd exactly be devastated to lose him either. He has bags of talent but he makes Nani look consistent and intelligent. No way he's someone you can rely on to build a team around. One week he'll be winning the game on his own, the next he's catching the ball to take a throw in when it hasn't gone off the pitch, or clawing referees in the back, or repeatedly attempting to cross the ball into the box, from the centre of the pitch. We have far too many stupid players already to accomodate this level of idiocy. He is definitely not a £65m player. He was routinely outperformed by Ashley Young.
 
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Don't like this one bit, one season is no time to judge a player like Di Maria on.
 
Paul the Wolf said:
Strange that all those with the agenda against AdM and calling him a bench warmer want to replace him with Pedro - the ultimate bench-warmer:wenger:
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Well I wanted di Maria to stay but I've accepted that's unlikely. You also can't compare di Maria failing to displace Ashley f*cking Young to Pedro finding it difficult breaking into arguably the greatest front three in history. :lol:
 
I think ADM is a great player, but if his heart isn't in it then he needs to go, it's improbable he bounces back to his best if he's that unsettled off the pitch. thats just life, on the bright side he wasnt a huge part of our best run of games/performances (Spuds/Pool/City) last season anyway.
 
He's had a tough season and instead of staying and fighting for his place his first instinct has been to just give up and go and play in a far inferior league. He's clearly very talented and a better player than Young for example so you'd think if he put the effort in he'd be easily above the likes of him and Fellaini in the pecking order.

There were times last season, West Brom at home for example, where he looked like he didn't give a shit. Came on, jogged about a bit took potshots on goal whenever he was within 40 yards, just rubbish.

It'd be fitting if his last appearance for Utd was him going off early for what looked like a nothing injury. Pedro may not be as gifted but I'd bet a 100% committed Pedro is a better player for Utd than the half arsed Di Maria we've seen in a Utd shirt.
 
KiD MoYeS said:
Don't forget PSG was his preferred destination last summer too, he's obviously prepared for early retirement.
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True, I suppose it says something about his mindset. In retrospect, it should have flashed as a warning sign a year back, but as they say, hindsight is twenty-twenty.
 
AltiUn said:
Shocked at how easily people are taking this, having our two best players (even if AdM had a poor season) cherry-picked (which is how it looks to outsiders) in the same window by two CL rivals would reflect very badly on us. All the work unsettling Munich and Madrid's management would just look silly and make it seem as if we can't keep a hold of our best players.
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Di Maria is leaving on our terms. Cherry picked my arse.
 
BennyBlanco said:
I think ADM is a great player, but if his heart isn't in it then he needs to go, it's improbable he bounces back to his best if he's that unsettled off the pitch. thats just life, on the bright side he wasnt a huge part of our best run of games/performances (Spuds/Pool/City) last season anyway.
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Nor a huge part of when we had the bad run of games either

KiD MoYeS said:
Well that wasn't the discussion at all.
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The discussion is why people want AdM to leave based on conjecture and to be replaced by someone who is inferior
 
KiD MoYeS said:
Don't forget PSG was his preferred destination last summer too, he's obviously prepared for early retirement.
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Jed I. Knight said:
True, I suppose it says something about his mindset. In retrospect, it should have flashed as a warning sign a year back, but as they say, hindsight is twenty-twenty.
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Another load of rubbish, not true
 
It's been obvious all season he's not up for the fight. He surrendered his place to Young and made no effort to win it back. He clearly doesn't give a toss about the club and was a complete waste of space last season. Happy to get rid and bring in someone who actually wants to play for us.
 
Nanook said:
No, and so what if it does? If that's the case it will also look like we 'cherry picked' Juan Mata when Chelsea happily let him go.
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Mata wasn't considered their best player, Hazard was.
 
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