Ángel Di María | Transferred to PSG

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NL Max said:
RM their midfield was perfect for his strenghts, ours isn't.
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NL Max, I think this all I needed to read. I respect your posts and your opinions, and this says it all for me. He just doesn't fit. You posted a ton of reasons why we can't, or shouldn't, move him on. But it makes sense to, and it's just a question of Woody finding the right buyer now. He's not a winger, and certainly not the #10 we need. Cash out. In Woody we trust:-)
 
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Walters_19_MuFc said:
Di Maria for Cavani
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That would be terrible business on our part because the guy is a grade A bottler and we'd be letting go of a player that guarantees us 20 assists at the very least. Plus having two high profile strikers drags us back to the Rooney midfield/diamond formation shit when we just need to hit the ground running from day one. If Di Maria goes (understandable but I hope not) we need to sign a prolific inside forward and a decent back up striker to Rooney (which we needed anyway since we dumped RVP).

Unless we are sure we can get the right replacement we shouldn't even entertain the idea.
 
0161_UNITED said:
NL Max, I think this all I needed to read. I respect your posts and your opinions, and this says it all for me. He just doesn't fit. You posted a ton of reasons why we can't, or shouldn't, move him on. But it makes sense to, and it's just a question of Woody finding the right buyer now. He's not a winger, and certainly not the #10 we need. Cash in. In Woody we trust:-)
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The thing with ADM is that he is an assist machine and he will come up with a game changing piece of magic even when he is having a bad day. A player like that can be the difference between losing 1-0 against a parked bus and coming back from behind to win 3-1. What we need is for LVG to grant him the freedom to do his thing and if he is doing it from the wing then the possession turnovers won't be as costly or disruptive.
 
itso 7 said:
The thing with ADM is that he is an assist machine and he will come up with a game changing piece of magic even when he is having a bad day. A player like that can be the difference between losing 1-0 against a parked bus and coming back from behind to win 3-1. What we need is for LVG to grant him the freedom to do his thing and if he is doing it from the wing then the possession turnovers won't be as costly or disruptive.
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You are assuming that LvG didn't grant him freedom last season. Nobody on this forum can say with a straight face that this is a fact. For all we know, LvG granted him all the freedom on the pitch in the world, and what we received was what we all saw.
 
Would be really disappointed if we sold him this summer, I can't see who on the market we can replace his creativity with that is available.
 
Still quite calm about this. I'd rather him stay because I think he'll be better next season. But if he goes, I genuinely think it's only because he's asked to and his heart is not in it. If that equates to performances like the end of last season, then maybe it's better he goes.
 
If he is actually going, then Man Utd most likely got such a monster transfer lined up that we wouldn't even give a shit that he went.
 
itso 7 said:
That would be terrible business on our part because the guy is a grade A bottler and we'd be letting go of a player that guarantees us 20 assists at the very least. Plus having two high profile strikers drags us back to the Rooney midfield/diamond formation shit when we just need to hit the ground running from day one. If Di Maria goes (understandable but I hope not) we need to sign a prolific inside forward and a decent back up striker to Rooney (which we needed anyway since we dumped RVP).

Unless we are sure we can get the right replacement we shouldn't even entertain the idea.
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I agree.
 
0161_UNITED said:
You are assuming that LvG didn't grant him freedom last season. Nobody on this forum can say with a straight face that this is a fact. For all we know, LvG granted him all the freedom on the pitch in the world, and what we received was what we all saw.
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this is really a myth, wingers (like Robben) have always been granted a lot of roaming freedom under LvG, not restricted to the wing at all.
 
If we did sell him then you'd think we've got someone lined up because in terms of players that can electric, unless Adnan performs miracles we'll really be relying on Depay. That's not enough.
 
I think you'll find Depay has always been LVGs intended replacement.
 
If it's true then make no mistake about it those inside the club will have been prepared for this for weeks and months. With this summer's business so far, I've no reason to doubt we'll know what we're doing and get it right.
 
mancan92 said:
Some of the most ridiculous posting going on in this thread. Di Maria is our out right best attacking player. Yet people would rather isolate him, take a price cut and buy hugely inferior players?
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as asinine as it all sounds, just remember that LVG preferred ashley young to him last year. absolutely nobody in this galaxy or any other would have guessed that to be the case.
 
I dunno maybe I'm on the minority but I wouldn't be too adverse to selling him.

There is a good chance his mind will never be right if he isn't 100 % happy in England/United, I that's the case then we could we'll be served up with a lot of the same old confidence sapping performances we were from last season, and if that's the case it is likely to just get worse, or he'll be benched.

I do though wish we'd sell him to Bayern, they have players that are far more suited us, a straight swap for Muller, or Lewandowski + Robben for him, and maybe we give them a few quid too.
 
C'est Moi Cantona said:
I dunno maybe I'm on the minority but I wouldn't be too adverse to selling him.

There is a good chance his mind will never be right if he isn't 100 % happy in England/United, I that's the case then we could we'll be served up with a lot of the same old confidence sapping performances we were from last season, and if that's the case it is likely to just get worse, or he'll be benched.

I do though wish we'd sell him to Bayern, they have players that are far more suited us, a straight swap for Muller, or Lewandowski + Robben for him, and maybe we give them a few quid too.
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I'd rather not but am not against it if he absolutely wants to go.
 
It's all just French press being unbelievably desperate to see this transfer happen.

I'll only get worried when Sky Sources etc start to pick up on it, British press have been very cagey and speculative so far.
 
Would be very disappointing if we got rid after only 1 season. He's too talented not to be given more chances to get settled and used to playing in not only the PL, but also LVG's style of play. Also, despite the poor performances, he's one of the few players in the squad who is capable of something out of nothing. Hopefully these rumours are false.
 
Some people are a bit impatient, I think ADM will regain his form. Regarding those that say he does not fit into a possession based team, not every player must play it safe every time, it is good to have a couple of adventurous players despite the team favoring possession in general. He will just have to grow as a player and learn when it is the right time to take a risk and when he should keep the ball, when coming into a new system it is not that surprising that he was not more prolific in his first season.
 
C'est Moi Cantona said:
I dunno maybe I'm on the minority but I wouldn't be too adverse to selling him.

There is a good chance his mind will never be right if he isn't 100 % happy in England/United, I that's the case then we could we'll be served up with a lot of the same old confidence sapping performances we were from last season, and if that's the case it is likely to just get worse, or he'll be benched.

I do though wish we'd sell him to Bayern, they have players that are far more suited us, a straight swap for Muller, or Lewandowski + Robben for him, and maybe we give them a few quid too.
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The minority are small but vocal, Cantona. Join us, and feel your hatred. Hate leads to fear, fear leads to dark side. The dark side leads to selling one of the most expensive players on the planet for failing to perform.
 
We don't sell players after one season but if his heart is set on leaving and we are getting a good price then we should not stop him. He is a good player but he was never a 60 million player and we can definitely replace him
 
He said himself that he wanted to stay, why would he come out and say that if he wanted to leave? It would only make it more difficult for his departure as United would be perceived as pushing out their record signing after just one year :wenger: I really don't get this if it's true, and I don't believe it is.
 
Will be desperately disappointing to see him leave. First truly world class player in his prime we've had at Old Trafford for a while and we would never get to see the best of him following his settling in period.

Incidentally does Di Maria think Paris is any better for weather and safety than Manchester, or that they speak Spanish?
 
Not changing my opinion, I'd be very surprised to see him leave after a season. I'd be even more surprised that a club is willing to pay our demands for him, which surely won't be less than 85m Euro (so we break even). PSG have been daft in the past with their fee for David Luiz, I assume they would've learned by now and not spend their entire budget on 1 player when they also need to replace Thiago Motta and Rabiot. Not sure how they would afford his wages either unless Di Maria wants out that desperately that he's willing to take a paycut.

We're already having to bed in 4 new players which could increase to 8 players if we also need to replace Di Maria and de Gea on top of a striker and CB. I doubt van Gaal would want another transitional season like that.
 
endless_wheelies said:
Will be desperately disappointing to see him leave. First truly world class player in his prime we've had at Old Trafford for a while and we would never get to see the best of him following his settling in period.

Incidentally does Di Maria think Paris is any better for weather and safety than Manchester, or that they speak Spanish?
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Oh come on its a beautiful city with a tad more romance attached in the mindset of many. Also closer to Spain and other european cities his missus might want to shop in :)
 
Rezyuz said:
If he is actually going, then Man Utd most likely got such a monster transfer lined up that we wouldn't even give a shit that he went.
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I agree, if this is going to happen.. you can guarantee, we will be looking to bring in a big money replacement.
 
I hope this is about as credible and persistent as the Gaitan rumours.
 
0161_UNITED said:
The minority are small but vocal, Cantona. Join us, and feel your hatred. Hate leads to fear, fear leads to dark side. The dark side leads to selling one of the most expensive players on the planet for failing to perform.
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Wish I understood this.
 
He is not leaving. Nor should he.

This has all come about because Blanc said he liked him a couple of days ago.

“Yes. We have our priorities,” he said.

“But to strengthen such a team you must target guys who are at big clubs and who are not easy to prise away. That’s hardest for PSG.

“Di Maria, he’s good. We have more freedom, but it remains a difficult project for us because we’re not alone in wanting him.

“When you see the financial power of the English clubs, they are attacking everyone. Competition is very, very tough.

“Don’t forget, Manchester United paid a fortune to sign him.

“For us to work effectively, we have to think of other solutions. We must be proactive.”
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So according to French media, PSG have come up with the money for a transfer and Di Maria's wages on a five year deal in the space of two days.
 
RedorDead21 said:
Oh come on its a beautiful city with a tad more romance attached in the mindset of many. Also closer to Spain and other european cities his missus might want to shop in :)
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Have you ever been to Paris? Because I've lived there, 90% of it is horrible, just obnoxious English-speakers, McDonalds and rain.

Being close to Spain is irrelevant seeming as he is not actually Spanish, and the distance from other European cities is much more heavily influenced by where his house will be in relation to the airport than its whereabouts on the world map.
 
ADM was very inconsistent player last season. But that's also as a result of his team mates. In Real he used to play with 'faster' players. They would make runs, create spaces and played direct attacking football. In United it was all too static. He tried to do all by himself at times, and the result was obvious.

I heard people mentioned the following names - Carrick, Schweinsteiger, Herrera, Schneiderlin, Fellaini, Mata and Blind. *None* of them can run past a player like he does, nor can anyone dribble like him. He will never be as consistent as them, but none of them can do what he does.

Every top team needs to have creative players, players who can beat a defender (say Hazard, Neymar etc.,). None of the above players are of this type. I don't see how United can beat top teams consistently without a real explosive player; ideally you would want more than 1 such player in the team.

Carrick, Schweinsteiger, Herrera, Schneiderlin, Fellaini, Mata and Blind - all too 'safe' players for me, too predictable and regimented.
 
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