Álvaro Morata | Chelsea player

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cheeky_backheel said:
Giroud seriously? This kid has scored more goals than Benzema this season, and behind only CR, all while mostly coming off the bench and a few starts. He has scored in big games and against tough opposition, including Madrid and Bayern. He has a rounded game and can finish both on the ground and in the air. Defensively, he will work his behind off. He is not going to be WPOTY but any defence has to give him due respect.
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Yeah. Minute for minute he's probably their top scorer. Talking about big game goals he's also scored in a Champions League final. I think he'd make an excellent player in England and would much rather he play for us than anybody else.
 
Inter Yer Nan said:
Absolutely no question for me factoring in two things; 1- He'd be half the fee 2- He'd link up better with the players we have now and for sure he'd be a much better partner for Griezmann (if he joins).
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He's actually got a brain.
 
Raoul said:
30m sounds about right.
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That's what sounds right to me too but Marca have been dishing out the 70m price tag since last Summer and in Conte/Juve there will be interest driving it up.

Real paid up 25M for him to return last Summer so I can't see it being any less than 50m all in all.

Not interested at that point.
 
antohan said:
That's what sounds right to me too but Marca have been dishing out the 70m price tag since last Summer and in Conte/Juve there will be interest driving it up.

Real paid up 25M for him to return last Summer so I can't see it being any less than 50m all in all.

Not interested at that point.
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They paid 30m euros, so I reckon it'll take 50m euros (£42m).
 
United Pro said:
They paid 30m euros, so I reckon it'll take 50m euros (£42m).
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Aye, my point.

I was talking euros all along as well. Seems I was wrong on the 25M (euros and pounds get mixed up regularly).

I don't think he is what we need. I'd be happy to have him as part of a set of strikers, but we need someone replacing Ibra's level of impact.
 
antohan said:
Aye, my point.

I was talking euros all along as well. Seems I was wrong on the 25M (euros and pounds get mixed up regularly).

I don't think he is what we need. I'd be happy to have him as part of a set of strikers, but we need someone replacing Ibra's level of impact.
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I'd take him for a decent price as we need a strong, physical forward for squad depth. But I'd also prefer we target someone of a higher calibre. Unfortunately, there are very few, if any, available.
 
ovoxo said:
Morata and Varane for De Gea would be a good deal. Maybe Morata £30 and Varane at £40m? £70m for the best keeper in the world, at the age he is at, isn't too far fetched. Provided we bring in Griezmann, a CM and obviously a De Gea replacement.

I like Morata to be honest, he'd be a good option to rotate with Rashford. We'll have two main strikers who have different skill sets and be used for different games.
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Good deal? It would be an absolute steal. I'd bite their hand off for it.

Also everyone comparing Morata to Welbeck has a shaky grip on reality. Not only is there a massive gap in their scoring rates over the last 4 seasons, but they're also completely different types of players.
 
Aza Boy said:
Just break the bank for ISCO...we dont need Griezman if we have that little man...He is the successor of Iniesta, with additional finishing ability...ISCO for 40 million, I'll take in the heartbeat...Imagine he is giving a through pass to Martial and Rashford, OMG, slurppppp...
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I've been saying that on the forum for weeks now. Isco is someone who would be our Silva and since De Gea is pretty much Madrid bound. I wouldn't mind getting Morata and Isco in the deal. We can buy Greizmann and play him up top and have him rotate with Rashford/ Morata. Isco could play in the hole behind Griezmann/ Morata. He's been phenomenal with his close control this season whenever given the opportunity. We've lacked creativity and Isco is that missing piece to break teams down with his through passes.

With Zlatan and Rooney gone, Morata, Griezmann and Isco would be good enough reinforcements
 
Steven7290 said:
In term of goals he's better. There may or may not be some truth in rumours but personally I think they would do very well to get €50m for him.
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Not sure what you mean by "In term of goals". Do you mean he is more clinical, higher goal rate per mins, more rounded finisher or what? The only area I would consider Lacazette better would be long range shooting, otherwise, Morata is the better striker imo.

While stats dont always tell the whole story, they still provide some insight (but shouldnt be abused), and below is a comparison of Lacazette and Morata (per 90min) keeping in mind that Laczaette is a starter while Morata is a sub
http://www.squawka.com/comparison-m...uracy/shots_inside_area/shots_outside_area#90

From the stats, there really is no evidence to suggest that Lacazette is clearly better than Morata in any goal related area.
 
beingshe7don said:
I've been saying that on the forum for weeks now. Isco is someone who would be our Silva and since De Gea is pretty much Madrid bound. I wouldn't mind getting Morata and Isco in the deal. We can buy Greizmann and play him up top and have him rotate with Rashford/ Morata. Isco could play in the hole behind Griezmann/ Morata. He's been phenomenal with his close control this season whenever given the opportunity. We've lacked creativity and Isco is that missing piece to break teams down with his through passes.

With Zlatan and Rooney gone, Morata, Griezmann and Isco would be good enough reinforcements
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Let's all have a disco with Morata, Griezmann and Isco la la la la
 
I still think someone like Lacazette or even Lukaku over him because we really have not seen Morata be the "man" up front. The player defenders are keying up on for 90 minutes. Being the first name on the opposing side's scouting report. There is a big difference between that and coming on late against tired defenders.
 
Steven7290 said:
n term of goals he's better. There may or may not be some truth in rumours but personally I think they would do very well to get €50m for him.
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One thing is that Lacazette has 10 penalty goals in Ligue 1. So from open play it's:
Lacazette 21 goals (one every 149 min.)
Morata 18 goals (one every 94 min.)

Not saying Morata is necessarily a better finisher, let alone player; I don't really know Lacazette and there are special circumstances about Morata's season. But in terms of pure statistics, the Spaniard is ahead.
Keeps It tidy said:
I still think someone like Lacazette or even Lukaku over him because we really have not seen Morata be the "man" up front. The player defenders are keying up on for 90 minutes. Being the first name on the opposing side's scouting report. There is a big difference between that and coming on late against tired defenders.
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Yeah, I think that's the big question. He started several games this season, but it's different over the course of a whole campaign. At Juve he still was a pretty young player.
 
beingshe7don said:
I've been saying that on the forum for weeks now. Isco is someone who would be our Silva and since De Gea is pretty much Madrid bound. I wouldn't mind getting Morata and Isco in the deal. We can buy Greizmann and play him up top and have him rotate with Rashford/ Morata. Isco could play in the hole behind Griezmann/ Morata. He's been phenomenal with his close control this season whenever given the opportunity. We've lacked creativity and Isco is that missing piece to break teams down with his through passes.

With Zlatan and Rooney gone, Morata, Griezmann and Isco would be good enough reinforcements
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Completely agree. Isco and Pogba in the same lineup will create chance after chance for our strikers. We just need someone clinical up top and we are good to go.
 
Mr Smith said:
Good deal? It would be an absolute steal. I'd bite their hand off for it.

Also everyone comparing Morata to Welbeck has a shaky grip on reality. Not only is there a massive gap in their scoring rates over the last 4 seasons, but they're also completely different types of players.
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Mourinho said he's friends with Perez right? Well he ought to get a friends deal out of this.
 
Morata would be very underwhelming, though if we also signed a top class attacker like Griezmann to play in behind him then that would be fine imo.

We're not going to sign Griezmann and a top class striker so we might have to settle for a Morata/Belotti. We need a physical presence upfront and goal scoring attacking midfielder.
 
cheeky_backheel said:
Not sure what you mean by "In term of goals". Do you mean he is more clinical, higher goal rate per mins, more rounded finisher or what? The only area I would consider Lacazette better would be long range shooting, otherwise, Morata is the better striker imo.
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I meant simply the number of goals per season, thus answering your question about a more clinical and cheaper alternative. Given that I have watched Lacazette a grand total of about 5 times (Morata a lot more) I have absolutely no idea what type of striker he is or if he is actually better than Morata. I'm just stating the fact that Lacazette is clearly the better goalscorer: the goal tally for the last 5 seasons are 31-23-31-22-4 for Lacazette and 18-12-15-9-2 for Morata.

Alvaro Morata is the type of striker I really like, similar to Fernando Llorente, however scores nowhere near enough goals a season.
 
Steven7290 said:
I meant simply the number of goals per season, thus answering your question about a more clinical and cheaper alternative. Given that I have watched Lacazette a grand total of about 5 times (Morata a lot more) I have absolutely no idea what type of striker he is or if he is actually better than Morata. I'm just stating the fact that Lacazette is clearly the better goalscorer: the goal tally for the last 5 seasons are 31-23-31-22-4 for Lacazette and 18-12-15-9-2 for Morata.

Alvaro Morata is the type of striker I really like, similar to Fernando Llorente, however scores nowhere near enough goals a season.
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and did you consider how many games Lacazette started vs Morata in those seasons?
 
He's the Spanish Welbeck.

Doesn't score enough goals and he will bring that "tall hold up play, cross it into the target man" style that some people complain Zlatan brings. Except Ibra is on another level and scores way more.

Lukaku is a much much better option and should be our #1 target this summer. Top scorer in the league and only 23. If he was English, we would be drooling over him.
 
Jaybomb said:
He's the Spanish Welbeck.

Doesn't score enough goals and he will bring that "tall hold up play, cross it into the target man" style that some people complain Zlatan brings.

Lukaku is a much much better option and should be our #1 target this summer. Top scorer in the league and only 23. If he was English, we would be drooling over him.
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He is nothing like Welbeck ffs.

You want Lukaku, while most don't. Get over it.
 
An Irish Red said:
He doesn't have the close control that a striker for a big club needs. He'd be a terrible signing.
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You can't honestly say he would be a terrible signing? I mean for the last couple of years he's been one of the most prolific strikers in the league. Whilst playing for Everton.

He's out scored our strikers.

He's a brilliant striker and footballer and premier league proven. Who would you prefer us to sign? Messi? Ronaldo?

I'd prefer Griezmann too (not sure if it's realistic), but Lukaku certainly wouldn't be a terrible signing.

Only negative would be the hinderance to Rashord/Martials development. They're both special players and we're in a sort of limbo where they're just about ready to step up, but we need results now.

I'm leaving my faith in Mourinho, if he signs a striker so be it. If he sticks what we've got then I trust him that our plays can step up. I think he's an expert on these decisions.
 
(I thought this was the Griezmann vs Lukaku thread, sorry for the off topic reply)
 
Jake said:
You can't honestly say he would be a terrible signing? I mean for the last couple of years he's been one of the most prolific strikers in the league. Whilst playing for Everton.

He's out scored our strikers.

He's a brilliant striker and footballer and premier league proven. Who would you prefer us to sign? Messi? Ronaldo?
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He's scored 25 goals this season, which is impressive and all but it's still only a couple of goals more than Benteke's best season at Villa and he didn't exactly shine at Liverpool.

I don't think players like him shine at clubs who have to face packed defences most weeks. It emphasises their technical deficiencies.
 
If Mourinho can pull Modric out of the De gea deal, we would have our midfield figured out for the next 3-4 years. Morata is a talented striker and if we could get him, it would solve out ST issues. He's no slouch. He's been decent at Juve and at Madrid. The only issue is that Real have CR7 and Benzema ahead of him.
 
beingshe7don said:
If Mourinho can pull Modric out of the De gea deal, we would have our midfield figured out for the next 3-4 years. Morata is a talented striker and if we could get him, it would solve out ST issues. He's no slouch. He's been decent at Juve and at Madrid. The only issue is that Real have CR7 and Benzema ahead of him.
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Modrić will be 32 in September. No thanks. Not that he isn't a terrific player. I was against signing Schweinsteiger at the time, and I'd be against this.

We should be looking at the younger generation of midfielders (Thiago, Verratti, Weigl, Fabinho, Saúl, etc.)
 
Morata does bring mobility with physical presence. But if he's that good then surely Madrid would want to keep him as Benzema's replacement?
 
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