The club already sold him and I doubt they see him as more than a stop gap, if that. And the price is not peanuts.
Álvaro Carreras
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Why even add a buy back clause in the first place when selling him then?
On form and results, Alvaro is currently more valuable than any United player bar Amad. And he plays the position we have zero good options for. And we can get him for a fraction of what he and alternatives cost
Why is he not here already?
Letting him go for peanuts and not playing Amad were two stupidest things Erik did, and they probably contributed to his sacking
Why is he not here already?
Letting him go for peanuts and not playing Amad were two stupidest things Erik did, and they probably contributed to his sacking
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I know he is cheap and he is home grown. But is he actually any good? Can he play prem football and make an impact. Otherwise its still 15m wasted.
Do you only follow premiership, mate? He has played every single game at Benfica, including in Champions League and has been brilliant. He is playing head and shoulders higher level than Dorgu is at relegation-bound Lecce
He is closely monitored by Real, Barca, and Bayern and they will likely make significant bids for him in the Summer, if we pass on him.
What are we waiting for?
Dorgu.
I'm unsure about him but this does give me more confidence. He is playing at a higher level and in Europe already!
How do you know he's being closely monitored by them?
He keeps tripping over them
He may be a decent LB or even a decent LCB in a slower league but he simply does not have the intensity to play as a LWB in the Premier League.
If we buy him I would bet that after a few games Dalot or Maz would be back in that position.
If we buy him I would bet that after a few games Dalot or Maz would be back in that position.
Maybe but Dalot came from the same league.
Carreras lacks a bit defensively but he is pretty good going forward, he might work on Amorim’s tactic with the 3 center backs.
Also he is tall which helps in corners.
But yes he might struggle a bit physically on premier league with fast strong players.
Not going to pretend to have seen loads of him, but from what I have seen I think it’d be very smart. Can play LWB and probably LCB, which would be a massive help as when Martinez doesn’t play the lack of a left footer there is a killer.
You don't have to be a prick, that's a choice.
Same way anybody knows anything about transfers before they happen - by listening to reputable sources who have been usually correct in the past
Who hurt you? Why are so bitter, for no reason, to a stranger?
Oh then easily sourecable
I think he is quite similar in style to Blind and I was a big fan of his but he was also not blessed with decent pace and while he had a good club and international career his lack of pace was an issue in England.
I think waiting for someone else to buy him and getting the sell on percentage is a better option than bringing him back.
His weakness is he a is a bit slow and he’d be surrounded by players who also have the same issue. We are one of the slowest, least athletic teams in the league and that’s something that needs to be addressed.
His weakness is he a is a bit slow and he’d be surrounded by players who also have the same issue. We are one of the slowest, least athletic teams in the league and that’s something that needs to be addressed.
I don’t think Carreras is as slow as Blind.
He is tall and slim so he looks slower than he actually is.
Of course he is far from a Nuno Mendes or Alphonso Davies.
I think someone already posted some stats about his speed here.
He's good, and in other circumstances or other teams I'd be happy giving him a chance.
But the context for us is that we have a very unathletic team, and we're looking to sign a player for a position in Amorim's system where athleticism is extremely important.
Which means the ideal profile we're looking for is a player for whom athleticism is a strong point. And Alvaro simply isn't that player.
I just checked Uefa stats and assuming they are right, yes Carreras is faster than doku.I seen stats that had him faster than Doku on here
Have to keep in mind that Doku is 1.73m and Carreras is 1.86m.
By Uefa stats, Raphinha is faster than Carreras, so that explains a bit that last minute goal.
Unless he's been smoking nitro since he left the youth teams, how on earth is Alvaro faster than Doku?
A lack of pace was always his main flaw.
A lack of pace was always his main flaw.
Yep it’s weird, but it’s on Uefas stats, just checked it.
Might be a mistake but don’t they have that undershirt thing to track players?
A reminder that sprint stats are notoriously unreliable. I remember one year Phil Jagielka was clocked as the fastest player in the Premier League.
Probably left it on when driving home
I don’t feel like we need a big lumbering wingback. I think we can all agree to hope it’s just hot air.
Well I have to assume they are wrong.
I have had a look at highlights of Alvaro's performance vs Barca and while it looks like he had a good game he looked ponderous.
And by the way, not all tall slender players look slow when they run
I have no idea how good he is at defending honestly, what I do know is that he's always been a lovely player on the ball.
This formation constantly creates loads of space for Dalot and it's pretty exciting imagining that being someone like this.
I wouldn't say Dorgu looks to have that same sort of feel for the ball.
This formation constantly creates loads of space for Dalot and it's pretty exciting imagining that being someone like this.
I wouldn't say Dorgu looks to have that same sort of feel for the ball.
If fast was so important we would be keeping rashers. Sometimes game IQ and technique is more important than speed because It puts you in position than you might influence the game ie reading the game. Marcus had or has speed,teddy Sheringham had bearly Any speed,but had a brain and played to near on 40. Alvaro looks like a better footballer than dorgu. Not as fast,but he might not need as much speed as dorgu because his touch is better. Dorgus touch isn't great and he's to accelerate into tackles to keep the ball. Think we've enough raw players. Need more technical footballers. But who knows dorgu could be unreal if bought. Like zirkzee,hojlund,Veron and darmian. Seria A hasn't done us wrong before.
I thought he was a left back, not a wing back?
If we are persisting with a 343 then we need a specialist left wing back.
If we are persisting with a 343 then we need a specialist left wing back.
For the youth teams it was often said that he possessed good technical qualities but was lacking athletically. And the issue for me is that I really feel like we lack some athleticism in our team, with wing back being a particularly demanding role. For that reason I could see why, in my limited knowledge of Dorgu, he seems to be preferred. Just watching the clips of him you can see he’s probably better equipped to the role even if he doesn’t have the technical ability (I don’t know if he does or not). But when players like Frimpong and Dumfries excel in this role, you can see how physical attributes are just as important as technical. I suppose it depends on what you prefer, but it’s rare to find a player that is of a high level in both.
He is a left back. And is far from being the answer. Isn't pacey, isn't physical, isn't good on 1v1. Is playing in a team with a lot o ball possession, where he can cross a lot. It's suits him, but he won't make it in the EPL.
The sell on fee
If he moves elsewhere for 30/40M…suspect we’ll be due a payment
Well Moyes must be onto something then when he asked Rio to study Jagielka
I always thought top speed stats lacked in relevance rather than reliability.
If United scouts were at the Benfica game yesterday I’m sure they are far from impressed.
He really fecked up in Casa Pia second goal and lost his man do to lack of physicality.
He really fecked up in Casa Pia second goal and lost his man do to lack of physicality.
Manchester United scout to be present today at Benfica's game against Casa Pia to observe Álvaro Carreras. Red Devils have a 20M€ buy back clause:
(Tier 3, according to Reddit).
https://www.record.pt/futebol/futeb...ra-ver-alvaro-carreras-no-jogo-com-o-casa-pia
(Tier 3, according to Reddit).
https://www.record.pt/futebol/futeb...ra-ver-alvaro-carreras-no-jogo-com-o-casa-pia
Is Dorgu any good?