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West Ham United 2:0 Manchester United

London Stadium

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Sat, 23 December 2023 @ 12:30pm GMT
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    I don’t think anyone in their right mind would blame Mainoo. The problems have been there the entire game and that’s on the manager. So fecking impotent in attack.
    I wasn’t referring to those in their right minds.
     
    It's not cherry picking. It's not like we are only a few weeks into this season.

    We've lost more games than we won nearly half way through the season.

    Most losses ath this stage since something like the 1930s I think TNT said.

    So it's not like our other managers we sacked where doing this....

    Ignoring it or pretending it's cherry picking to create a narrative or something doesn't make sense.

    Losing more games than you win half way through the season is unbelievably bad. None of our other managers would have been tolerated doing that is all.

    That's all fine but that's not what you said was my point.
     
    Liverpool - Arsenal is on. Arsenal just scored VAR trying to overturn it for Liverpool. We aren't playing the same sport as these two teams.
     
    Change the word from PERSONNEL to TACTICAL and everything I said remains the same. We failed to get the fundamentals right in those two moments.
    but that's what I said: they made change, ETH didn't react, maybe did even realise
     
    An odd take away from this game. Onana made some good saves today, a reasonable performance and did well to save the initial shot from Bowen. He was unfortunate it’s deflected back of Bowen into the net. Not at fault for their second either
    the "good" saves were nothing special - he was weak and cowardly with the first, he didn't do well to stop it at all. Drivel. Just dive at the guys feet and it's goal avoided
     
    I understand that, but I'm saying, we didn't lose because ten Hag didn't react to the tactical change, we lost because of two silly errors.
    I think all contributed but I mainly agree with you. I just recall Jose always reacting when an opposition manager made changes. I think ETH could have done too - I just don't think he's flexible enough. There's no doubt the mistakes were to blame for the goals... but we were in control until Moyes tweaked things
     
    An odd take away from this game. Onana made some good saves today, a reasonable performance and did well to save the initial shot from Bowen. He was unfortunate it’s deflected back of Bowen into the net. Not at fault for their second either
    Anyone can stop a shot directly at them, no movement is required.
    He lacks bravery and and athleticism.
    The first goal he needs to go to the players feet and smother the ball, the second again is across his body, he always leaves a player with that option, he needs to make himself big and narrow the angle.
     
    Amrabat has been one of our better players recently so that makes no sense. McTominay plays like garbage nearly every game yet he’s there.

    Yes he does, but Amrabat's performance against Liverpool was even worse than anything we've seen from McTominay this season. He's plainly downright overmatched on this level.
     
    Another game another zero goals scored.

    At this rate I don't think we'll even better LVG's second season and the football that season was as boring as feck
     
    Yes he does, but Amrabat's performance against Liverpool was even worse than anything we've seen from McTominay this season. He's plainly downright overmatched on this level.
    Don’t agree he was effective agaisnt Liverpool and contributed to our clean sheet
     
    Don’t agree he was effective agaisnt Liverpool and contributed to our clean sheet

    "Effective"? He was chasing around like a winded chicken, constantly half a second behind, misplacing passes, and generally being a liability. Like a shit version of Fred. I'd go so far as to say that was the worst performance by a United midfielder this season.
     
    "Effective"? He was chasing around like a winded chicken, constantly half a second behind, misplacing passes, and generally being a liability. Like a shit version of Fred. I'd go so far as to say that was the worst performance by a United midfielder this season.
    We will have to agree to disagree I think he played pretty well and I’d say was one of our better players.
     
    I struggle to recall many Manchester United teams (and I've seen them going them back to Big Ron and Bryan Robson and co) coming to our place and being so defensive.

    Shaw is a very good player, but the others who started are really unremarkable.

    >£150m for Hojlund and Antony is crazy.
     
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4.3 Total Average Rating

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Score Predictions

93,55,35
  • Man Utd win
  • West Ham win
  • Draw

Detailed Results

  • 28% West Ham 1:2 Man Utd
  • 12% West Ham 2:0 Man Utd
  • 12% West Ham 1:1 Man Utd
  • 9% West Ham 0:2 Man Utd
  • 8% West Ham 2:1 Man Utd
  • 6% West Ham 1:3 Man Utd
  • 5% West Ham 1:0 Man Utd
  • 4% West Ham 2:2 Man Utd
  • 4% West Ham 0:1 Man Utd
  • 3% West Ham 0:0 Man Utd
  • 3% West Ham 3:1 Man Utd
  • 3% West Ham 0:3 Man Utd
  • 2% West Ham 3:0 Man Utd
  • 1% West Ham 1:4 Man Utd
  • 1% West Ham 4:0 Man Utd
  • 1% West Ham 9:0 Man Utd
  • 1% West Ham 2:3 Man Utd
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Match Stats

  1. West Ham
  2. Man Utd
Possession
35% 65%
Shots
12 11
Shots on Target
5 3
Corners
4 4
Fouls
13 15

Referee

Simon Hooper