sillwuka
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Pre match nerves have kicked in, i haven't settled down yet.
Hope we can start off strong tonight, focus!
Hope we can start off strong tonight, focus!
I'm with you here.
Woke up at 6am absolutely buzzing, am just coasting through work constantly looking at the clock...
Nerves kicking in already!
Who would you start on the right wing?
There was a stat posted yesterday that showed Rashford is more productive and has better numbers (and by a fair bit) when he's been played on the right this season. I had to take a double take of it because certainly doesn't seem like that, but apparently so.
Edinson Cavani deserves to start the Europa League Final, but he shouldn't - Kwest Thoughts (substack.com)Where were the stats from? Whoscored has his rating slightly lower and his goal contributions are slightly lower as well when he's on the right.
I've been saying this for a while though. He doesn't look as dangerous or as comfortable and can't go by a player as easily when he's on the right but his output doesn't drop that much. He still scores and assists quite regularly.
Edinson Cavani deserves to start the Europa League Final, but he shouldn't - Kwest Thoughts (substack.com)
Scroll down a little bit. Don't know how accurate those stats are, because like yourself I've always felt like his game drops significantly when he's on the right.
I see an easy win. 3-0.
I was thinking 4-0?
I'd take 3-0 though.
No chance will an Emery side be that open in a final.I was thinking 4-0?
I'd take 3-0 though.
Just don't play Rashford on the right.
There was a stat posted yesterday that showed Rashford is more productive and has better numbers (and by a fair bit) when he's been played on the right this season. I had to take a double take of it because certainly doesn't seem like that, but apparently so.
Did the hat trick against Leipzig count as him playing on the right?I had the same reaction when I saw those stats because they are counter-intuitive at first glance.
Transfermarkt have Rashford's contributions from RW as 6 goals and 2 assists in 9 games which is a better rate than his G/A ratios at LW or CF. It’s also the exact same stat @UNITED ACADEMY used in a different thread to tell me ‘there’s no difference’ between Rashford on the right or the left.
But the main thing I took from those numbers were that it just illustrates the issue with exclusively using stats as the basis for a footballing viewpoint, rather than looking at what’s happening on the pitch.
I think it’s abundantly clear at this point that Rashford, and the team, are much more comfortable and cohesive in terms of performance with him on the left. We look far better at present with Greenwood on the right IMO and the fact that Rashford has a higher G/A per 90 on the right doesn’t change that fact, it just clouds it.
(Not saying any of that to criticise you, rather just making a point about the issue with looking at stats in isolation)
facing a team that have won just two of their last 5 in all competitions also.....Everyone in here is way too confident given our recent form. The team that plays tonight got spanked by Liverpool and failed to beat a relegated Fulham at Old Trafford with fans. We're not in particularly good form going into this.
No I completely agree.I had the same reaction when I saw those stats because they are counter-intuitive at first glance.
Transfermarkt have Rashford's contributions from RW as 6 goals and 2 assists in 9 games which is a better rate than his G/A ratios at LW or CF. It’s also the exact same stat @UNITED ACADEMY used in a different thread to tell me ‘there’s no difference’ between Rashford on the right or the left.
But the main thing I took from those numbers were that it just illustrates the issue with exclusively using stats as the basis for a footballing viewpoint, rather than looking at what’s happening on the pitch.
I think it’s abundantly clear at this point that Rashford, and the team, are much more comfortable and cohesive in terms of performance with him on the left. We look far better at present with Greenwood on the right IMO and the fact that Rashford has a higher G/A per 90 on the right doesn’t change that fact, it just clouds it.
(Not saying any of that to criticise you, rather just making a point about the issue with looking at stats in isolation)
Did the hat trick against Leipzig count as him playing on the right?
Yeah, which is the exact issue with those stats. That wasn’t Rashford playing on the RW imo.
He is going to start!Are we thinking OGS is playing mind games with Maguire ? He seems to be on and off crutches and training..
Under 6 hours now...7 hours, no work or kids to occupy me today. I'm not coping well
Didn't he just run straight through the middle for all of those goals?
We just need to score a goal first. And they will have to open upNo chance will an Emery side be that open in a final.
Suffered a pang this morning when I opened the United app, got the message "Welcome back. It's match day" and realised that's the last time in a good while.
Are we thinking OGS is playing mind games with Maguire ? He seems to be on and off crutches and training..
Having the Euros injected straight into our veins will help cure the withdrawal.
Two of them were basically from a CF position while one was a run through the middle of the defence starting in the right-hand channel. That would be the closest goal you could attribute to a RW position but even that would be pushing it.
Bottom line is stats are a useful tool when used correctly but can be wildly misleading when framed without the proper context imo.
With that in mind, this is the team I’d hope to see tonight;
De Gea
AWB Lindelof Tuanzebe Shaw
McTominay Fred
Greenwood Bruno Pogba
Cavani
with Rashford off the bench into the LW slot and Pogba taking one of the CM spots if we need a goal. Hopefully we won’t!
This proves the agenda trying to twist everything to suit the argument. Rashford on the left also runs through the middle starting in the left channel. If he can do it the same way on the right then it shouldn’t be an issue. If only people understand how he operates on wide, you will understand there is not much difference in how Rashford scored those two goals from CF vs RB Leipzig with his other goals when he scored from right or left. Drift inside from wide running behind defenders.
It’s an agenda to think Rashford plays better on the left than the right?
Sorry for your loss pal. Hopefully he'll be looking down and watching the lads with pride later.Hoping United can do me a huge favour tonight. Dad succumbed to cancer on Sunday morning, and dad would have been elated for Ole to get some silverware this season!
Clement Turpin